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    Would you consider the IDM community a diverse social space? Is it a cohesive community or fragmented in some way?

    I'd say it's pretty diverse, if your definition includes work and fans of jlin and holy hendon as well as afx and boc. Electronica is a much better word imo - its electronic, you might be able to dance to it, you dont have to.

    I don't think it's a cohesive community, other than perhaps a small hardcore who strongly prefer to or exclusively listen to electronica - communities seem stretched now, when i was into techno fresh out of high school in 1998 and went to uni in Edinburgh, there was a group I knew who were into hard house, and there wouldn't be much cross over between them except when getting pills, same went for the dnb and breakbeat crowds, whereas idm could attract some people of each of those scenes. 

    Now more people seem to wear more hats, its not weird to be into metal, folk and drum and bass all at once cos you can access it all without spunking every last penny on exploring one genre, I might even post on the indie shoegaze bedwetter forum with no sense of shame or feel I'm being unfaithful to electronica. Or at least like jazz memes.



    - What constitutes "popular music" in this digital age? Is IDM popular music?

    Spotify/Films/TikTok/Sea Shanties apparently. In other words, RDJ and BOC are, autchre or whatever they're called ain't



    - Does the online underground exist? What kind of impact does it have on listeners?



    Not since Arctic Monkeys ('theres only music so that theres new ring tones' - how early 21st century quaint!) and Lilly Allen and the "my fingertips are howdin onto duh crack in our foundations" singer broke outta myspace. Has a soundcloud rapper got famous? i genuinely don't know. Does bandcamp make and break bands? What Is Tidal?

    I feel like we're in an era where cleverly constructed music is happy to be in its equivalent of museums, where electronica, jazz, metal or classical don't need to interact with the plebs anymore because they have got enough of a platform and reach for a few of them to make enough money to keep making records, and the idiot music like **** and especially fucking **** are made to be background on youtube videos where a lad from the global south is showing you how to make a windmill out of a broken hoverboard, or as sample pack commodity where all people do is sell samplr packs back and forth and no one even writes a song because why would you when for only 7.99 a month you could buy all the four bar loops you could ever eat.

    Sorry, i meant "yes, to a small and nebulous extent" and "very little"


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  2. On 8/21/2020 at 11:38 PM, neurone said:


    (I chose this one, coz you asked for a single track....but my fav is the whole 2013 liveset 😉 )

    Went for the 2013 live set, finally got round to listening on proper speakers, it's good, lots of nice drum work.

    A problem I have is trying to limit myself to a set of sounds, rather than just throwing anything and everything in. What did you make it on?

  3. 2 hours ago, plugexpert said:

    Have a couple of personal favs accumulated, especially the older tracks that I thought had lost, but through epic recovery have recoverered. Listening back feels like a time-machine to different feels. I always like the energy in this one;


    "Made with protracker on the Amiga 500 somewhere between 94 & 95"  - i started making stuff on acid pro and rebirth about 98, a couple of years later, but was definitely influenced by all the chaos of these older Amiga kids and their hardcore. In Scotland around 95 it was Ultra-Sonic - Annhiliating Rhythm and Rhythmic State - Soap On A Rope the likes, the Dutch stuff always seemed a little harder, a bit more serious, a bit less daft.

    Definitely full on energy 💥

  4. 2 minutes ago, mause said:

    dont usually do the whole circle of fifths thing..just play around with chords until it feels "right" i guess...circle of fifths stuff is good tho.


    😱 wHo CoUlD iT bEeEeEeEeee???
    😉 hehe


    I only know a bit of theory but whenever i learn or remember a new trick I'm always like 'fuck that was actually really useful'. 

    In my head people who know too much theory end up creating noodle jazz and atonal inharmonic classical frippery which I don't often enjoy but maybe that's a unwarranted prejudice

  5. 12 hours ago, mause said:

    The transition to the keychange toward the end of this. (At roughly 4 mins)

    I had been sitting there trying so many weird solutions to transitioning into that keychange and then that one happened..just felt..right and smooth i guess. In my mind its an elegant solution to a stupid, self inflicted problem.

    I tend to get kinda annoyed with a lot of my own music so its kinda refreshing to have a moment like that one.

    nice, i like that you've got a favourite bit of a track, satisfying when it works out like that.

    When you're doing a key change like that do you have a look at the circle of fifths or whatever to decide where to go, or just bash on till it sounds right? I usually do the latter but it would probably would make sense to do the former

    The track sounds like someone, can't quite think who........ 😉


  6. I'm pretty keen on drone, its definitely got its time and place, but I'd be pushed to name my favourite drone track. Or any drone track.

    There was an internet radio station playing drone 24/7 that put a shout out for tracks a while back, i forget the name, but I can't ever resist slapping a donk or a dyad on anything and everything drony, so i was always told to sook the root when i sent them stuff.

    Are you thinking of film scores or scenes when you make it, or is it just for getting transcendental/mainlining horse/drowning out the persistent sirens and allowing sweet sleep to take you?


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  7. By trade I'm a sleep scientist and the opening minutes are taking me here


    The term catathrenia originates from the Greek kata (below) and threnia (to lament) and describes a rare condition which occurs during sleep being characterized by monotonous irregular groans also known as nocturnal groaning



    I've had a concept album about sleep disorders bashing around in the back of my head for years but I've never done anything about it, except recording my own EEG signals and turning it into audio, but I like the idea of having some catathrenia in it

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  8. How many tracks have you got out there, and which one is your personal favourite? Tough ask maybe

    There's so many posters with so many BandClouds that it would take a long time to go through them all. A LONG time.

    I'm not gonna tell you mine as it makes the thread sound like "hey guys listen to me, listen to my tunes, liiiiiiiiiiiisten" but it's not that, I wanna know yours 

    Sorry if this thread has been done afore

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  9. I've got a few people off Spotify recently and onto bandcamp with the following chat - tenner a month is probably two albums a month off bandcamp, 24 albums is plenty to care about in a year and you get the warm fuzzies from buying direct and feel like you're sidestepping the horrorshow of the industry.

    Sure, stream or steal stuff from old rich dead musicians, (or keep second hand record shops open) but buy stuff from the young poor and alive

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  10. I've not read the whole thread, but theres this one boc album....

    Both Chrome Hoof's second album, and Super Besse's second album didn't quite have the stand out tracks their first ones did, but I dunno about /massive/ disappointment. Ritchie Hawtin's stuff after Dex Efx and 909 was kinda flat. Skream after Skream! Mogwai after Young Team


  11. I learned a bit of piano as a kid and always had used midi keyboards, then i took a year of guitar lessons recently, then bought the LinnStrument, by far the most I've ever spent on gear, I prefer grotty scratchy and badly soldered tat than shiny £££ synths but i'd been keen on getting a roli seaboard and then thought "fuck it just spunk your furlough coin, we're all gonna die"

    And its feckin great! When picking up the guitar at first the layout is so much more intuitive than trying to find chords on a piano, and the LinnStrument copies that isomorphism, but also the keys feel sort of obvious somehow, like its easy to know where to go and what to do, what pressure to point on, how to slide. Also feeling like an actual instrument as in you have to put the hours in to get good at it is no bad thing.

    I know theres that psychological thing where you convince yourself something is better the more you spend on something but I'm not sure im falling into that trap. I haven't really explored the MPE aspect of it much, just used it as a controller for Reason and an Axoloti but its great for that


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  12. Howdy, thought i'd fire this up here: 


    Here is the video for our track: Sacronorm from our 1st EP/Album : Precursor 


    Sort of been sitting on this for a long while now with the hope of doing more to it, but alas time has gone on and the drive that the project was on has decided to bail out on me :/


    So.. I've found the last render I did of it on another drive and have decided to put it out as it stands...






    hope you enjoy,




    This is great

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