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maybe there's some more interviews waiting to drop around the physical releases of PLUS.

otherwise, the only reasonable solution is AAA pt. 2 :doge:

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4 hours ago, eclipsis said:

idk, long time ago i've learned not to want anything specific from an AE release because the bros do as they please (as it should be) and my only job is to decide whether i personally like it or not

AE ≠ AC/DC

This occurred to me last night when I was out walking and listening to PLUS (what's in the OP, the new quote system sucks) 

I was thinking that now that we are conditioned into those elseq + NTS track lengths, SIGN and PLUS almost feel like eps, with Quaristice style blink and you'll miss it track brevity. Even though that's not the case and they are normal length album and track lengths.

Weird time dilation shit.

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I love the transition from marhide into ecol4.. it's like ecol scoops up the static from marhide and slices it into neat little slabs

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Right, I fucking love it as well, goes well with sign. More banging and less arty, nice to have bit of both.

Need to listen to them where even tracks belong to the sign set and odd tracks are in plus (index starting from 0 like a normal person).

Last track is in the "goae traensce" genre, that kick drum made me chuckle. I was saying that I would love to see the facial expression of anyone who made it while they were at it, or maybe not.

 

Started listening to move of ten for some reason with those two new additions from Electronic Arts.

 

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1 hour ago, wredny said:

https://lonelymachines.org/2020/10/31/autechre-plus-review/

 

Plus being "SIGN’s extroverted brother."

"The problem is, this feels more like a collection of tracks rather than a cohesive album.  The sequencing is odd, and I’m not sure how it fits."

"Then the record hits a bit of a wall when “iipre esc” and “esle 0” come along and stall the momentum.  There’s nothing wrong with either track.  They’re both gorgeous, but they both sound like SIGN outtakes, and the positioning is weird."

yup.

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Just at the end of my first "back-to-back" listen. It made the the more beat-driven tracks on SIGN stand out more, which I predicted, but what I didn't expect is that it also makes SIGN feel REALLY short for some reason. Perception of time can be a weird thing.

I agree with the comments that PLUS has a weird flow to it, but it seems less noticeable  when listening to these back to back because there's just so much going on.

Overall I really liked the effect of the two combined. I really curious to know what made them decide to split the two releases...

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4 hours ago, jaderpansen said:

"The problem is, this feels more like a collection of tracks rather than a cohesive album.  The sequencing is odd, and I’m not sure how it fits."

"Then the record hits a bit of a wall when “iipre esc” and “esle 0” come along and stall the momentum.  There’s nothing wrong with either track.  They’re both gorgeous, but they both sound like SIGN outtakes, and the positioning is weird."

yup.

i'm still not sure about the tracklists of either record, but listening to PLUS again now and X4 > ii.pre esc > esle 0 works very well imo. 

honestly the one i find ruining the flow for me most is marhide. very nice little weird track, but just stops all the energy of the first two dead, and not in a good way imo. 

also, idk about TM1 open. this is probably how i felt the first 20 times i listened to much of Confield tho, it feels like it's just miles ahead of me and i can't grasp onto anything with it. weird mashup of different ideas is what it feels like. very disparate elements that honestly just seem to clash almost constantly for most of the track. where it gets towards the end works, but the journey there....idk.

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TM1 open is one of my favorite tracks from PLUS. I think that exactly the transformation from the hectic arpeggios in the beginning via the acid bassline to the sweet Ae strings in the end is what makes it. If you just took the strings in the end and made a track out of them it would sound pretty standard late 90s Ae track but the weirdness in the beginning works as a contrast and gives it a kind of alienness that makes the whole track work and not just sound stuffy old IDM.

Ae are pretty good at pulling this kind of switcheroo, either from familiar to strange or vice versa. And then maybe back again.

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23 minutes ago, zkom said:

If you just took the strings in the end and made a track out of them it would sound pretty standard late 90s Ae track but the weirdness in the beginning works as a contrast and gives it a kind of alienness that makes the whole track work and not just sound stuffy old IDM. 

Yeah that's what I love about it, it's like Peel Sessions 1 or Envane put through the Move of Ten system.

I think if I was new to Autechre I would find it too goofy but in the context of their entire back catalogue it gives it a different feeling.

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I’m not seeing a lot of love for 7FM? For me that’s one of the weirder, stereotypically autechre-y tracks from the two albums. One of my favs

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15 minutes ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

I’m not seeing a lot of love for 7FM? For me that’s one of the weirder, stereotypically autechre-y tracks from the two albums. One of my favs

I usually skip it at some point. Sometimes immediately, sometimes after being a couple of minutes in. Not because it's a bad track or anything, just sounds a bit too annoying to me in most situations. Reminds me on people who speak at a too high pitch and volume all the time. I'd really like to strangle them to death with a steel cable.

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TM1 is really open, like a portal to my pineal gland. At first listening I felt a sense of disorientation, not knowing which web to follow, then yes, it opened, wide open, and a sense of lightness reached me, something that I had not felt since the days of irlite get (0), with the addition of a strange, laconic melancholy, which is then magnified by the final chords. This instead is a feeling that brings me back to the ending of 6852, although the two songs have nothing in common  :psyduck:

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5 hours ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

I’m not seeing a lot of love for 7FM? For me that’s one of the weirder, stereotypically autechre-y tracks from the two albums. One of my favs

Also one of mine. Immediately stood out to me, from my first listen of PLUS.

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7 hours ago, Hugh Mughnus said:

I’m not seeing a lot of love for 7FM? For me that’s one of the weirder, stereotypically autechre-y tracks from the two albums. One of my favs

I can't really get into this one yet, to me it sounds like Afx's Akunk with fol3 playing over the top.

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9 minutes ago, Key said:

I can't really get into this one yet, to me it sounds like Afx's Akunk with fol3 playing over the top.

Heh! You say that like it’s a bad thing 😂

I’ll admit it took me a couple listens but once it starts to develop fully (around 2:50) it’s a bit of a melty trippy beast imo 

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I still have to absorb 7FM ... in the first listening I felt like I was listening to the beat of c18 deep tread (actually if you listen to the two songs at the same time, they overlap quite well) with some waves of sound design above, but slowly I'm recognizing an harmonic structure in those waves. But, again, it seems to me a piece that proceeds breaking down rather than expanding and guiding me somewhere (also in this I find an affinity with c18 deep t.). Let's see if and how it will change over time..

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