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Is Hyperpop The Future Of Pop?


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1 hour ago, dr lopez said:

it seems so often that the meaning and impact of the music is supposed to come from the personal sociopolitical positioning of the artist themselves and not the other way around. this is really fucking problematic from an critical perspective. the personal is not inherently political, esp. when art is concerned. second-wave feminism is very discredited these days and i don't know why that has stuck around.

Which is kind of where my disliek for the latest Arca album comes from. So much personal exposition.

To be fair, I think this particular bit of nonsense (hyperpop) is coming from the genre fetishists....weird group them.

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2 hours ago, dr lopez said:

it seems so often that the meaning and impact of the music is supposed to come from the personal sociopolitical positioning of the artist themselves and not the other way around. this is really fucking problematic from an critical perspective. the personal is not inherently political, esp. when art is concerned. second-wave feminism is very discredited these days and i don't know why that has stuck around.

Yes earlier in the thread someone mentioned the vital contributions to early electronic music by queer/LGBT people, but I think in all of those examples, the extent at which they made the music about themselves was far less pronounced than with these hyperpop artists. 

As much as enjoy some hyperpop, what you describe really limits that enjoyment, and I also can't take it seriously. AG Cook is good because there's a strong sense of irony and satire, it's MEANT  to be vapid and self centred, because it's satirising pop music from the 90s and early 2000s. It's definitely an extension of vaporwave.

But just like vaporwave, there's a vast range of attitudes within the hyperpop genre: some artists seem to exaggerate pop sensibilities because they think its just good, like they're not in on the joke. I kinda like Arca's latest album, but I feel like it sits in this category, probably Sophie too.

But then there's also the whole thing of it being pop music at the end of the day and pop isn't meant to be taken seriously and somehow Arca and Sophie are all laughing at us that it's ACTUALLY US that don't get the joke, they ARE making ironic pop music while simultaneously making a serious artistic and "political" statement because of some post-post-modern ideological labyrinthine trap where A is equal to A AND B and nothing really makes sense... Ugh... 

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Remember when the hip queer music was called deconstructed club and made by people like Lotic and Arca timestretching samples of breaking glass? And Lotic wrote an idiotic opinion piece about how the PC Music people where rich white men making music no queer people would be interested in lol. Now the new thing is hyperpop and Arca is seen as a part of that. It just reflects the current climate where people love to craft stupid media narratives around identity. 

Anyway, this track is still as awesome as when Sophie was accused of being a man “appropriating femininity”.  

 

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11 hours ago, chenGOD said:

Which is kind of where my disliek for the latest Arca album comes from. So much personal exposition.

To be fair, I think this particular bit of nonsense (hyperpop) is coming from the genre fetishists....weird group them.

Maybe you have difficulty just listening to arca's album by itself, trying to not be biased by his "image".

I find latest Arca album clearly have bits of brillancy. its not good from beginning to end but tracks like Time, KLK, No quede nada, are musically interesting for my taste at least.

and that comes from a guy who hates everything Arca did since his Stretch series which I praised at the time.

 

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1 hour ago, Ayya Khema said:

Maybe you have difficulty just listening to arca's album by itself, trying to not be biased by his "image".

I find latest Arca album clearly have bits of brillancy. its not good from beginning to end but tracks like Time, KLK, No quede nada, are musically interesting for my taste at least.

and that comes from a guy who hates everything Arca did since his Stretch series which I praised at the time.

 

With the latest album, image is unfortunately entwined into the music. Which is fair enough but just not my cup of tea. 

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