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  1. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/stop-blaming-young-voters-not-turning-out-sanders/608137/
  2. go off what deep end? if I wasn't here who would check your uncensored anti-humanism, anti-poorism, nearly fascist pseudo-centrism in favor of mass Iraqi civilian murder assister Joe Biden, as well as the defense of capitalism that is making coronavirus such an issue
  3. holy fucking shit how did I forget to even mention that once. as this fine individual has pointed out, if the world went vegan these nonHumanAnimal-to-humanAnimal viral transfers would not happen.
  4. you sound jealous of people with more stuff than you lol are you being serious or are you making fun of people who would say something like that?
  5. you're right that post is shitty in that aspect, but it was, to me, clearly within the political economic context, not the humanistic medical context.
  6. you think i'm an accelerationist? if acceleration is happening i can't help but point it out. i want to remove this entire system so that no more acceleration is possible. if it's happening and i can point it out, you can bet your life i'm going to point it out. you on the other hand are trying to deny it and play feelings politics with me, getting mad that i'm merely pointing it out. i want private property abolished in favor of communal property so that NOBODY is in poverty, and the current acceleration is evidence that this needs to be done. but me pointing that out is wrong, and your feelings politics of focusing merely on the crisis at hand rather than the larger superstructural problems are in your view more humane, I say they are not
  7. this coronavirus induced economic collapse is the greatest thing to happen to the world in the recent memory. if you aren't preparing for a post-capitalist society and aligning yourself with impending anarchy and communism you're bluepilled as fuck
  8. Bernie didn't confuse the corona crisis with ebola, he mis-spoke the word ebola twice and what he said was still perfectly understandable from the context, then he corrected himself. Don't remember what happened with Biden confusing it.
  9. Completely agreed. Nothing in the past few years has laid bare the lies of capitalism and consumption oriented economics than coronavirus. By proving that when somehow the capacity of the US economy increases, in other words the consumption of goods decreases (gas, airline flights, entertainment, restaurants, etc.) that the metrics of our economy are somehow indicating that things are bad, when they really should be good and happy because our system can support a much higher capacity when it's being less stress tested through mass consumption, the proof is laid out in the open for all to see. That's not even taking into account the clear proof that the US medical system is completely sub-par Yet another piece of the puzzle to help shift the public mindset towards socialism.
  10. it's no surprise that the people with proportionally the most power have been the ones to implement the things that have ended up implemented. warren was unelectable and didn't even win her home state, how is that effectiveness? As for your claims that young peoples' non-voting is an issue down-ballot, the young people's non-voting is an issue by itself, and you are wrong to describe it in this way. If young non-voters are failing to vote for Bernie, those same ones would be failing for Biden right now if he was the furthest left. Those same ones will fail in the general too if Biden beats Bernie, even if it's at a lesser rate than in the primary. The old vote is locked, it's the young vote that has turnout issues. The old vote will vote for Bernie over Trump in the general if they're currently voting for Biden over Bernie in the primary. Biden suffers from this same weakness you're describing against Bernie but worse
  11. A cult of personality? If Bernie loses I will be dropping him because he has no chance anymore. I don't care about Bernie as a person except for his work and policies - I care about implementing the United Socialist States of America Having a Dem majority in the House, Senate, and Oval Office sounds great, if they're not degenerate capitalist shills, and what exactly does that have to do with this? Why do you think Bernie getting the nomination makes this less likely? I have never used Facebook Your take is so wrong on every point that I'm not sure why you posted it Look, you're a status quo pro-Washington centrist, that's fine, I'm sorry you can't handle someone disagreeing with your mainstream views. All I care about is poor people, minorities, underrepresented groups, and workers
  12. why are you such a status quo bootlicker?
  13. do you think mainstream media will for even a moment point out how biden is a fucking senile moron? no because the capitalists who own these companies want biden to protect their capital anyone defending biden in any way is a naive tool of the bourgeoisie, and I pity them
  14. more proof that everyone defending biden is a pathetic piece of shit "let's just elect a fucking senile moron because he's more electable" this country will get what it deserves when it's destroyed from the inside out. at least the US empire will fall if this country fails
  15. I have not shifted the goal posts, you accused me of making a claim that I did not make, then when I pointed out the fact that I did not make that claim, and also responded to your claim, you accused me of moving the goalposts. It is you who is not bright. You are also a conservative which is worse than being not bright, even if I was not bright. Also you're an ableist, or you are intending to be.
  16. quote it then? lmao "the voter suppression is okay because it affects old and young people equivalently" you centrists are insufferable and always end up on the wrong side of history. "the monarchy has worked for centuries, you think we're just going to turn our back on these institutions all of a sudden because young people are sick of it? if they weren't so naive and ignorant they'd realize that a centrist position is better, we have to bargain with the aristocracy" so boring and dusty
  17. yes, ignorance causes them to not be okay with corporate totalitarianism rather than taking an enlightened centrist position. lmao and i didn't shift the goalposts, there are youth in these areas too, I never said anything about the typical voting patterns of black people in general
  18. "go vote" is easy to say when you live in an area that isn't suffering voting discrimination. go to a majority black neighborhood in a rural ex-confederate area and see how easy it is to vote
  19. holy shit lmao ok boomer are you just unaware of the changes in the economy recently that make things hard for young people? this is why young people disproportionately hate status quo centrists
  20. also this attempt to blame non-biden-voting bernie supporters for biden's inevitable loss to Trump is a joke. if biden is so unelectable among young people, why are boomers being stupid enough to vote for him rather than voting for someone who is more likely to get supposedly stupid young people (who suffer massive voter suppression) out to the polls?
  21. it's hilarious because those "key takeaways" are just non-statements. They're filler entries you'd write in a fifth grade essay. It doesn't name numbers, it doesn't take hard stances, it doesn't do shit. I don't see "free healthcare at the point of service", I don't see "free college at the point of service", he's a republican, evidently you are too saying we need "progressive minded centrists" whatever that oxymoronic statement even means
  22. https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/03/02/class-little-word-elites-want-you-forget > Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget The culture wars give the oligarchs, both Democrats and Republicans, the cover to continue the pillage. by Chris Hedges > Aristotle, Niccolò Machiavelli, Alexis de Tocqueville, Adam Smith and Karl Marx grounded their philosophies in the understanding that there is a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us. The interests of the rich are not our interests. The truths of the rich are not our truths. The lives of the rich are not our lives. Great wealth not only breeds contempt for those who do not have it but it empowers oligarchs to pay armies of lawyers, publicists, politicians, judges, academics and journalists to censure and control public debate and stifle dissent. Neoliberalism, deindustrialization, the destruction of labor unions, slashing and even eliminating the taxes of the rich and corporations, free trade, globalization, the surveillance state, endless war and austerity—the ideologies or tools used by the oligarchs to further their own interests — are presented to the public as natural law, the mechanisms for social and economic progress, even as the oligarchs dynamite the foundations of a liberal democracy and exacerbate a climate crisis that threatens to extinguish human life. Oligarchic rule must be destroyed. If we fail, our democracy, and finally our species, will become extinct. The oligarchs are happy to talk about race. They are happy to talk about sexual identity and gender. They are happy to talk about patriotism. They are happy to talk about religion. They are happy to talk about immigration. They are happy to talk about abortion. They are happy to talk about gun control. They are happy to talk about cultural degeneracy or cultural freedom. They are not happy to talk about class. Race, gender, religion, abortion, immigration, gun control, culture and patriotism are issues used to divide the public, to turn neighbor against neighbor, to fuel virulent hatreds and antagonisms. The culture wars give the oligarchs, both Democrats and Republicans, the cover to continue the pillage. There are few substantial differences between the two ruling political parties in the United States. This is why oligarchs like Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg can switch effortlessly from one party to the other. Once oligarchs seize power, Aristotle wrote, a society must either accept tyranny or choose revolution. The United States stood on the cusp of revolution—a fact President Franklin Roosevelt acknowledged in his private correspondence — amid the breakdown of capitalism in the 1930s. Roosevelt responded by aggressively curbing the power of the oligarchs. The federal government dealt with massive unemployment by creating 12 million jobs through the Works Progress Administration (WPA), making the government the largest employer in the country. It legalized unions, many of which had been outlawed, and through the National Labor Relations Act empowered organizing. It approved banking regulations, including the Emergency Banking Act, the Banking Act and the Securities Act, all in 1933, to prevent another stock market crash. The Federal Emergency Relief Administration provided the equivalent in today’s money of $9.88 billion for relief operations in cities and states. The Democratic president heavily taxed the rich and corporations. (The Republican administration of Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s was still taxing the highest earners at 91%.) Roosevelt’s administration instituted programs such as Social Security and a public pension program. It provided financial assistance to tenant farmers and migrant workers. It funded arts and culture. It created the United States Housing Authority and instituted the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, which established the minimum wage and set a limit on mandatory work hours. This heavy government intervention lifted the country out of the Great Depression. It also made Roosevelt, who was elected to an unprecedented fourth term, and the Democratic Party wildly popular among working and middle-class families. The Democratic Party, should it resurrect such policies, would win every election in a landslide. But the New Deal was the bête noire of the oligarchs. They began to undo Roosevelt’s New Deal even before World War II broke out at the end of 1941. They gradually dismantled the regulations and programs that had not only saved capitalism but arguably democracy itself. We now live in an oligarchic state. The oligarchs control politics, the economy, culture, education and the press. Donald Trump may be a narcissist and a con artist, but he savages the oligarchic elite in his long-winded speeches to the delight of his crowds. He, like Bernie Sanders, speaks about the forbidden topic — class. But Trump, though an embarrassment to the oligarchs, does not, like Sanders, pose a genuine threat to them. Trump will, like all demagogues, incite violence against the vulnerable, widen the cultural and social divides and consolidate tyranny, but he will leave the rich alone. It is Sanders whom the oligarchs fear and hate. The Democratic Party elites will use any mechanism, no matter how nefarious and undemocratic, to prevent Sanders from obtaining the nomination. The New York Times interviewed 93 of the more than 700 superdelegates, appointed by the party and permitted to vote in the second round if no candidate receives the required 1,991 delegates to win in the first round. Most of those interviewed said they would seek to prevent Sanders from being the nominee if he did not have a majority of delegates in the first count, even if it required drafting someone who did not run in the primaries — Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio was mentioned — and even if it led to Sanders’ supporters abandoning the party in disgust. If Sanders fails to obtain 1,991 delegates before the convention, which appears likely, it seems nearly certain he will be blocked by the party from becoming the Democratic candidate. The damage done to the Democratic Party, if this happens, will be catastrophic. It will also all but ensure that Trump wins a second term. As I wrote in my Feb. 17 column, “The New Rules of the Games,” “Sanders’ democratic socialism is essentially that of a New Deal Democrat. His political views would be part of the mainstream in France or Germany, where democratic socialism is an accepted part of the political landscape and is routinely challenged as too accommodationist by communists and radical socialists. Sanders calls for an end to our foreign wars, a reduction of the military budget, for ‘Medicare for All,’ abolishing the death penalty, eliminating mandatory minimum sentences and private prisons, a return of Glass-Steagall, raising taxes on the wealthy, increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, canceling student debt, eliminating the Electoral College, banning fracking and breaking up agribusinesses. This does not qualify as a revolutionary agenda.” “Sanders, unlike many more radical socialists, does not propose nationalizing the banks and the fossil fuel and arms industries,” I continued. “He does not call for the criminal prosecution of the financial elites who trashed the global economy or the politicians and generals who lied to launch preemptive wars, defined under international law as criminal wars of aggression, which have devastated much of the Middle East, resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead and millions of refugees and displaced people, and cost the nation between $5 trillion and $7 trillion. He does not call for worker ownership of factories and businesses. He does not promise to halt the government’s wholesale surveillance of the public. He does not intend to punish corporations that have moved manufacturing overseas. Most importantly, he believes, as I do not, that the political system, including the Democratic Party, can be reformed from within. He does not support sustained mass civil disobedience to bring the system down, the only hope we have of halting the climate emergency that threatens to doom the human race. On the political spectrum, he is, at best, an enlightened moderate.” The Democratic Party leaders are acutely aware that in a functioning democracy, one where the rich do not buy elections and send lobbyists to Washington and state capitals to write laws and legislation, one where the danger of oligarchic rule is understood and part of the national debate, they would be out of a job. The Democrats, like the Republicans, serve the interests of the pharmaceutical and insurance industries. The Democrats, like the Republicans, serve the interests of the defense contractors. The Democrats, like the Republicans, serve the interests of the fossil fuel industry. The Democrats, along with the Republicans, authorized $738 billion for our bloated military in fiscal 2020. The Democrats, like the Republicans, do not oppose the endless wars in the Middle East. The Democrats, like the Republicans, took from us our civil liberties, including the right to privacy, freedom from wholesale government surveillance, and due process. The Democrats, like the Republicans, legalized unlimited funding from the rich and corporations to transform our electoral process into a system of legalized bribery. The Democrats, like the Republicans, militarized our police and built a system of mass incarceration that has 25% of the world’s prisoners, although the United States has only 5% of the world’s population. The Democrats, like the Republicans, are the political face of the oligarchy. The leaders of the Democratic Party—the Clintons, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Tom Perez—would rather implode the party and the democratic state than surrender their positions of privilege. The Democratic Party is not a bulwark against despotism. It is the guarantor of despotism. It is a full partner in the class project. Its lies, deceit, betrayal of working men and women and empowering of corporate pillage made a demagogue like Trump possible. Any threat to the class project, even the tepid one that would be offered by Sanders as the party’s nominee, will see the Democratic elites unite with the Republicans to keep Trump in power. What will we do if the oligarchs in the Democratic Party once again steal the nomination from Sanders? Will we finally abandon a system that has always been gamed against us? Will we turn on the oligarchic state to build parallel, popular institutions to protect ourselves and to pit power against power? Will we organize unions, third parties and militant movements that speak in the language of class warfare? Will we form community development organizations that provide local currencies, public banks and food cooperatives? Will we carry out strikes and sustained civil disobedience to wrest power back from the oligarchs to save ourselves and our planet? In 2016 I did not believe that the Democratic elites would permit Sanders to be the nominee and feared, correctly, they would use him after the convention to herd his followers into the voting booths for Hillary Clinton. I do not believe this animus against Sanders has changed in 2020. The theft this time may be more naked, and for this reason more revealing of the forces involved. If all this plays out as I expect and if those on the left continue to put their faith and energy into the Democratic Party, they are not simply willfully naive but complicit in their own enslavement. No successful political movement will be built within the embrace of the Democratic Party, nor will such a movement be built in one election cycle. The struggle to end oligarchic rule will be hard and bitter. It will take time. It will require self-sacrifice, including sustained protest and going to jail. It will be rooted in class warfare. The oligarchs will stop at nothing to crush it. Open, nonviolent revolt against the oligarchic state is our only hope. Oligarchic rule must be destroyed. If we fail, our democracy, and finally our species, will become extinct.
  23. i hope we just have to wait for older reactionary generations to pass and things will naturally get better. but with impending fascism though things are getting scary. i fear that the nature of dynamic systems means lop-sided behavioral patterns cannot extend into the future indefinitely without being cancelled out. the deeply ingrained racism of the right on top of which all of the right's policy platforms are built, when questioned, will radicalize and manifest as unmasked fascism, specifically eco-fascism in the next few decades. ethno-nationalist movements are picking up steam in india, the nazi party is picking up steam in slovakia.... etc https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/28/europe/slovakia-neofascists-kotleba-intl/index.html
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