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Posts posted by worms
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Well 13 million minus 9 million is 4 million.
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Corbyn has to juggle the members views (the remain minority) with the voters views (the leave majority). He keeps calling for a general election because there’s a good chance of him winning. Tory voters hate May, she got in via media stitch up, but they believed she would offer a real Brexit despite being a remainer. Emperor May has no clothes.
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Brown and milliband had about 8-9 million votes each
Corbyn 12 million
Opinion polls are bullshit, always check the vote count
Brown 8,609,527
Miliband 9,347,273
Corbyn 12,878,460
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Corbyn will lose 4 million votes if he supports a 2nd ref
Labour members are remainers, they voted at conference for a 2nd ref
It will be interesting to see how Corbyn handles things
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Volca beats is analogue and digital, a bit shit unless you’re a really good producer.
Volca drum is digital, sounds better from the demos. Haven’t tried it yet.
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Sarah Newton becomes 15th member of the govt to resign over Brexit - BBC
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There's no appetite in parliament for no deal and I think it's extremely unlikely. We're looking at an extension then 2nd ref.
That might be a good thing in the short run, we'll end up with new political parties taking power.
Labour and Tory are decrepit. Going against Brexit will kill them off for good.
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No deal is down in law as the natural outcome
Prime minister May and Chancellor Hammond are opposed to no deal
Might see more resignations in the next few weeks, which would change things a lot
There’s a ‘payroll vote’ that’s quite important in keeping people on May’s side, cushy gov jobs for votes
Let’s see what happens
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Vote was non binding
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Deuteronomy is the most brutal book in the whole bible. Genocide etc.
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Im more worried about probrexit yellow vests turning to terror. We already had an mp get shot and stabbed to death (jo cox) and a lonely nutter drove his car into a mosque. Chances of civil disorder are quite high if there's a 2nd ref.
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If scotland went catalonia the shit would really hit the fan
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the main contention is that it was a massive, persuasive part of unionist campaigning that to vote for remaining in the UK would keep scotland in the EU, which is a pretty big deal for scotland because they export a higher percentage of goods there than england. scotland voted to remain in the EU with the highest majority of any part of britain.But scotland voted to stay in the union :/
the english goverment treats scotland with such a vicious contempt its still surprising to me that indepence lost the first time round. the mandate was established afterwards aswell by scotland once again voting the SNP in so overwhelmingly that they became the 3rd largest westminster party even though scotland has 5million citizens compared to englands 60 odd million.
Yeah I wonder if Snp has reached its peak or will they continue nagging for their own 2nd ref. Depends on corbyn’s skills.
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There’s no rule saying we can’t have a referendum every year. I guess people feel helpless and powerless after losing a referendum. To me it makes sense to wait a whole generation before asking again. Every 30-40 years sits about right.
Has anyone seen this? Video about the ref we had in the 70s.
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But scotland voted to stay in the union :/
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Ukip won 4 million votes at its peak. Even if a 2nd referendum happens, Nigel Farage is planning on making a Brexit Party that in theory could win 4 million votes at least at a general election. 2nd ref irrelevant. Brexit is unstoppable.
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There are plenty of leavers in the Tory party too. I post this speech of Daniel Hannan vs Gordon Brown because Nigel Farage tried to copy it:
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Nigel Farage and his Ukip party won 4 million votes at a general election. So David Cameron was forced into it by UKIP.
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What do you think of Jacob Rees Mogg? Back to the 1870s or what?
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It's narrowing down now, May's deal is very likely to be rejected again. So we're probably looking at an Article 50 extension (and reasonable chance of a 2nd ref after that) or no deal.
Who would you pick to be PM?
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Pitchfork is cunty
Brexit :(
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Posted · Edited by worms
Pro EU manifesto
Brown 8,609,527
Miliband 9,347,273
Pro brexit manifesto
Corbyn 12,878,460