wahrk Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It's disappointing to see Peter speaking somewhat disparagingly of this software when he's humped the leg of a lot of mediocre shit (lame apps, overpriced hipster hardware projects, really bad-sounding but conceptually compelling music) over the last few years. He rubs me the wrong way about 80% of the time and then will occasionally write a really good article, like that "Tinkerer's Sunset" one from 2010, that reins me back in. Agreed. The last year or two he's just been really obsessed with stuff that I'm like, "Well that's cool I guess." Bitwig looks badass though. I signed up to get invited to the beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cult fiction Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I signed up for the newsletter to get the beta as well, but it's hard to say where that's going. Shouldn't they at least ask what sort of computer you have at least so they get good coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adam Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0phA3t9qHNw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This looks awesome but I really wish someone would make a DAW that was like a hybrid of Reaper and Buzz.. That would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadarJammer Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This looks awesome but I really wish someone would make a DAW that was like a hybrid of Reaper and Buzz.. That would be amazing. Every DAW should have a modular plugin patching view/mode. Any other way of routing signal chains is like a backwards workaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I actually meant the tracker style of composing, but yeah modular routing is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yeah if BitWig also had a tracker view, I'd just give them my entire wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ya if this is as good as the preview looks then I'm completely sold. Been using Logic for a long while now, but I still don't love it, or even feel all that at home in it. It looks like they stole some user feedback from Ableton and made a feature list out of it hahaha. It looks great aesthetically and conceptually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 interestingly enough it's also a German company haha. I'd bet money that there are some former Ableton people involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 interestingly enough it's also a German company haha. I'd bet money that there are some former Ableton people involved. Bitwig was co-founded by Claes Johanson, who created Surge/Shortcircuit and was a dsp programmer for Ableton, so based on that I think its worth keeping tabs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahrk Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yeah if BitWig also had a tracker view, I'd just give them my entire wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 interestingly enough it's also a German company haha. I'd bet money that there are some former Ableton people involved. Bitwig was co-founded by Claes Johanson, who created Surge/Shortcircuit and was a dsp programmer for Ableton, so based on that I think its worth keeping tabs on. Have you ever actually posted words that you formed yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cear Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 No, but he's giving you an answer. Isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i wonder what the full story is behind this. i mean, when someone leaves a company to start a new one, it's usually to do something different. but in this case, some programmers of ableton live left to make a product... that is a clone of ableton live. bitwig looks interesting and i wish it success because in the world of daws, the more the merrier. but i wouldn't be suprised if ableton have their lawyers on speed dial right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 interestingly enough it's also a German company haha. I'd bet money that there are some former Ableton people involved. Bitwig was co-founded by Claes Johanson, who created Surge/Shortcircuit and was a dsp programmer for Ableton, so based on that I think its worth keeping tabs on. Have you ever actually posted words that you formed yourself? Yeah of course I have. Have you ever actually read the first post in a thread? It was clear that you hadn't, so I was showing you the point you'd missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I was insiuating that someone from higher in the company was involoved. Yes Johanson is programmer, but he is a DSP expert, not a user interface developer. And please forgive me for not memorizing a month old thread before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 this is more what I meant: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=285269 Looks like the whole team worked at Ableton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 There is a 30 page thread in forum.ableton.com questioning whether Ableton should sue Bitwig, and also whether or not everyone is going to abandon ship. Also I think Claes did the GUI's for Short Circuit and Surge, and they look exactly like BitWig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 since this thing is supposed to be running on Linux too, i'm interested to find out how they're going to get around the whole VST issue. since, as far as i know, VST support on Linux is via WINE. and that isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 running some native linux vst's here, works fine.. probably the next spec LV2 plugins are going to be nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 running some native linux vst's here, works fine.. probably the next spec LV2 plugins are going to be nicer. ahh yes, native VSTs... the majority of which are absolutely dire examples of design due to the fact that they're designed by coders, not designers. a problem that afflicts many programs and applications built for Linux based operating systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'd love to collaborate on a plugin with a developer. Do you guys know where I could hook up with any? I'm a UI designer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 running some native linux vst's here, works fine.. probably the next spec LV2 plugins are going to be nicer. ahh yes, native VSTs... the majority of which are absolutely dire examples of design due to the fact that they're designed by coders, not designers. a problem that afflicts many programs and applications built for Linux based operating systems. I don't need a million plugs, just a few that do the job.. I'm running Loomer Aspect and some Togu Audio Line plugs. They work great, no difference from Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'd love to collaborate on a plugin with a developer. Do you guys know where I could hook up with any? I'm a UI designer. hey, you should ask here on KVR Audio http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33 that's a really active plugin dev forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 running some native linux vst's here, works fine.. probably the next spec LV2 plugins are going to be nicer. ahh yes, native VSTs... the majority of which are absolutely dire examples of design due to the fact that they're designed by coders, not designers. a problem that afflicts many programs and applications built for Linux based operating systems. I don't need a million plugs, just a few that do the job.. I'm running Loomer Aspect and some Togu Audio Line plugs. They work great, no difference from Windows. those are very well designed VSTs, something which (in my experience) is very rare amongst the native Linux ones. so my point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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