I had posted an announcement on the Bibio subreddit that I moderate that both would be available on October 22nd, 2021. Me and a few people who made those pre-orders had them shipped early and received them. When I asked Bibio about these pressings he said he had no idea they were out for preorder and just about every site after that had it removed from their listings immediately, including Rough Trade. He told me there was an error and that they have been rescheduled for a proper release date TBD. I just wanted to post my copies because, to my surprise, I had not seen any mention about either release on here.