jules Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Ok, dont shoot me, but im not very familiar with joy division. where do i start? help me understand. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Literally millions of comp albums. One of them I'd suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 no, don't listen to any "compilation" albums. listen to the proper albums. Unknown Pleasures Closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 With 2 albums in their discography, I would really feel confused in your situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Start with New Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Echo Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Unknown Pleasures and the Substance comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Substance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 compilations are not a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Again I would say Unknown Pleasures and Substance. Simple as that really! Not a fan of Closer myself. Pretty miserable set of tunes I think but you should still have a listen (perhaps I should have another go myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Again I would say Unknown Pleasures and Substance. Simple as that really! Not a fan of Closer myself. Pretty miserable set of tunes I think but you should still have a listen (perhaps I should have another go myself) quite obviously because of the situation Ian Curtis was in at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Again I would say Unknown Pleasures and Substance. Simple as that really! Not a fan of Closer myself. Pretty miserable set of tunes I think but you should still have a listen (perhaps I should have another go myself) quite obviously because of the situation Ian Curtis was in at the time. Yep. This is proberbly the most bleak album I have in my collection (Faith by the Cure being up there). I just don't like it. Each to their own though. UP has a unique sound to it. A sound like the space between a dark, ancient, wooded cemetry on the edge of town but with the weight of industrial lights of a big inner city bearing down upon it. I always think if Manchester has Catacombs this would be the soundtrack to that journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 These guys have always seemed pretty overrated to me. What I've heard has done very little for me. Maybe one day I'll try one of their albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 -Get "Unknown Pleasures" & "Closer" on physical formats -Download the tracks that aren't included on those from the compilations -Buy the "Heart & Soul" boxed set if you're a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 -Get "Unknown Pleasures" & "Closer" on physical formats -Download the tracks that aren't included on those from the compilations -Buy the "Heart & Soul" boxed set if you're a fan i'm still wanting to get my hands on the In Memory box set :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 they didnt release very much so start anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 yeah, just start with 'Unknown Pleasures' then 'Closer' and also check 'Movement' by New Order.... Ian Curtis died leaving a bunch of material that was recorded on 'Movement'.... if you love all of this, get the 'Heart and Soul' box set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkmus Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I'd start with the Joy Division Oven Gloves then maybe the Joy Division Running Shoes then maybe a t-shirt, try HMV or somewhere.... don't worry about the albums you can get those later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 don't start with closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 id def recommend Unknown Pleasures and then Substance comp I always knew a few songs and liked them ,but I never really got way into them until I saw a doc called Joy Division: Control i think? but yeah. that opened my eyes to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 jesus christ closer is a piece of shit. horrible. never have understood that one. so yeah, it's my opinion. i can see how some would find connection with that music but for me it's just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 this band is more a fashion statement than anything else. someone had to say it. i really don't think the music is very good in the least. their aesthetic and imagery was way cool, and the whole depressed fucking misery bleak outlook was kind of cool, but the music seriously was pretty bad. maybe i'm missing something, but i genuinely think the music is pretty fucking abysmally bad, and i don't say that about much music at all. linkin park at least can play their instruments and sing properly. joy division - i dunno. though unknown pleasures is about 10 times the better album than closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 linkin park at least can play their instruments and sing properly. joy division started as a straight up punk band. these are not requirements in punk. and ian curtis was a genuinely good writer. his lyrics were incredibly bleak but that guy meant every word with his entire being, and thats all you can really ask from an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lube Saibot Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Yo vamos! MAAAAAANNNNNN you're a cunt. MAAAAAAN. Wow. WOW what a douche. Wow. *rubs temples* Go away fag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 this band is more a fashion statement than anything else. someone had to say it. i really don't think the music is very good in the least. their aesthetic and imagery was way cool, and the whole depressed fucking misery bleak outlook was kind of cool, but the music seriously was pretty bad. maybe i'm missing something, but i genuinely think the music is pretty fucking abysmally bad, and i don't say that about much music at all. linkin park at least can play their instruments and sing properly. joy division - i dunno. though unknown pleasures is about 10 times the better album than closer. But didnt you read the disclaimer on the record before listening? Warning: If you dont like this music Shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Am I seriously the only one here who likes Closer much more, except for the song She's Lost Control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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