vamos scorcho Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Actress. my theory is that RIP is supposed to be like the death of Aphex Twin to usher in a new age of music stuff like Patten and Actress is now more interesting to me than listening to Drukqs again, of course it's all great stuff but there is definitely new music going on and RIP is one of the best electronic albums in a while, I really love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Post-IDM? It started with Skrillex's first 'drop'. I'm anxiously awaiting some pre-"something better" though. It'll arrive no sooner than Kimye's lovechild goes into puberty, I'm predicting. It'll have 7 tentacles with which it can operate all kinds of devices at the same time. The Prometheus engineers would be proud of him/her. technojungledrumnbasshousetrancegaragedrumnbassagaingrimebasslinedubstepdubstepdubstepdubstepdubstepdubstep idmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidmidm acidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacidacid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Admirable effort with those varrying fontsizes and all, but what does 'mid' mean? Midmidmid? ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 If IDM were a dog it would be an old dying racing dog who won many races in its time but is now losing to faster better looking on steroids racing dogs. There IS a minority who still bet on this old dying dog but this minority consists of 85 year old men who are in love with the past fooling themselves that this once great dog will win a race again against all odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Actress. my theory is that RIP is supposed to be like the death of Aphex Twin to usher in a new age of music stuff like Patten and Actress is now more interesting to me than listening to Drukqs again, of course it's all great stuff but there is definitely new music going on and RIP is one of the best electronic albums in a while, I really love it. are you fucking joking? If Actress is supposed to be the 'death' of aphex twin then aphex twin must have aged 40 years in hyper speed and turned into a dusty old chinese mummy. There is absolutely no fucking way that RIP even holds a candle to GAK (aphex's worst work). I almost just passed out from disbelief that not only that you just said that but RIP is voted one of the best albums of 2012... what happened to you watmm . Although i do admit that i enjoyed that (2nd?) track off RIP that sounds like a parody of side-chaining compressing, where it's like a 4/4 techno track where you literally don't hear the bass drum but just the pumping and breathing of where it would be if it were compressed with one, not sure if it's a joke track but it's hilarious I always saw good and proper IDM as just cutting edge electronic music that came out post-rave. If anyone thinks that aspect of IDM is dead then they've just been reading shitfork too often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thief Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 'idm' is irrelevant now that popular dance music like electro house and brostep are all glitchy and fast why listen to autechre when you can hear similar sounds in a skrillex track that you can actually dance to aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Actress. my theory is that RIP is supposed to be like the death of Aphex Twin to usher in a new age of music stuff like Patten and Actress is now more interesting to me than listening to Drukqs again, of course it's all great stuff but there is definitely new music going on and RIP is one of the best electronic albums in a while, I really love it. are you fucking joking? If Actress is supposed to be the 'death' of aphex twin then aphex twin must have aged 40 years in hyper speed and turned into a dusty old chinese mummy. There is absolutely no fucking way that RIP even holds a candle to GAK (aphex's worst work). I almost just passed out from disbelief that not only that you just said that but RIP is voted one of the best albums of 2012... what happened to you watmm . Although i do admit that i enjoyed that (2nd?) track off RIP that sounds like a parody of side-chaining compressing, where it's like a 4/4 techno track where you literally don't hear the bass drum but just the pumping and breathing of where it would be if it were compressed with one, not sure if it's a joke track but it's hilarious I always saw good and proper IDM as just cutting edge electronic music that came out post-rave. If anyone thinks that aspect of IDM is dead then they've just been reading shitfork too often finally someone who agrees on RIP being a weak release. VHS Head was weak as well but not as much as RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheWallOfSacrifice Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 i would say the bandcamp stuff (2008/2012 witch/chillwave/vaporwave/hypnagogic/vhs) is very close to the creative, sincere, DIY aesthetic of the 90's idm parradigm.. (and i find it more engaging than let's say current post-flylo sidechain warp output or boring footwork/trap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 this thread has been bullshit so far, but in my opinion;late 80s 90-93 92-5 acid/techno -> breakbeat hardcore -> ambient techno (early idm) 2005-2009 2010-2013 2013-?? acid throwback -> hardcore throwback -> early idm throwback obviously that's an over simplification, but I have a feeling we'll be hearing more stuff influenced by early 90s electronic listening music soon, and there has definitely already been a bit of good stuff along this line here and there recently. What the fuck is hardcore throwback? maybe all the resurgence in rave breakbeats, 909 drums, and piano house loops into garage and house tunes lately - i.e. Lone and the plethora of releases that sound like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 this thread has been bullshit so far, but in my opinion;late 80s 90-93 92-5 acid/techno -> breakbeat hardcore -> ambient techno (early idm) 2005-2009 2010-2013 2013-?? acid throwback -> hardcore throwback -> early idm throwback obviously that's an over simplification, but I have a feeling we'll be hearing more stuff influenced by early 90s electronic listening music soon, and there has definitely already been a bit of good stuff along this line here and there recently. What the fuck is hardcore throwback? maybe all the resurgence in rave breakbeats, 909 drums, and piano house loops into garage and house tunes lately - i.e. Lone and the plethora of releases that sound like that I would love to see a 'hardcore/rave' throwback wave. But I can't really think of anyone other than Lone doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 this thread sux IDM4eva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kichiguy Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 idm isn't dead. But I suppose if there is such a thing as post-idm it would probably be Keith Fullerton Whitman's Occlusions material. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pznEPffAyGQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 IDM dead? We're still waiting for Exai, aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 this thread has been bullshit so far, but in my opinion;late 80s 90-93 92-5 acid/techno -> breakbeat hardcore -> ambient techno (early idm) 2005-2009 2010-2013 2013-?? acid throwback -> hardcore throwback -> early idm throwback obviously that's an over simplification, but I have a feeling we'll be hearing more stuff influenced by early 90s electronic listening music soon, and there has definitely already been a bit of good stuff along this line here and there recently. What the fuck is hardcore throwback? maybe all the resurgence in rave breakbeats, 909 drums, and piano house loops into garage and house tunes lately - i.e. Lone and the plethora of releases that sound like that I would love to see a 'hardcore/rave' throwback wave. But I can't really think of anyone other than Lone doing that. It seems to be more of a trend with 12" and EPs and not so much full albums (like Lone or Zomby's Where Were You In 92') - I'm actually drawing a blank though, but I know I've heard it with a lot of dubstep/garage/etc. Like it's no "wave" or trend in and of itself, just a lot of revisits to 90s rave, d'n'b, etc and also this seapunk stuff lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Actress. my theory is that RIP is supposed to be like the death of Aphex Twin to usher in a new age of music stuff like Patten and Actress is now more interesting to me than listening to Drukqs again, of course it's all great stuff but there is definitely new music going on and RIP is one of the best electronic albums in a while, I really love it. are you fucking joking? If Actress is supposed to be the 'death' of aphex twin then aphex twin must have aged 40 years in hyper speed and turned into a dusty old chinese mummy. There is absolutely no fucking way that RIP even holds a candle to GAK (aphex's worst work). I almost just passed out from disbelief that not only that you just said that but RIP is voted one of the best albums of 2012... what happened to you watmm finally someone who agrees on RIP being a weak release. Nice, not the only one here who wasn't a huge RIP fan - I liked it but not my fav by a long shot. I liked Splazsh a lot more anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 If RIP is supposed to be the death of anything, it's well-written melodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve33 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Actress. my theory is that RIP is supposed to be like the death of Aphex Twin to usher in a new age of music stuff like Patten and Actress is now more interesting to me than listening to Drukqs again, of course it's all great stuff but there is definitely new music going on and RIP is one of the best electronic albums in a while, I really love it. are you fucking joking? If Actress is supposed to be the 'death' of aphex twin then aphex twin must have aged 40 years in hyper speed and turned into a dusty old chinese mummy. There is absolutely no fucking way that RIP even holds a candle to GAK (aphex's worst work). I almost just passed out from disbelief that not only that you just said that but RIP is voted one of the best albums of 2012... what happened to you watmm . Although i do admit that i enjoyed that (2nd?) track off RIP that sounds like a parody of side-chaining compressing, where it's like a 4/4 techno track where you literally don't hear the bass drum but just the pumping and breathing of where it would be if it were compressed with one, not sure if it's a joke track but it's hilarious I always saw good and proper IDM as just cutting edge electronic music that came out post-rave. If anyone thinks that aspect of IDM is dead then they've just been reading shitfork too often *Slow Claps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 If pitchfork had been around in the 90s they would have repped every single Aphex Twin album they repped many Autechre albums so, not a good argument by a long shot (and fuck pitchfork) I can't explain why I came to love RIP. It wasn't instant by any means. I wrote something "official" about it for another forum's year end list that I can post here if anyone wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 If pitchfork had been around in the 90s they would have repped every single Aphex Twin album they repped many Autechre albums so, not a good argument by a long shot (and fuck pitchfork) I can't explain why I came to love RIP. It wasn't instant by any means. I wrote something "official" about it for another forum's year end list that I can post here if anyone wants. Pitchfork is a different thing than it used to be. It used to have integrity. It no longer does. It has gone pop. And no I'm not a hipster, I've just watched Pitchfork's IQ drop slowly over the years and now they are essentially just a PR firm that fucking loves hip-hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 If pitchfork had been around in the 90s they would have repped every single Aphex Twin album that's true, they have for the most part: http://web.archive.org/web/200101241159/http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/a/aphex-twin/come-to-daddy.shtml http://web.archive.org/web/20010307120925/http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/a/aphex-twin/richard-d-james-album.shtml http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6393-surfing-on-sine-waves/ http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/223-selected-ambient-works-85-92/ http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/239-hangable-auto-bulb/ http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/227-26-mixes-for-cash/ http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/10401-rushup-edge-ep/ http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/240-chosen-lords/ drukqs got a 5.5 and Analords (they reviewed 2 or 3 at a time) averaged between a high 6 and low 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 thanks for that, they used to be actually a pretty decent site in the earliest years but yeah, I still recommend giving Actress a few tries here and there... I was rather surprised because I'd not heard it in months. I put it on and found that it was like returning to an old friend, which is when I realized that it was a good album, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 thanks for that, they used to be actually a pretty decent site in the earliest years but yeah, I still recommend giving Actress a few tries here and there... I was rather surprised because I'd not heard it in months. I put it on and found that it was like returning to an old friend, which is when I realized that it was a good album, to me. but yeah, I still recommend giving Actress a few tries here and there... I was rather surprised because I'd not heard it in months. I put it on and found that it was like returning to an old friend, which is when I realized that it was a good album, to me. I actually like RIP. But to say that it denotes the death of IDM is some goofy-ass shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd syside Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Vamos, I had a similar realization about R.I.P, it's one of those albums that mystifies the mind with abstract yet oddly familiar atmospheres/emotions, which is akin to when I originally started listening to more IDM/experimental electronic music. Specifically Aphex Twin. So in that sense this is next level electronic music, therefore "post-idm" or whatever, if we are getting down to brass tacks. The Tuss had that kind of impression as well but its still very much AFX and therefore is more of an extension of the past. Actress's music while maybe not technically impressive (I don't know about compression techniques) is structurally interesting because of his ability to craft these textural sonic touches that give the music a physicality. It's almost a reverse of Aphex processes. Hardware ---> Digital ... Actress started Digital with Hazyvile, which took him 3-5 years to make I believe(?), and branched from that structural idea over to Hardware on R.I.P, so the summation of both is like the next level, yeah lol... imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 actress def has his own sound, which is modern so.. anything modern sounding."braindance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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