joshuatxuk

True, especially the SP track "Soma." But I think it's interesting to compare Albini's production on In Utero with Vig's, it does make some of Vig's multi-guitar track mixing seem utterly pointless on Nevermind. true, even if grunge become appropriated and morphed into its own caricature, it at least killed the arena rockstar bullshit, or made it truly look like a joke

Yeah I like Parson, he's from my town I don't think he's making dubstep anymore though.

Hardly. I don't believe that black people can only listen to low-brow music, and I never tried to say such a thing. I didn't say that out of racial prejudice, I am just very frustrated recently, with being surrounded by white college students IRL who listen to nothing but Tribe Called Quest and Biz Markie, and people on the internet who will go on for pages about how great MF Doom is. Biz Markie is no great intellectual in the field of rap or hard to comprehend. Also, sorry, "made for white people" is bad wording. It just feels like that after you hear a bunch of white skater kids praise the hell out of Odd Future, and proceed to complain about how 90% of rap is stupid and worthless. Also, I do not think of southern rap as "low-brow." There is quite a lot of intelligent southern rap, as has been mentioned in this thread, and I do not think it should be panned as a whole. I happen to also quite like stuff like Gucci Mayne though, so I am not one who needs to be constantly intellectually stimulated I guess. I mean, the way it's kind sounding to me is that you're saying that black people who do listen to southern rap and not MF Doom or w/e the fuck, are low-brow, because they can listen to intellectual rap as it is indeed for black people too. idk. not trying to twist your words against you or accuse you of being racist, so feel free to ignore that last sentence. I get where you're coming from here. Like, this, I love this song, it's not brilliant or anything, but the production is good, the rappings alright, and it's about fucking tuning your ride, a fairly universal working-class concept (ohh that sounded a tad too academic). It's also a cool video (worth the shitty 15 sec ad) Yet this could easily be labeled as crappy Southern Top 40 Hip-Hop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudIZbCRq_c There's a lot of terrible mainstream rap and club music and likewise a lot of rather lame indie/underground hip-hop as well. Let's not forget a lot of rock, country, and even electronic music is absolute garbage...yet many of the people who listen to those broad genres bash hip-hop as a whole, and vice-versa, often with stereotypical or even racist overtones.

Dreadful Gate

I am hardly wise, I just hate it when people make generalizations about something I love. I don't go stomping into the stoner metal thread and talk about how lame and wanky it is, when I don't know a single thing about it. ^fuck yeah well said I love these threads because the provide such a great jumping point for me to explore genres I of which I wouldn't know where to start.

I was in the same building as him yesterday. Had some posse and made some noise about the TSA. Pretty typical day for the infowarriors actually (I'm on the otherside of the door btw). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbyhoKYt-I8

You've made good points on this post. it is a bit broader though than switching letters around or adding an extra duran or just straight up lifting a well known artist/figure name (IE: Hype Williams, DJ Rollie Fingers, etc.). I fell victim to this once a few years ago when I was going to use Cecile Cooper as a side alias but decided against it and went with quiliuq instead. On the other hand, I don't see a problem with names pulled from a story, book, news, movies, location (where I get most of my track names). I just remembered when I was in high school there was a talent show and there was a band that got turned away because they were called "McDonalds Massacre" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald's_massacre) Perhaps we're all taking this moniker biz a bit too seriously. Love me an epic Luke Saibot post. Please tell me McDonalds Massacre were something other than a grindcore band, b/c that's quite brutal. Reminds me of when I heard someone say that after the Branch Davidian massacre people would joke that Waco stood for "What A Cook Out." I guess "Dead Kennedys" would be up there if it wasn't meant to be satirical.

Lynyrd Skynyrd OOIOO (Can't think of another all vowel band name) ABBA (worst of both trends)

Good one, thought I felt like I had to take a shower afterword. The best Ken Burns documentary ever made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxNAPqGDwCo

Holy shit, same here. The Two Escobars was fascinating, one of the best docs I've ever seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd5amEEVLgk Off the top of my head... ^not super moving or anything, but good little doc ^and I'm not even that much of a stones fan I a love a good war documentary, but I can't think of any specific mini-series that stands out. I also enjoyed Jesus Camp but it's so depressing I rather just watch Saved!. There are so many I need to watch, as this thread is reminding me. Man On Wire, Little Dieter Needs to Fly, The Bridge...

edit - ^ link - http://www.factmag.com/2011/03/17/doom-and-thom-yorke-doing-a-whole-record-together/

Geez, I was just joking...but Yorke + Doom collab might happen soon"

I'm in awe that these collaborations keep happenng, and this rate, something like this will be released next year: Modeseletkor feat. Thom Yorke - Objektive (Burial Remix) Four Tet + Flying Lotus feat MF Doom - Space Race Relations (Sun Ra tribute)

^ Hessle, completely forgot!

It's a good doc about the origins and development of the original scene. Dubstep has met the fate of most genres: it's gone mainstream because of contrived, superficial shit producers. Morons are mostly listening to shit like Skillex or Bassnecter. It's frustrating saying I like dubstep w/out either saying "the good stuff" or telling someone that what they think is "dubstep" is shit. Oh well, that's the problem with being an electronic music fan in a nutshell - most people only know the inferior musicians. Check out anything on Hyperdub, Tempa, Night Slugs, Skull Disco, Hotflush, Planet Mu. Those are pretty solid record labels.

LUCKY!

Fucking love Boris, "Luna" on Metal Swim was brilliant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cDdF04QA14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeEl0M7MQYk ^His album Where were U in 92? is awesome, and a very unique amongst the dubstep producers, even the other Hyperdub artists, here's one of it's tracks.

He still finds time to tour with Björk whenever she goes out... Which I can quite understand! what exactly was his role in bjork's tours? i saw him with bjork at a music festival when she was touring volta. he was alternating back and forth between a fairly small synth/sequencer/fx combo, and a reactable. he was bashing the reactable with such force i was surprised he didn't break it for 'declare independence'. it was awesome. basically an lfo track with bjork vocals Yeah, saw her on the same tour in Austin, TX and Mark Bell was working the reactable with some other guy, Damien Taylor I think. They fucking busted out that Homogenic track "Pluto" and it sounded sick! On top of that some speaker caught on fire and made this shape that looked like the tour font of Volta, almost looked intentional at first. Here's footage (thank god for this guy filming so close) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPhKHWr0ck

And to get back on topic: Drop Nineteens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4oCboj39jo Galaxie 500 (more dream-pop/slowcore than shoegaze though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9bHNrLbpSE

Yes, I agree. Angelic Process isn't as dreamy, a bit harder to dive into compared to rest of this thread. Has Jesu been mentioned in this thread yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvivohzmus&feature=related

Good recommendation, would of made it myself if you hadn't. I thought this was kind of in the same vein as Alcest...just a lot more anguished sounding... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgH6VBchjEA