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me

[chassis]

Fred McGriff, on 18 January 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

I employ the listen on Spotify + buy what I like on vinyl model.

Spotify isnt really above board. If they had their way, that'd be gone too.

Edited by chassis, 18 January 2012 - 12:50 PM.

[Hoodie]

if i didn't pirate music, i'd probably just have my friends burn me cds like they used to in middle school when we didn't know about torrents. is that also morally corrupt? i mean, i try to attend whatever live shows i can and buy t-shirts and whatnot. i think that makes it about even.

[messiaen]

what i noticed with spotify is that 9/10 of the adverts are for spotify its self, surely an indicator its making fuck all?

[Coalbucket PI]

lol come on written by a french guy? fuck off

[Smettingham Rutherford IV]

totally agree.


me-purchase a Blu Ray of popular movie with free online version that is "downloadable off the disk".

downloads the free online version to find that I must first register and sign up for 3 or 4 seperate entities to confirm I can watch the version I have on the disc I just bought.


vs.


downloading for free on the internet in high quality without any of the bullshit.



2nd example:

I don't buy a copy of The Dark Knight so I am forced to sit through 6 seperate commercials on why piracy is bad, especially when these commercials are FUCKING UNSKIPPABLE.

Pirate away, pirates.

[KY]

Coalbucket PI, on 18 January 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

lol come on written by a french guy? fuck off

lol

[Kanakori]

If i didn't pirate I wouldnt have bought the CD's I got. If I didn't pirate, I wouldnt like the artists pages on facebook. I wouldnt talk about them and neither attend to their concerts because I would not know their work and I would not give a shit because I wouldnt know what I'm missing.
Usually I can't enjoy an album on the first listen, but even if I did, I wouldnt buy them all because like most people I ain't got the coin to do so. And even If I was rich, I still wouldnt buy them all. The real artists allways lose in this process.

Edited by Kanakori, 18 January 2012 - 02:38 PM.

[Smettingham Rutherford IV]

besides, since the job creators aren't getting enough corporate tax cuts, us consumers are out of jobs and don't have enough hard earned America dollars to spend on anything other than Funyuns and Super Bowl tickets.

[Kanakori]

Are you the owner of the grillex page?

[Smettingham Rutherford IV]

would you be interested in purchasing one of our Grillex^TM products?

[oscillik]

Smettingham Rutherford IV, on 18 January 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

totally agree.


me-purchase a Blu Ray of popular movie with free online version that is "downloadable off the disk".

downloads the free online version to find that I must first register and sign up for 3 or 4 seperate entities to confirm I can watch the version I have on the disc I just bought.


vs.


downloading for free on the internet in high quality without any of the bullshit.



2nd example:

I don't buy a copy of The Dark Knight so I am forced to sit through 6 seperate commercials on why piracy is bad, especially when these commercials are FUCKING UNSKIPPABLE.

Pirate away, pirates.

fucking A+

[YO303]

Most things are just not worth buying.

Are you telling me i have to pay 15 pounds to see Bucky Larson?? fuck off.

[tauboo]

messiaen, on 18 January 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

what i noticed with spotify is that 9/10 of the adverts are for spotify its self, surely an indicator its making fuck all?

i thought that for a second, and then i remembered that subscriptions are from £5 a month. so it depends how many subscribers there are.

Edited by tauboo, 18 January 2012 - 04:11 PM.

[rumbo]

dese manz hatin, on 18 January 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

luke viia, on 18 January 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

second time i've got a good chance to post this in one day:

video not available because copyrighted material of UMG is in it.

ironiclol.

Worked for me. Was a good talk.

[jules]

KY, on 18 January 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Coalbucket PI, on 18 January 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

lol come on written by a french guy? fuck off

lol

yea, copy that

[Bob Dobalina]

Kanakori, on 18 January 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

If i didn't pirate I wouldnt have bought the CD's I got. If I didn't pirate, I wouldnt like the artists pages on facebook. I wouldnt talk about them and neither attend to their concerts because I would not know their work and I would not give a shit because I wouldnt know what I'm missing.
Usually I can't enjoy an album on the first listen, but even if I did, I wouldnt buy them all because like most people I ain't got the coin to do so. And even If I was rich, I still wouldnt buy them all. The real artists allways lose in this process.

This almost my mindset to a tee (apart from the facebook, I'm too old to take on another time-suck), although I'm slightly more optimistic about the outlook for real artists.

The glut of music (and all media/entertainment) out there now for consumption is so unfathomably huge though, they're aren't enough hours in the day.  I just try to find the niches that are quality and appeal to my tastes, and support the artists making the music to the extent I can.

[patternoverlap]

Bob Dobalina, on 19 January 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

The glut of music (and all media/entertainment) out there now for consumption is so unfathomably huge though, they're aren't enough hours in the day.  I just try to find the niches that are quality and appeal to my tastes, and support the artists making the music to the extent I can.

+1

[kinski]

jesus

i pirate shit too, but i hate when people that do try to make it look like they're the victims.

i mean come on.

[jules]

in this age of piracy, artists who put their stuff out on their own make more money than if they put it out on a label. doesn't that say all there is to know about this?

[Smettingham Rutherford IV]

look, im not saying piracy is the way to go, but this is probably the first time in a marketplace where in a lot of circumstances, the stolen product is actually of BETTER quality than the purchased product.

[oscillik]

jules, on 19 January 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

in this age of piracy, artists who put their stuff out on their own make more money than if they put it out on a label. doesn't that say all there is to know about this?

truth bullets, jules just fired a massive one.

Smettingham Rutherford IV, on 19 January 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

look, im not saying piracy is the way to go, but this is probably the first time in a marketplace where in a lot of circumstances, the stolen product is actually of BETTER quality than the purchased product.

exactly. in much the same way that DRM is fucking eroding games.

[couch]

I pirate but I'm not going to stoop low and say that some old smelly white collar dudes forced me to.  No.  It's my choice.

Though I do think that part of why I prate movies is because I hate how every dvd now forces you to watch a billion previews.  Fuck you I want to watch the movie.  With a downloaded movie you start the film right away.  Sure there are adds on the torrent sites but it's not like they're all in your face.  Oh and I don't have to worry about having a shelf full of dvd cases.  Or dragging them around when I move.  Nor do I have to worry about scratching them up, leaving them out for the cat to poop on, etc.  They all sit on one hard drive.

The main reason I pirate is because it's convenient.  Though I still have to buy CDs once in a while because I can't find everything online.  Sometimes it's easier to call the dudes at my record shop and place an order and let them do all the work.  But seriously.  When somebody says "hey check out this band" I go to youtube, usually it's there but not always.  If I like it I then download an album or two, or maybe their discography.  If I really really like it I'll do my best to attend a gig of theirs.  If they're a metal band they most likely have some shirts or a poster I'll get one of those.


I do know that, living in a small-medium sized city that does not see lots of touring bands, if I did not pirate, my music palette would be microscopic compared to how it really is.  I mean, I would probably still think Pantera and Morbid Angel were the be all-end all of metal.

Not only that but I don't think most people can afford to buy hundreds of CDs in hopes of finding the dozen or so from that genre that they really like.  And the article is right about one thing.  Very little of the money you pay for a CD goes to the artist.  And that small tiny amount of money leftover going to them still has to be split up between the band members.

Edited by couch, 19 January 2012 - 08:44 AM.

[oscillik]

couch, on 19 January 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

I pirate but I'm not going to stoop low and say that some old smelly white collar dudes forced me to.  No.  It's my choice.

Though I do think that part of why I prate movies is because I hate how every dvd now forces you to watch a billion previews.  Fuck you I want to watch the movie.

just wanted to point out the contradiction there.

also I don't think the original article author said that he was forced to pirate by white collar dudes

[Smettingham Rutherford IV]

couch, on 19 January 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

I pirate but I'm not going to stoop low and say that some old smelly white collar dudes forced me to.  No.  It's my choice.

Though I do think that part of why I prate movies is because I hate how every dvd now forces you to watch a billion previews.  Fuck you I want to watch the movie.  With a downloaded movie you start the film right away.  Sure there are adds on the torrent sites but it's not like they're all in your face.  Oh and I don't have to worry about having a shelf full of dvd cases.  Or dragging them around when I move.  Nor do I have to worry about scratching them up, leaving them out for the cat to poop on, etc.  They all sit on one hard drive.

exactly. In the old days, if you bought bootlegged, you knew it was shitty quality, but you just didn't have the cash to buy the real deal. Nowadays its almost reversed, and the worst part is that the consumer that didn't do anything wrong/trying to do the right thing is the one that has to suffer via unskippable previews, shitty quality, drm, and other nonsense...no wonder they are soon to read up how a torrent works. The marketplace simply isn't adjusting for the most part, so fuck them. Economic survival of the fittest. Go back to D.C. and get more of our tax money, that seems to be the only thing you are good at.

btw, I do think some people are having the right idea


Louis' C.K.'s recent special for one great example.