sheatheman

Man I’ve been watching some Giant Swans sets recently and their live energy is so infectious. For me the only time I make DANCE music is when I’m jamming with someone. My main friend who I played live with before has moved to Seattle. Really wish I had someone to do live techno with again.

The ground loop god chooses when you are worthy to be free

Man, I know there is a good thread on here where we are listing off how many watts our setups are. Couldn’t find it. I know I’ve said this before, but for most gear in a home studio, the highest power draw will be your monitor, and your monitors.

(get your autism hats on guys) But then we come up against the ground loop issue. If you have any significant studio setup, odds are you have to use more than one power strip, and if that is the case, you will absolutely have ground loop issues if you are using any kind of live signal. its a very nebulous topic tbh. Very misunderstood. Now that I’ve learned a little electrical and know enough about household circuits to troubleshoot switches and install ceiling fans or new outlets, I know that ground, in the US, especially in Texas, is almost never referring to a ground rod inserted into the earth. It is a related but separate methodology by which the electrical system in a house safeguards against faulty wiring, basically if a hot wire is contacting a metal surface within an appliance, the current will instantly flow back into the ground wire, to the panel, and the current will trip the breaker, shutting off the supply and eliminating the hazard. my point is, I don’t know and have never found much good literature regarding how much a music setup (laptop, mixer with speakers and synthesizers and effects all plugged into each other) NEEDS ground. Yeah, maybe if there is a power surge, there’s a greater chance that your gear will get fried, but how true is it that the current within the electrical system of a music studio is flowing to ground? If my understanding is correct (I think it is), if current is going into the ground wire, it will trip the breaker. Synthesizers do not need ground to function. They just need a hot and neutral wire. Most plugs don’t even have a ground prong, and most of what I have read says to eliminate ground loops from an interconnected setup, remove ground from all but one wall receptacle connection. Ever since I did that years ago, I have very rarely experienced ground loops...

I think I made a thread about powering your studio a few years ago. It’s something that NEVER gets talked about. You read stuff about power conditioners occasionally, or getting one for your whole house on the street, but in the end the only way to eliminate ground loops is to plug everything into a single outlet. but yeah, i have like 3 12 socket strips to power my studio and they are all full. Never once had any power issues though. The worst that’s ever happened is I recently fried a power supply for a mod pedal that was already on its last legs.

i just ordered one. i need a sampler and this seems like kind of a weird combination of the op-1 and digitakt, both of which i've had and sold. i got tired of the digitakt because it just had too few parameters for me. on paper the tracker seems to have a lot more sound engine wise.

Im very close to ordering one. I’ve been wanting a sampler for a while to capture riffs from my other hardware (and reverb/delay trails), but didn’t want to go back to digitakt, since it only made me want an octatrack again, which I can’t afford. This seems very closely matched to the digitakt functionality wise. but it sure has been dead in this thread now that trackers are readily available.

Man that sux. but apparently a $600 stim is incoming? So I’m looking to get something new. Either a polyend tracker, or some better monitors for my hardware table. Right now I’m using some presonus eris 3.5”s as temporary ones. They aren’t bad for a $99 pair, but yeah, come on. what would you guys do if the top of your budget was $600-$700? I currently use HS5s to mix on. They are great, but I’ve always wanted some HS8s. Right now my studio is oddly L-shaped and small, so the 8’s might be overkill, as from what I understand they punch above their weight. i saw the new rokit g4, could be a good option. Also, how good is that genelec 8010a 3”? A pair would be at the top of my budget, but if I’m hitting $700 shouldn’t I just get the HS8s?

Watmm is tight because I can feel a multi page trumpet discussion brewing in a thread about making dance music. of course I’ve listened to my share of miles. If I had to pick a favorite player off the top of my head, it would be arve henricksen. His style is a little samey, but he helped me chart a course to my own trumpet tone, because he really affirms the trumpet can have a soft, expressive folk music feel to it. It’s a tone that comes out more when you are first learning, and most teachers would tell you it’s just an amateur sound on your way to achieving a traditionally bright concert tone, but yeah there is so much space for more interpretation regarding how a trumpet should sound, but you don’t fine nearly as many examples of idiosyncratic tone like you do on an instrument like guitar. nother good one is John hassel? I love putting some effects on my trumpet too. heres the one trumpet track I’ve uploaded if anyone is interested https://m.soundcloud.com/space-available/halo

I like to make live dance music but I usually end up down a wormhole of reorganizing my boxes and cable management. and then I’m like, “should I do stereo tracks or just stereo return effects, should I put my nova modulator on the model cycles, or on a return track, and should it be stereo or mono? Should tempest be just drums, or just synths, or both? Should I use it to sequence the volca keys or use the volca internal sequencer? How should I route the keystep? Should I split the model cycles into left and right channels and hard pan certain sounds to L/R so they have their own mixer channel? Should I just have one optimal setup that uses all of my gear at once, or should I keep a minimal arrangement of 2-3 boxes that changes every few weeks?” then I usually pick up my guitar and trumpet and walk over to my Ableton setup and make some loops...

You could say most music has already died a death. But all genres can still be authentically made and consumed. The question of authenticity, while many would claim to be its arbiter, is an endless one with no ready answer. But it’s out there.

I think there’s a lot of overthinking here. just make a 4/4 kick pattern from 115-135, which is the house-techno bpm spectrum. then just start messing with a few synths and stuff. It’s not a big deal mayne. Maybe use more mono synth lines for techno and some min7 chords for house.

yeah, the tempest is case-in-point. I love it but it has plenty of glitches for a $2k machine.

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I’ve never used any but you can probably achieve the same epic stuff by using instrument racks in ableton. also, wavetable on ableton is probably as epic as the ones you mentioned.

I have a ms2000 and a dreadbox nyx2 MIDIed into ableton. I like to turn the local midi control off on the ms2000 and use it as my master keyboard, ala MPC. it’s fun to just play my presets and tweak with live. You can also do really involved parameter automation that’s not possible without a daw. Furthermore, I like to use max sequencers to sequence hardware and then record my tweaks with a combination of live midi input. However, I try to be very strict about capturing some audio and then deleting the midi tracks, so I can’t keep going back. the main thing I suggest is as soon as you can get some good bits, print everything to audio and don’t look back. multisampling is also fun, but the only thing I’ve ever taken the time to multisample is this one string instrument from an old iOS app that I really love. All my other sampled instruments are from one note. Why take the time to multi sample a synth I already have sitting next to me? i also have a table full of hardware that I record sessions with into audacity on a separate windows computer. 100% live hardware.

Yeah I assume it’s some weird outsourced Chinese slave tech that dj tech tools slapped their brand on. On paper it’s the perfect controller: endless encoders, freely assignable full color led rings, a few banks. In reality it’s just very difficult to make work sometimes.

Amazon turk. Amazing

This is a dumb conversation though. We should just post music in here. Who cares about ethnomusicology

I contacted support and turns out I was right. From their email: ”Little AlterBoy unfortunately isn't intended for performance use in real-time because we didn't find a way to lower the latency of the algorithm that we were fond of, but it's been something we've been working on improving since it's been released. The specific amount of time it will add to the overall latency depends on how the plugin host handles all the processing, but it's expected to have at least 54ms of latency which is still difficult to perform with, at least in my opinion.” so that’s at least good to know my computer doesn’t have any problems. It’s just a shame because I had some sick effect chains

Im aiming for a mixture of Luddite folkcore and post robloxcore, all gilded with a norm-goth NuSincere aesthetic, with overarching accelerationist objectives.

Damn, little alter boy just started giving me 200-300ms latency. Wtf!!!

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