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I never said anything about no melody I'm giving two general ways of approaching things - the game is you pick one, as best you can, given the imperfectness of the question, then if you think there's something wrong with the categories, just comment and say why - I got this idea from another thread and it got me wondering what people's values here are, as to what they care about more in music - by outward looking, I mean trying to do something different and new, and by inward looking, I mean trying to express your emotions through music, both as the primary driver either for your own music creation, or music made by others - *obviously* the two are interconnected, but it's a question like "if you had to take a staple to the asshole or the dick, which would you choose" not a choice anyone wants to make, but (for me anyway) interesting to think about. The music one is interesting I mean, I don't have a stapling fetish

Something tells me he probably hates watmm

My fave is Breaking the Waves by a long way - it's the most human The editing is amazing, you're right - very creative and varied

shame about the muted bit(s), this is really nice

funnily enough that's not the issue at all, obviously Collapse and Syro are just as complicated, right? (right? not sure about that) So maybe it's somewhat true about the sound pallete idk Just listened to Collapse - I like it, but actually I think it's kinda rhythmically flat - there's all this cool stuff going on, but the kicks and snares are so small sounding - and I'm sure it's on purpose - but it's not really about the tone of the individual sound, it's how the rhythm doesn't contribute to the expression of the melody - it's like they are ignoring each other - like in the distorted kick section, there's a melody but it's kinda drifting around in the background by itself, where something almost similar on drukqs, the contrast/relationship between the spidery timid voice of the melody and the harsh frenetic voice of the drums would give them moments of connection which were emotionally really amazing while also feeling kind of un-self conscious - or like on 4 Bit 9D Api+E+6 there's this funky bass that really commits to the 1, but the kicks (and other drums) are almost ignoring the 1 completely... at the same time it's really boring to think about music like this, though it's making me think about how rhythm and melodic content are linked, and how important the relationship between them is (for me anyway).. though it's not just that - there's other disconnection between layers, where melodic lines are kind of tangential to each other - they come in and out, and are like in the same key, but don't have a shared emotional progression together And in contrast, papat4 which I way prefer, all the layers are working together, and each section speaks to the previous one in a way that elucidates the emotion - there's even sections in the middle where all the parts are stopping and starting together But there is a unique vibe to the new stuff that to me feels curious and I feel weird saying this (I don't mean this derisively at all) but kind of autistic - like when my autistic friends talk to me and the emotion is not expressed in the same way as someone who is not autistic, like, the flatness of affect but the richness of detail, and there's an unusual sense of impersonal enthusiasm ugh I hate myself

mmm you know what those are good for

I hope they're not birthday cake candles then

pls, I can't

why where are they going? oh..

that's ok, just set fire to the bed at the end with the candles

damn, the one on slsk is 33 dinner during, why not

WOW!! I have to find a good D/L for this stuff!! This stuff makes you feel crazy Oh hi there

I just realised that the fact that the reactions on here are ambiguous kind of makes sense for watmm - you can react in a way that might be sarcastic, or might not But probably is

no, I don't like it

The specifics don't really matter though - someone else might have the same sound palette but do something completely different with it and you might like it, or he might make similar music with a different palette and you wouldn't like it - I think it's how everything works together as a whole that either resonates with something in you or doesn't To plagiarize Zizek again, there's something he says about when someone says "they'd be perfect if only the nose was slightly different", but if the nose was actually different, there would be no interest whatsoever - sometimes the presence of some disturbance creates the idea of the ideal in it's absence, but it's an illusion Which I think works the other way round too - like with Francis Bacon approach (or whoever works in an accidental way), it's like sometimes an accidental mark just does something you can't explain, it creates something which works in the context of the whole in a way that you could never really plan

they are kind of both true from different perspectives though

I think part of it is like knowing how much love and enthusiasm and work goes into making stuff, you feel kinda ungrateful or something - like when you get a christmas present that someone spent so much time thinking about and was really excited to give to you and you just think it's crap, and you don't want to

You know what, I listened to Syro this morning and realised that I love about 4 of the tracks and I don't care about the rest.. and I feel the same about all his other stuff. It's only Druqks that really fucking does it for me all the way through I feel kinda the same about Ceephax, and though the new Snares doesn't move me as much as the older stuff, I still love it Don't know why I was resisting accepting that for so long - the stuff they make that I love, I *really* fucking love, so it's hard to accept when they kinda suck.. I dunno maybe I was conditioned in the days of rock albums half full of filler when I was a teenager Also it makes me really uncomfortable to dislike stuff, and to say that that's how I feel - I don't want to be a downer.. it's boring not liking things but maybe trying really hard to like stuff is not the solution Also I don't like Arca I might change my mind about all of this in 15 minutes time Oh and the Barbie movie kinda sucked

my go to morning music

I don't feel any schadenfreude, I feel sorry for her, even though she's acting like an impudent child - she seems pretty irrational, either because of drugs or personality disorder or both.. the weirdly faint passive "stop!" and the rambling about cooperative, cop, robber etc.. the weird obvious manipulative lying.. it's like she doesn't see any of this as real, like mild psychosis or something

So for "My Arm" - it's the basic FM synth, with arpeggiator, and I recorded myself playing with various things by turning the knobs in record mode, since I don't have an external controller - I was altering aspects of the envelope and the modulating oscillator mainly I think. There is a percussive synth which I think is also FM, and some other rhythmic sounds which I just made in another basic synth plugin. The chords are just some that I kinda improvised in my head and then put into the piano roll.. there's a break which is chopped up and going through a delay used like a comb filter to give it a melodic tone.. For "Walking through the foxgloves" - I may have used Massive or Citrus for one of the synths, and the chimey one is FM. There's an arpeggiated FM synth which may be in Citrus since it sounds a bit more complex where I think I cut off the attack here and there to make it ring out. Drums I think are random free samples from somewhere but not sure, again may have made those in a synth. I think for this one I made a few nice synth patches and then put in a melody I improvised in my head "Blurred bedroom" has I think a fast arpeggiated synth but with long overlapping decays and I just recorded myself moving the cutoff knob like with "My arm". The drum pattern I imagined in my head then programmed in. I might have started with the drum pattern, again I think it's just random free samples or maybe some I recorded ages ago on a snare drum, I basically started by picking out samples that sounded interesting to work with. The single line synth I think might be Massive, but not sure, obviously there's an LFO on the cutoff that comes in on the decay, I think that synth might be distorted a bit. "Sore hazel eyes" - the melody is a bitcrushed synth, with some slides, not sure what synth I made it in, the drums/percussive sounds are all being made in synths, again I made some interesting percussive sounds in various synths and used them to build a rhythm. I think I heard the melody in my head and it included some out of tune notes so I manually adjusted the pitch of the notes in piano roll. Yeah not sure about the bass/kick drum sound. Would have to install FL again and see if I can open the old files for that one. Hope some of that is useful.. I can buy FL again and open the files up if you want to know anything more specific, I am planning to work on some tracks again soon anyway, since I know someone who might do some kinda operatic gothy vocals with me. (fingers crossed)

Beau is Afraid - I literally just finished watching, so I need a few more weeks and maybe a rewatch to better absorb it If Lynch is dreams, this is delirium, but that's saying too little about it.. a world without support or comfort that reminded me of The Leftovers - a series about the people left behind after the rapture, and something else of Maps to the Stars - manipulating away feelings, abuse and crime without compunction, something else of Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire - running in fear, with intermittent strange comfort, which is subsequently reflected back in mockery... I don't know, I feel like there's so much more to say about this one... I can't even say I love it, at one point I thought "so do we watch films to feel stressed and disturbed now?" - at one point I felt my mental health was literally under attack Amazing beautiful details everywhere all the way though, bits of text, motifs, strangely inappropriate music I think that's all my thoughts for now.. I think there may be threads of meaning too, most obviously to do with an overbearing emotionally abusive mother, and some Freudian stuff, but would take a while to unpick