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These are the kinds of beats trent reznor should be making while kanye should just rap this stuff acapella for ultimate pretentiousness

the whole show where that clip came from... man, the whole snow/all white/lights concept is super dope. fuck. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zZXnGznEKQ

^ this this this "Im in it" is pretty much the only track on the album that was memorable to me.. I liked the darkness mixed with the sexiness and the exotic nature..That and some other song that has that siren/scream going off in between kaynes lines, and i think there was another that had dark piano jazz chords under distorted strings/synths that sounded moody, brooding and kinda pretty, but that could have been the same song as the sirens cant remember... In general, it deed seem like contained anger i agree. Its no doubt an album of brilliant sound design and concept execution, but thats about it..Theres something slightly pretentious, calculated that keeps me from really feeling it. Maybe its the insane list of contributors all adding to the pie.. Maybe its the lack of any melodic hooks, the lack of danceability or head-bobbing-ness.. See it would be one thing if his lyrics were poetic, meaningful or interesting, then an experimental hip hop/noise album would be cool, but here its the same kanye storylines lol

<----- the original yeezus.. dark, noisy, beautiful, mysterious, raw, acid and even more minimally packaged. no matter how many daft punks, bon ivers and hudson mohawks can be hired to combine in one album, it's still never gonna hold up to something like that strange ab3 release that rdj cooked up for himself in his parents house in 1992. pretty cool release though either way, and some pretty stunning moments. mad props on some of those tracks, the concepts and the aggro style though. i still think kanye's best works are those taiko drummed tracks on 808's and heartbreaks and the entire graduation album. the good life and champion are the kinds of feel-good soulful tracks that i want to be hearing from the good camp. fun venturing into the gritty/dissonant territory for a bit, no doubt. i'd definitely do the same kind of thing if i were kanye.

That sounds interesting. Today was a good day. forgot to mention the sliders are on these awesome little toasted brioche buns and the burgers are super juicy with the cheese melted when they're stacked. the waffle fries are the good kind- not like the double fried ones... theyre crunchy on the outside and soft on the inside, dipped in one of those little porcelain ketchup cup and straight into my mouf. i'll be simultaneously playing with my phone, watching some tennis/golf/insert espn program here/etc, and spacing off into the dim lit, usually empty space behind the sports bar which is usually super dead on weekdays during lunch. i like how it's so underrated of a place and the food's so tasty. going out with my gal or friends or fam to eat is surely fun, but there's also something so nice about eating in solitude in the middle of a workday at some random sports grill.

Had a korean bowl of buckwheat noodles, spinach, grilled chicken cabbage, onions and carrots with spicy sesame dressing for breakfast... For lunch, im totally hitting up this awesome sports grill near my work for delicious slider cheeseburgers cooked medium with cheddar, waffle fries with a side of au jus, and a bubbly club soda with lime. yum.

f*ck yes

Yes, agreed.. that would be rad! and I think do remember hearing that more amped up Terrible Lie version... on the Beside You In Time DVD if im not mistaken? .. some great performances on there for sure

you lucky..... damn that would be nice.

Just listened to it a few more times, and actually I have to say, it's getting better the more I play it. Came Back Haunted just may be one of those tracks that get better upon further listening.. I do like the area toward the end where Trent kinda goes off a bit -- ya know that whole black-southern-baptist-woman-trapped-inside-of-trents-body (but in an industrial/aggro fashion) soulful variation type thing he does on final choruses-- it made me smile when he did that, cuz honestly, that's half the reason i like hearing trent sing. there's this bluesy element to his vocals that when he belts out phrases on certain notes, it makes you feel something, something very strong... just wish he would do more of that stuff.. he has sounded "bored" on his last few releases.. cold and careless. hearing this new single again def gives me a little more hope.. there's def some excitement, but i still hope that this is a "weaker" softer cut from the upcoming lp... hoping for some energy, melody, insanely distorted guitar licks, damaged vocals, chaotic layers and some flat out extreme sh*t... the kind of extreme sh*t that got me into nin in the first place. i remember being in like 5th grade, with my best friend at Sam Goody, buying TDS and hearing Big Man With A Gun, and returning it cuz I thought it was violent, scary, disturbing and evil... but buying it again a few days later, cuz it was oh so thrilling... If I could feel just 1% of that thrill again with new NIN, I will be a happy boy.

Interesting... so what's your take on this new single given that you haven't heard any new nin since tds? (that's so hard to believe lol)... part of me is curious if ive just gotten so used to the blandness of his recent output, that im being overly critical of it when i hear it...

incredibly well said about this new single.

i think "hand that feeds" is still the last agro-nails single i got excited about

YES, thank you. i'd rather hear a collection of songs where he sings poetic, emotional lyrics over piano lines... something, anything vibrant and melodic. Instead, I'm assuming I'll hear the same calculated and contained rants over modular synths and fuzzed out guitars. it's funny because even though that "genre" or "style" is probably more similar to broken or maybe even parts of tds than it could be in terms of useage of sounds/instruments, it's still so far away from the freshness, the weirdness, the brutality of those releases. Not here to judge trent on his evolution, growing up, musical choices.. of course, we all have a sort of "prime", musically as artists, it seems, but song-wise, melody-wise, I"m completely convinced that he still has it in him to write memorable music. It just hasn't happened in so long that i miss it. Hopefully, he has spent more time on song/attitude/emotion than production/concept this time around... because imo... song/melody/attitude/emotion > production/concept/sound regardless ill always support and love nin, and pretty much everything's trent's put out has been worthy, i think.. it's sometimes just difficult not to hold such brilliant artists up to the standards they set for themselves.. either way, here's to hoping his next one kills it!

yes.

yeah, def.. heard this-- epic epic track.. very becoming/mr self destruct-esque in terms of chaos, thanks for sharing (: i cant get enough of those bendy, fiercely distorted guitar and synth licks.. the genius of trent is that sometimes i cant even tell if a sound is a guitar or a synth.

i actually wouldnt mind like a short ep of dance pop/synthpop from nin, maybe as a side project.. but not ft. timbaland or anything. it's gotta be produced all by trent, and hopefully it would have a "purest feeling"/"sin"/"thats what i get" late 80s/early 90s synthpop vibe.. that would be my secret nin gift wish... i would also die for some kind of continuation of mr self destruct/piggy/march of the pigs sound... and most mmmm-worthy, songs in the vein of the tds track, the becoming.... annnniie hold a little tighter, i just might slip awayyyyyyy God i love that song.

it'd be so freakin cool if he returned to the mid-late 90's perfect drug dnb breakbeat sound

nice, but not unexpected... hopefully he takes a break from practicing guitar distortion textures and simply "jamming" with them, and quickly releasing anything that sounds somewhat groovy.. hoping he gets back to making melodies, writing song lyrics and then producing them together. i think a lot of us would love if he ventured back to that fragile/tds style-songwriting and just really let loose with song structure... i've felt like lately he's been so concerned with production and beats... i want nin songs again haha, jinx! cheers

Kay, finally just finished.. Im changing my vote from 6.5 to a 7.5/8 now that i've listened to the whole thing... Although RAM does not contain the luscious funky hypnotic house jams that daft punk are known for, the music on here is what's big for me.. production quality crisp as hell too.. love how the final masters weren't maxed out of headroom- shows true classic audiophile merit. the smooth jazz was actually pretty cool, a nice surprise (most at least- some was a bit ridic)- wasn't too big into the splashing, proggy, bonham style drumming through out. i wavered back and forth a bit.. but the smoothness of beyond, the ridiiiiiculously euphoric mood and 808 snappy grooves of Doin It Right almost makes the whole album for me. (mostly just the vocodered robot voice and beat) Beyond is smooth as f*ck. get lucky is still dope even after hearing it over and over. first two tracks were fun. casablancas bit was forced but so so moroder was.. i was like.. do i hate this? do i like, love this? it was silly, and kinda cool, kinda novelty, but in a daft punky kinda way. no hate at all, good stuff. no no no on lose yourself to dance at first i thought touch sounded super pretentious, and was about to skip until those strings came in and the last 2 minutes came, and i almost cried. they def revived themselves at that point. just for that bit of music/ choral part. ahhhh, very umm "touching". oh, also brilliant choice of placing get lucky right after touch. tasteful. a bit loose all over (in terms of tracklist), sometimes cheesy, but always groovy, always classic... loose but somehow coherent.. overall the album's a journey, and as vamos said, at least they are putting out really good music when many in dance/pop arent right now.

yikes, that "lose yourself to dance" track is almost unlistenable.. im half way through streaming it right now.. so far.. 6.5/10 :/ hopefully i get "used" to it, and/or the rest of the LP is bangin.

It's about to happen... Things are in the works... AS we speak... (in REAL TIME)

lol and I missed this little nugget... You said NK leadership isn't crazy. Then you go on a rant about how evil the US is. Then you defend NK government. lol.. Also, I can be Pro-US and still find aspects of US policy crazy... But unlike NK, we have freedoms and don't get thrown into concentration camps for saying words. Therefore in my opinion its a little offensive to North Koreans to say the NK leadership isn't crazy i'm with compson on this. calling a crazy leader like kju and the kims before him crazy because he does crazy fucked up shit to his people is 100% fine by me- don't care how "simplified" or "non-academic" or "inaccurate" it may sound. of course, yes, he may not be classified as "legally insane" to where he'd be likely to have tendencies to kill himself, but i can't help but think of an adam lanza type of persona when it comes to someone so misanthropic/warped. ok yes my use of "misanthropic" is not "accurate" by definition since the nk leadership is nationalistic/racially focused and more fascist than misanthropic, but isnt the nk leaderships warped values and hateful outlook possibly enough of a reason to be skeptical about the inner workings of a mind like that-- that someone so twisted would do something ridiculous like go all out with nukes? i love how the far left once called dubya a nazi and would compare him to bin laden but then many people on the far left tread around the issue of how inhumane a leader like kju is.. "we have to just hear him out and see what it is he wants.. maybe we can come to an agreement", "should we lift sanctions? "will that help?" "the u.s. is instigating and should back off", etc. i'm not for a nuclear war, or people getting killed, of course not, but there's nothing fucking wrong with calling a non-western leader bat shit crazy, fascist, evil, and calling it out for what it is.. when it clearly is what it is.. fucked up, evil, fascist. no shame on putting extreme, cartoonish, generalized black and white labels on something that is to most of the world, so clearly extreme and outright evil. i don't care what civilization, what hemisphere, what religion, what philosophy, what ism they hold. *waiting for everyone to start a list of the "evil" things the US admin and the west has done to "even the playing feild"... gotta just love moral relativism. ....the fact of the matter is the that the U.S, the west and other open societies are held to a much higher standard when it comes to being judged and criticized for it's mistakes. (ex: ChenGod's reminder of the fact that we can get jailed for growing a plant... hmmm.. i'm for legalization of pot myself, but not sure how that adds up to being tortured in prisons, or not being allowed to express your views of your own country without fear of being punished haha) no way, absolutely no way can the legal system and the processes of the U.S. be compared to that of a place like NKs... I don't have to read books on North Korea or learn the Korean language to know that lol when we place the west/democratic/secular/open societies under a moral microscope side-by-side with totalitarian regimes, we can please at least mention a disclaimer that open, free, evolved societies are being held to a higher stander in said comparison?

ummmm.. ---------------------------------- Brian Reynolds "B.R." Myers (born 1963) is an American associate professor of international studies at Dongseo University in Busan, South Korea, best known for his works regarding North Korean history. Myers is a contributing editor for the Atlantic, and an opinion columnist for the New York Times and Wall Street Journal. He is the author of Han Sǒrya and North Korean Literature, published by Cornell in 1994, A Reader's Manifesto, published by Melville House in 2002, and The Cleanest Race, published by Melville House, in 2010. Early life and educationMyers was born in the U.S. state of New Jersey, spent his childhood in Bermuda and his youth in South Africa, and received graduate education in Germany.[3][4] He earned an MA degree in Soviet studies at Ruhr University (1989) and a PhD degree in North Korean literature at the University of Tübingen (1992). Myers subsequently taught German in Japan[4] and worked for the Mercedes-Benz Beijing Liaison Office in 1996.[5] Before his appointment at Dongseo University, Myers lectured in North Korean literature and society at the Korea University North Korean Studies Department.[6] He also taught globalization and North Korean literature at the Inje University Korean Studies Department.[7] Career North Korea and post-modernismMyers’ Han Sŏrya and the North Korean literature: The Failure of Socialist Realism in the DPRK was adapted from his 1992 dissertation at the University of Tübingen and published as the sixty-ninth volume of the Cornell East Asia Series.[8]A Reader’s Manifesto: An Attack on the Growing Pretentiousness in American Literary Prose was developed from his critical review essay of the same name published in the Atlantic in 2001.[9] --------------------------------------------------------------- That's just from the first few sections of his wiki page... Not really sure how the above doesn't qualify him as an "expert" lol. Pretty sure he knows a thing or two more than the average watmmer regarding North Korean issues, yeah?

Most definitely... found it quite interesting as well. I'm considering checking out the guy's book