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Terrible idea. Justin Bieber has a Google Alert set up for any new music genres called "*step". EDIT: none

I think we need a name for this "Tuss-ish" (apologies again, can't think of how else to describe it) sound. You know the style I mean. Vintage drum machines, a relatively small number of funky and somewhat straightforward synth parts with an emphasis on a lot of modulation ("acid"), but also somewhat squashed and clearly touched by some "modern" production techniques. Wasn't "analogue & digital" (or something) a term that JK was using? Let's decide on a genre name we can use as a shorthand for that, this, and related musics. One that doesn't include Tuss refs. EDIT: I suppose "braindance" could work but at the moment that covers a pretty broad spectrum, being a Rephlex catch-all word. Not that I'm a huge fan on putting stuff into genres, but I think it would make talking about it easier.

Funny example. Say what you want about SND, they don't sound like any other band ever. That's for sure. Anyway, I won't pollute this thread anymore until I hear the record. EDIT: da edit genious

I'm not gonna get all bent out of shape about it or anything, but I do think Dave Monolith sounds a lot like the Tuss. Or perhaps just Analord. I dunno, I haven't bought the album yet so perhaps it's not so striking a resemblance as a whole album. But surely we are not trying to deny that fact, right? It's fine for more music that sounds like this to exist, I think.

Go Patriots

MPC 4000! Nice one

Picked this up yesterday but have not listened yet. Am excited to do so.

Whoa, never heard of that Vangelis record. Looks real interesting.

Man, WELL DONE on the Cedric and Keith Hudson as well. Lotta good reggae vinyl being bought in this thread.

This is available on cassette?

Well done on the Scientist!

Wait, this is just now shipping? Oh my...

There was a whole lot of tough talk here in Boston when these guys came through a few days ago about how offensive their lyrics are and shit. I've never heard a single one of their songs, but I'm glad there's a WATMM thread to keep me informed about it. Def easier than actually tackling their huge pile of music. So, just young dudes right? Saying crazy shit? I'm old. I don't care about this, right?

Wow, this is really good. WOW!!

fuck yeah! keep em coming!!@

Listen to "Sunset Everett." It has a pretty straightforward pop song structure -- ABABCBA or something like that. A main melody, a second bit, a different bridge part, and then a return to the main melody. I agree that some of their tracks seem to just shift about randomly (and I myself don't really mind that), but repeated listens to some of their tracks should convince you there is significant 'large-scale' structure in there. Totally agree, that's the standout track on the album in my opinion. At least in terms of songishness

Yeah, I mean, agreed on the subjectivity. I'm not saying that this album is bad, I'd probably get to like it more if I kept at listening to it. I agree that the sound palette on this album doesn't remind me of the 'glitch' genre or era or whatever that was, definitely. It's more the construction that reminds me of that kinda stuff. I just mean that a mixture of sounds is good. Actually, I think some of the songs on Drukqs are good examples of what I mean. 'Taking Control' for example has a lot of moments where it gets real close to the sound of "a ton of stuff in a blender retriggering in ReCycle" but there are still other elements of the track ringing out or propelling it along. I just think that tends to give tracks more of a grooving, rolling quality. Actually, it's funny you mention Vsnares up above—I think that when Vsnares is real good his tracks get super intense but keep "rolling" along like old school jungle, and when he's bad the tracks are choppy and I don't feel like they flow very well… it just sounds like a bunch of switches flipping on and off and not MUSIC. I think the closer you chop and resequence everything, the harder it is to keep a sense of flowing musicality to the tracks. Old jungle kinda rolls lots of times because there are just a few cuts or retriggers of the break per bar. Just a random thought. Egads, I'm only 29! But yeah, I'm definitely becoming a dad. Not as much of an appetite for musical sensory overload these days.

I guess I disagree that this album is definitively not "glitch". Obviously it doesn't sound like r-n or like, fuckin, Aoki Takamasa circa 2002 or something, but there is an element of that same thing to it, to me. Granted, I have only listened to it through I think two times, via YouTube. Because I couldn't get into it I didn't buy it. I'm trying to think of how to describe it. I think what I would say is that compositionally this album reminds me of glitch, while clearly the sounds are different. I mean, this is just my opinion, but if you take a track like 'Brain Damaged', it reminds me a lot of that early 2000s cut-up shit. There's a lot of small-scale detail but I don't find myself latching on to any large-scale structure at all. Maybe I'm just an asshole. I didn't like the Jackson album either really, and this reminds me of that album a lot. In my mind (and I don't mean to offend any fans by saying this), this album is a prime example of 'flippy-floppy' music—I just don't feel like a lot of the busy-ness in the music is very directed or significant. I also personally have a pet peeve, when listening to "cut up" styles of electronic music, with people who do nothing but string a lot of staccato samples together in rhythmic patterns for entire tracks. I like when music has short sounds and long sounds in it, and when a track is made up exclusively of tiny 16th-note-size snippets, your "drum" sounds can be anything. I feel like I don't have any chance to perceive all these supposedly wonderful VHS samples because they're all just 100 ms long bursts of noise and not, you know, music. Also I am an old geezer now so maybe that's it. I would have liked to hear this material resequenced in a way that allowed much more of the original source to shine through. Imagine (and this will really piss you off) this same kinda stuff but put together like Girl Talk did it. So big chunks of old VHS sounds put together and allowed to breathe more. I mean, I know it's not fair to ding the album for what it is NOT, but still. It's an entire album of 16th notes—I dunno how you guys can possibly make it through in one sitting.

Wait, so we're not allowed to say we don't like the album?

um. everything. This. Also maybe it's "uncool" to say so, but I would start with the most recent stuff and work backwards.

Heh. http://soundcloud.com/ascdi/sega-output-mix-1

I finally got off my ass and fired this up. Wicked fun

Is there a version I can buy that avoids giving Philip Sherburne any money?

Jay Stay Paid is good. I found Donuts to be a tough intro to Dilla .. it's a very weird album.

Definitely not parody