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    i just want to contribute to this discussion by mentioning that everything cwmbrancity said about french comedian Dieudonné is complete bullshit.

    Dieudonné is the most popular comedian in France, the establishment needs him as a scapegoat for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

    Dieudonné does not criticize jewish people for what they biologically are, but for what they do.

    by some kind of miracle, in france, being jewish gives you total immunity against criticism, which is irrational, unfair and undemocratic. what does freedom of speech mean if you can't criticize a person's acts because of his/her ethnic origin? preventing to do so is an act of racism, not the other way around.

    also, the jewish community is presented by the french establishment as eternal victims of irrational antisemitism, and the holocaust became the unofficial state religion. nothing can be said in france, that contradicts the official history of the holocaust, and i believe this needs to stop. what is historical research if you're not allowed to draw different conclusions from others? what kind of censorship is this?

    i could go on but that'll do for now.

     

    No way. Most people cant stand dieudonné in france. i spent years there, & he's totally nuts & known as a complete weirdo. He hates jewish people and everybody knows it. even by watmms bullshits standards your post is HISTORY. Speaking about History, 6 millions of jewish people were killed in europe during ww2 & since that, you're not allowed to express antisemitic or racists views in France. As its not considered as an opinion anymore, but as a crime that can lead to other crimes. Makes sense as racist freedom of speech helped to kill 6 millions of innocent victims in Europe. Its not only "official" history, it's History done by specialists, scientits, historians, witnesses not ignorants weirdos/haters posting on some conspirationists subforums. If your different "conclusions" on racism & antisemitism do not reckon or respect historical facts, well it should be fought by all intellectuals means. Leave that to historians. & please never repeat that Dieudonné is the most popular comedian in France as its totally false. Its like saying Come to Daddy is the biggest EVER selling record in the UK. Well you can write it on some forum but errr that's bullshit.

     

     

    thirdly, revisionists contradict the conclusions drawn by "specialists" regarding the holocaust and they strongly disagree with what was established as "historical facts". you might disagree with their conclusions, their methods etc., but i believe they should have a right to exercise their freedom of opinion. i don't want the thought police to tell me what's right or wrong.

    I honestly hope you are just defending the right to be an idiot here.

     

    I tell you he has the right to be stupid here in france, there's no problem at all !


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    i just want to contribute to this discussion by mentioning that everything cwmbrancity said about french comedian Dieudonné is complete bullshit.

    Dieudonné is the most popular comedian in France, the establishment needs him as a scapegoat for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

    Dieudonné does not criticize jewish people for what they biologically are, but for what they do.

    by some kind of miracle, in france, being jewish gives you total immunity against criticism, which is irrational, unfair and undemocratic. what does freedom of speech mean if you can't criticize a person's acts because of his/her ethnic origin? preventing to do so is an act of racism, not the other way around.

    also, the jewish community is presented by the french establishment as eternal victims of irrational antisemitism, and the holocaust became the unofficial state religion. nothing can be said in france, that contradicts the official history of the holocaust, and i believe this needs to stop. what is historical research if you're not allowed to draw different conclusions from others? what kind of censorship is this?

    i could go on but that'll do for now.

     

    No way. Most people cant stand dieudonné in france. i spent years there, & he's totally nuts & known as a complete weirdo. He hates jewish people and everybody knows it. even by watmms bullshits standards your post is HISTORY. Speaking about History, 6 millions of jewish people were killed in europe during ww2 & since that, you're not allowed to express antisemitic or racists views in France. As its not considered as an opinion anymore, but as a crime that can lead to other crimes. Makes sense as racist freedom of speech helped to kill 6 millions of innocent victims in Europe. Its not only "official" history, it's History done by specialists, scientits, historians, witnesses not ignorants weirdos/haters posting on some conspirationists subforums. If your different "conclusions" on racism & antisemitism do not reckon or respect historical facts, well it should be fought by all intellectuals means. Leave that to historians. & please never repeat that Dieudonné is the most popular comedian in France as its totally false. Its like saying Come to Daddy is the biggest EVER selling record in the UK. Well you can write it on some forum but errr that's bullshit.

     

     

    first, who said Dieudonné has antisemitic views? journalists, intellectuals, politicians etc. i personally think his views aren't antisemitic, and i don't need the intelligentsia to tell me what things are or aren't.

    secondly, you can't be punished for your opinion in france. you have the right to contradict history, oh wait, you used to have that right but then the gayssot act was voted, enabling you to be punished for crime of opinion.

    thirdly, revisionists contradict the conclusions drawn by "specialists" regarding the holocaust and they strongly disagree with what was established as "historical facts". you might disagree with their conclusions, their methods etc., but i believe they should have a right to exercise their freedom of opinion. i don't want the thought police to tell me what's right or wrong.

    and last, Dieudonné is one huge phenomenon in france, nobody can seriously deny that. i'm perfectly ok with people disagreeing with his views, or thinking he's not funny, but you can't present him like he has no influence on public opinion. imo, he's probably the single most influent person on french public opinion.

     

     

    Me, i say he is an anti semite and no he doesn’t have unanimous support here in france.

     

    When he invited on stage the worst revisionist Robert Faurisson and give him the mic, or when he’s singing “Shoahnanas” (shoah + ananas) it’s not humour anymore, What he think becomes clear. It’s not because many of you (cause you will be always too many) in france get lost in antisemitic and negationist views that you can claim here france support the worst scumbag in france.

     

    To finish, yeah, journalist, politicians give him too much exposure when they blame him for what he said or take him to court!


  3. thierry meyssan about the "republican march", charlie hebdo etc.: http://www.voltairenet.org/article186458.html

    Thierry Meyssan is a douchebag who see conspiracy everywhere. Why do you relay these informations?

     

    We live in the golden age of mental confusion where this kind of fellow just make a living out of these sort of hazy kind of claim.

     

    Lot of "weak" people follow these jerks just because they cast doubt on "official" statement. But they should learn to think by themselves and seeking the root causing of their own ignorance rather than listening any guru in the web who claim to know more than anyone else.


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    the french governement is totally unpopular. French unemployment reaches unprecedented level. the situation is catastrophic.

     

    and now those fuckers call to "national unity"

     

    i completely agree. i think many french would agree with that.

     

     

    Even tho the government is, indeed, hated, I think the mobilization of people all across the country isn't just a matter of politics. It was so sudden (just like the attacks !), and so nice to see all those people walking down the streets yesterday and today, a lot of them proud of being french, maybe for the first time of their lives. I never saw such a collective power in France, where people are mostly selfish and tend to shit upon public institutions as soon as they can, but the last few days were breathtaking.

     

    Call me optimistic or naive but that's my opinion :flower:

     

     

     

    Fully agree with you mate!

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