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    2020 US Election

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    5 hours ago, ignatius said:

    yes. and somehow he was the better option. 

    same w/obama. millions of more people got healthcare in USA because of him but he also went hogwild with drone strikes. the domestic side of things is the harm reduction in this case.. but we could look at every act of policy both foreign and domestic and tally up a pros/cons chart.. seems pointless though.  just know that there's often a better choice in any election (federal, state, local).. and that no one can see the future so you do your best and hope they prove you right more often than they prove you wrong. 

    harm reduction.. when someone makes life better for some people.. it reduces harm. things like child tax credits... that pandemic stuff massively reduced childhood poverty. 

    i'm ok taking what opportunities come along to make things a little better and i know that i'll not get everything and society won't be greatly changed and we'll only get incremental change. 

    i don't need to have a litmus test and i don't expect every politician in the mainstream.. part of the system or whatever.. to be revolutionary and bring on some kind of socialist mutual aid based system based on anarchic principles with no hierarchies.. 

    that's just not gonna happen... so why not do the best we can and try to at least make life less cruel for as many people as possible?

    also, sometimes they do make things better longterm for some people. it happens in small ways.. sometimes by accident or the by-product of some other action. 

    i reject the idea that we should all should abandon the system because it isn't exactly the thing we want or the thing we know is better.  i've had conversations w/people who i'd characterize like that. all or nothing. burn it all down. fine. go ahead. in the meantime i think it'd be cool if some kids got free school lunches and didn't go hungry or some people got health care or tax credits or whatever... or that there was better public transportation or a few more public parks. 

     

    >i don't expect every politician in the mainstream.. part of the system or whatever.. to be revolutionary and bring on some kind of socialist mutual aid based system based on anarchic principles with no hierarchies.. 

    thats a pretty high bar which is systemically never going to happen, that can only come from outside

    but its not a high bar to give everyone universal healthcare, education, etc. plenty of other capitalist countries have done it.  harm reduction, i wouldnt say its harm reduction, democrats and republicans are a unified front defending the owning class's interest, and they are very good.  democrats play a role of pretending to be left wing, and pretending to give an alternative to republicans, and they do more harm than good.  if they disappeared entirely, would their voter base too?  no, and that voter base is much further left than the democrats.  so it suggests a spontaneously arising party starting from nothing representing democratic voters desires would represent them better than the democrats

    2020 US Election

    in General Banter

    Posted · Edited by zlemflolia

    4 hours ago, ignatius said:

    i wouldn't say he's 'great'. he's tolerable and does less harm than the other option. his admin just did approve a big pipeline in the PNW that officials from multiple states objected to as well as numerous environmentalist groups. 

    he's firmly in the neoliberal camp which isn't really a good thing. sometimes he gets it right with domestic policy and there's been a few solid and positive legislative achievements during his turn as president so far. 

    anyway.. he could be a lot worse but could be better. i vote mostly based on harm reduction and he's definitely pointed in the direction of reducing harm.. at least domestically. though there's a lot to debate but that's boring as shit really and is like pissing in the wind. 

    fingers crossed the orange one gets disqualified or if he gets the nomination he gets defeated. i don't think we'd survive another 4 years of that guy. 

    harm reduction?

    hes a supporter of israel's genocide of the palestinians, and said he would veto medicare for all if it was signed by congress on his desk

    this harm reduction fallacy is such bullshit because he doesnt reduce any harm whatsoever, he exists to justify the two-party system by acting as a faux-left option when hes really far right

    "could be a lot worse"
    could be a lot better too. not him though. capitalists are fundamentally incapable of making things better longterm.

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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    Posted · Edited by zlemflolia

    19 hours ago, Mattthegoone said:

    I've no idea what it is that you're trying to say "leaders" and sham elections, what are you saying? Throw me a slow ball here so I can better understand these sham elections? I don't understand what you are saying if you aren't going beyond sham elections and the real possibly unelected leaders (ie the money men that are happy to coin it off a war that I was talking about initially in my initial musings)

    in the US for example there are democrats and republicans.  both capitalists advocating continuation of owning class control of the country.  when anyone even remotely left wing like bernie sanders (a tepid social democrat) tries to run, they slander him in capitalist media.  let alone an actual socialist trying to get in to give working class control.  it is a dictatorship of the owning class, it just shifts between one of two factions

    both democrats and republicans want to maintain israel and support its genocide of palestinians.

    the only parties who dont? communists, the only ones with actual principles

    https://www.liberationnews.org/psl-statement-free-palestine-free-all-palestinian-political-prisoners-end-all-u-s-aid-to-the-israeli-apartheid-regime/

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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    2 hours ago, Mattthegoone said:

    Yeah but what do the capitalist, fascist and imperialist leaders all want? Power, wealth, money, like a 3 sided coin innit, or a 12 sided dice if you want to pretend that there are more intricacies, they all want a dice made out of saffron, gold, diamonds, heroin, children lives or whatever the fuck they can be the greediest fucks from at the expense of whichever other little cunts that they like

    the "leaders" are nothing more than figureheads, stooges put in place by the owning class itself through sham elections which are rigged ahead of time to only let in one of two options, which consists of a much larger population, though still a minority of the global population when the working class is included.  and yes, they want lives of luxury without having to work, by extracting the surplus labor value of the working class, and the entire product of global south and otherwise exploited and imperialized countries

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    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    in General Banter

    Posted · Edited by zlemflolia

    1 hour ago, Mattthegoone said:

    Sickened by the whole thing, can't understand why all other countries govs aren't calling for a ceasefire to stop the killing of innocent civilians on both sides, I mean I can clearly see why the people who have fuck all to do with it who are horrible pigs and are making money off of arms sales are happy but I can't understand how Ursula Von Der Liar is and then giving out about displaced refugees trying to move to Europe, the worst of humanity acting at their absolute worst, all these years of evolution the arrival of the Internet and to use it to spread disinformation and to add fuel to wars, probably a simplistic view that money is the ultimate cause for its prolonging but the cynic in me says it is. The virus with shoes, seems like trees need to evolve a way of killing us

     

    money is too simplistic, it's an emergent phenomenon, taking on forms differing depending on the mode of production

    a) capitalist mode of production being incapable of providing for the material needs of people

    b) fascism, a reassertion of the capitalist mode of production in the most brutal and obvious way, taking on an ethno-nationalist and therefore genocidal character in Israel

    c) imperialism, they want israel as a US military outpost in the region, like a younger Biden said "If Israel did not exist we would have to create it" as a justification for sending them more aid

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    The watmm Anti-GAS thread

    in EKT General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by zlemflolia

    17 minutes ago, BlockUser said:

    Assuming this isn't a shitpost: If you lack the willingness to put in the work, then you just want immediate results. This is very far away from any creative process, which is always a transformational process. It takes humbleness above all. You can't be unwilling to put in the work and then blame the instrument on top of that.

    its a half shitpost

    and after a long day of sitting staring at screens and buttons for work, im not gonna do the same later with synths or software

    i am more humble than you can possible imagine, dont EVER doubt that

    UFO'S

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    Look, having extraterrestrial—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the School of Radiology, very good, very smart —you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the greatest UFOlogists anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to SoR, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a portfolio of proof—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the gravitational waves deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (gravitational waves are powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the Mexican aliens—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the aliens are smarter right now than men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great investigators, the Iranians are great investigators, so, and they, they just abducted, they just abducted us.

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    I am now convinced that capitalism is evil

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    none of this shit even matters, its too complex to attempt to pretend ur comparing "centrally planned" vs capitalism, fact is capitalism cannot even eradicate child food insecurity in the richest capitalist nation on earth, and not only that, they dont even want to pretend like its a goal, they just do not care and actively oppose efforts to fix it

    thats a fundamental flaw, you cannot make rational goals and achieve them, it has to be mediated through a market for profit.  say its a better system all you want, i want a central planning system that says "make more fucking food and distribute it to children and schools immediately" and they have to listen . yeah, i want that level of centralized control , if you dont youre poisoned by ideology

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