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is a nazi

Peterson on the Nazi-o-meter...

  1. Believes in a form of Social Darwinism in which Judeo-Christian culture is inherently superior to others and in which biology selects these culturally superior traits.

  2. Salivates over hierarchical laws of nature, and the Pareto Principle, Vilfredo Pareto being a big influence on WW2 era fascists.

  3. Quotes, retweets and interviews race realists ( Linda Gottfredson et al), and self-described white nationalists who advocate a white ethnostate.

  4. Promotes a "postmodern neo Marxist" conspiracy, a resurrection of the far-right, anti-Semitic, Cultural Bolshevism meme.

  5. Believes he has divinely ordained missions and apocalyptic meat/apple induced fever dreams.

  6. Has a house full of Stalinist art to remind him of the enemy.

  7. Named his daughter after the guy who toppled Soviet communism.

  8. Shares the far-right's fascistic longing for the past and traditional gender roles.

  9. Jumps to the defense of Caylan Ford, a woman who is saddened by the demographic replacement of white people from their homelands and who thinks western civilization collapses unless run by white dudes.

  10. Fetishizes masculinity, power and strength.

  11. Obsessed with what he perceives to be deviants (transgender people, gays, those with "low competency", "low IQs" etc).

  12. Fears society becoming weak and collectively feminized, and is generally disgusted with the Other (refers to transgender people as a "plague", promotes the conspiratorial/anti-scientific "rapid onset gender dysphoria" meme, thinks Arab are innately "less competent" and "resent Jewish success", that "gay parents are sub optimal" etc).

  13. Believes class is naturally ordained and that a woman's natural and biological identity is that of the caregiver/mother.

  14. Is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by racist, Islamophobic organizations (Ezra Levant and company) and allies with Doug Ford, a politician with loose connections to alt right and white nationalist types.

  15. Has a paranoid obsession with preserving or protecting culture from infection.

  16. Believes we must take cues from the animal kingdom and re-embrace order and dominance hierarchies which favor the strong, high IQed and highly competent.

  17. Believes we're apocalyptically withdrawing from traditions, religion and nation-centredness, and that we're locked in a Nietzschean war between Apollonian order and Dionysian chaos.

  18. Defends Jews by citing Henry Harpending, a eugenicist and "racist realist" who thinks European Jews bred themselves to be smarter, and who speaks at conferences on “Preserving Western Civilization" alongside white nationalists and eugenicists like Peter Brimelow and Jean-Philippe Rushton.

  19. Believes that we're under siege by precisely what the Nazi's anti-Semitic Cultural Bolshevik meme puts forth.

  20. Tries to start organizations dedicating to outing, blacklisting or firing intellectuals he deems heretical.

  21. Attacks intellectuals and intellectual institutions whilst misusing science to justify bashing others.

  22. Believes that the citizen's life need be turned into a mythic hero's story, complete with a culturally potent mix of images, myths, tradition, nostalgia, and emotional and spiritual aesthetics, as well as a "narrative of return" which is opposed by sneaky, villainous cultural Marxists who have infected society and academia like a plague or parasite.

  23. Coincidentally ticks everything on Umberto Eco's fascist checklist ( https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/90ejyq/umberto_ecos_description_of_urfascism_sounds/) .

  24. Has his own creepy youth army.

  25. Looks good in Hugo Boss..

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/lmmf69/jordan_peterson_actual_nazi_or_weirdly_sympathetic/gnwq62w/

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You know, if it wasn't for watmm, I could have gone over half a decade without thinking about Jordan Peterson by now

 

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:catbread:

edit: tbh I'm only here for more fanfics

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MDE did one decent video (the parody of a New England car audio system commercial) and a bunch of try-hard crap.

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You (or dat redditor) talk like it's a bad thing. There's a shitload of Commies out there (and probably here) and they're nice people overall despite Commies being sickening bloodsuckers historically.

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Believes in a form of Social Darwinism in which Judeo-Christian culture is inherently superior to others and in which biology selects these culturally superior traits.

There's no such thing as Judeo-Christian culture, it's two separate cultures that had a lot of co-living with a lot of struggle. There's nothing bad in prefering certain cultures, especially your own, the moment you stop doing it that culture starts to deteriote which we see currently. Calling everyone slightly conservative a Nazi is a part of that suicidal tendency.

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Salivates over hierarchical laws of nature, and the Pareto Principle, Vilfredo Pareto being a big influence on WW2 era fascists.

That's a bit jumpy argument, to be fair. Also I don't personally feel the "salivates" bit, I mean does he? Is he also jerking off to it? Lubricates it with saliva first? What does he do next with it?

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Quotes, retweets and interviews race realists ( Linda Gottfredson et al), and self-described white nationalists who advocate a white ethnostate.

You can't talk with those people, there's a Gulag for that! By the way, did you know that Gulag was installed and administered by Jews all the way thru the beautiful 1937-1938 purge of millions of innocent people? Nothing to do with ethnicity, in fact!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#Gulag_administrators

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Promotes a "postmodern neo Marxist" conspiracy, a resurrection of the far-right, anti-Semitic, Cultural Bolshevism meme.

He gotta have a brand to sell. But yeah, all those trannies from Twitter with hammer and sickle and quite aт innumerable bunch of openly Marxist "no borders, no genders" activists have nothing to do with culture or Bolshevism, it was just a coincidence that Bolsheviks pursued identical policy after the Revolution.

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Believes he has divinely ordained missions and apocalyptic meat/apple induced fever dreams.

Apocalyptic meat/apple induced fever dreams! That's poetic. Well, that's a good point, if you think about it. So it's not only a Hitler thing, but a more general Nazi trait?

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Has a house full of Stalinist art to remind him of the enemy.

I think he just wants to fuck Stalin and compensates for it. Isn't Stalinism a much lesser enemy to a Nazi than Bolsheviks though? In art they actually have a lot in common.

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Named his daughter after the guy who toppled Soviet communism.

Josephaila? Gorbachev was too much of a cretin to topple anything.

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Shares the far-right's fascistic longing for the past and traditional gender roles.

They sorta worked for hundreds of years before fascism, but OK, this longing is a Nazi trait. And Cultural Bolshevism is a conspiracy.

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Jumps to the defense of Caylan Ford, a woman who is saddened by the demographic replacement of white people from their homelands and who thinks western civilization collapses unless run by white dudes.

Hmm. What's wrong with that absolutely healthy view? It's not like any other civilizations are run by more than one race. So whites are like 11% of the world population and their countries should host all the coloured folks and be replaced by them even if some countries didn't mess with them at all ever. In the desired end whites would be the only ones on the planet not running anything, because colonisation was a common sin.

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Fetishizes masculinity, power and strength.

Everyone has their kinks. 

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Obsessed with what he perceives to be deviants (transgender people, gays, those with "low competency", "low IQs" etc).

They're deviant by definition. Not for long, of course! Again, his obsession clearly masks a sexual tension.

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Fears society becoming weak and collectively feminized, and is generally disgusted with the Other (refers to transgender people as a "plague", promotes the conspiratorial/anti-scientific "rapid onset gender dysphoria" meme, thinks Arab are innately "less competent" and "resent Jewish success", that "gay parents are sub optimal" etc).

It's all unarguably untrue. Proven by science!

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Believes class is naturally ordained and that a woman's natural and biological identity is that of the caregiver/mother.

Yeah, what a monster, masking oppression by biology! I mean look at women's reproductive system, we have abortion for that.

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Is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by racist, Islamophobic organizations (Ezra Levant and company) and allies with Doug Ford, a politician with loose connections to alt right and white nationalist types.

Fair enough, still much less than any significant BLM, LGBT-nity, pro-migration, anti-hatespeech funds and the like get from our corpo overlords.

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Has a paranoid obsession with preserving or protecting culture from infection.

Indeed, a stupid hater. I like anal sex, too.

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Believes we must take cues from the animal kingdom and re-embrace order and dominance hierarchies which favor the strong, high IQed and highly competent.

Eh, it kinda repeats the previous points. Is this for a stronger effect? Like he's definitely a Nazi by this point! Yet there's more!

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Believes we're apocalyptically withdrawing from traditions, religion and nation-centredness, and that we're locked in a Nietzschean war between Apollonian order and Dionysian chaos.

Suicide is a sort of apocalypse, i guess. Frankly, he kinda makes it seem cool.

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Defends Jews by citing Henry Harpending, a eugenicist and "racist realist" who thinks European Jews bred themselves to be smarter, and who speaks at conferences on “Preserving Western Civilization" alongside white nationalists and eugenicists like Peter Brimelow and Jean-Philippe Rushton.

You can never defend Jews enough, I know!

https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/

Far-rights love him:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jordan-petersons-integrity.html

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Believes that we're under siege by precisely what the Nazi's anti-Semitic Cultural Bolshevik meme puts forth.

Well, Jews control most of the media and the money. Maybe they're just that good.

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Tries to start organizations dedicating to outing, blacklisting or firing intellectuals he deems heretical.

Ohhhh, those Nazies with their cancelling! Someone gotta stop the fuckers!

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Attacks intellectuals and intellectual institutions whilst misusing science to justify bashing others.

Attacking intellectuals is bad, I agree. The key is not to misuse SCIENCE!

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Believes that the citizen's life need be turned into a mythic hero's story, complete with a culturally potent mix of images, myths, tradition, nostalgia, and emotional and spiritual aesthetics, as well as a "narrative of return" which is opposed by sneaky, villainous cultural Marxists who have infected society and academia like a plague or parasite.

Disgusting! Myths??? What in the fuckk

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Coincidentally ticks everything on Umberto Eco's fascist checklist ( https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/90ejyq/umberto_ecos_description_of_urfascism_sounds/)

Eco won't tell no bullshit, he's an expert.

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Has his own creepy youth army.

Indeed, they're creepy.

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Looks good in Hugo Boss..

Gay.

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I haven't seen that many quote boxes here since Compson in 2013

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JBP may be an annoying, overhyped, intellectually lazy man, but labeling someone as a Nazi isn't a substitute for actual critique.  Save your puritanism for the witch trials.  If you want to know how to discuss philosophical issues legitimately, then I'll clue you in:  instead of spending your energy on trying to tack him onto an identity people fear, I recommend treating his polemic as if it exists in an ideological vacuum, in which ideas slide through cracks and freely collide like a fission reactor, or the plasmids inside a cell, duplicating and repeating in indefinite variations and combinations.  If you simply tack ideas on to National Socialism, then it will actually cause National Socialism to become a real giant monster that you've created.  And I'm not about to fight your monsters for you.  When the Nazis come knocking at your door I'm not going to save you.

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18 minutes ago, Amen Lare said:

You (or dat redditor) talk like it's a bad thing. There's a shitload of Commies out there (and probably here) and they're nice people overall despite Commies being sickening bloodsuckers historically.

There's no such thing as Judeo-Christian culture, it's two separate cultures that had a lot of co-living with a lot of struggle. There's nothing bad in prefering certain cultures, especially your own, the moment you stop doing it that culture starts to deteriote which we see currently. Calling everyone slightly conservative a Nazi is a part of that suicidal tendency.

That's a bit jumpy argument, to be fair. Also I don't personally feel the "salivates" bit, I mean does he? Is he also jerking off to it? Lubricates it with saliva first? What does he do next with it?

You can't talk with those people, there's a Gulag for that! By the way, did you know that Gulag was installed and administered by Jews all the way thru the beautiful 1937-1938 purge of millions of innocent people? Nothing to do with ethnicity, in fact!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#Gulag_administrators

He gotta have a brand to sell. But yeah, all those trannies from Twitter with hammer and sickle and quite aт innumerable bunch of openly Marxist "no borders, no genders" activists have nothing to do with culture or Bolshevism, it was just a coincidence that Bolsheviks pursued identical policy after the Revolution.

Apocalyptic meat/apple induced fever dreams! That's poetic. Well, that's a good point, if you think about it. So it's not only a Hitler thing, but a more general Nazi trait?

I think he just wants to fuck Stalin and compensates for it. Isn't Stalinism a much lesser enemy to a Nazi than Bolsheviks though? In art they actually have a lot in common.

Josephaila? Gorbachev was too much of a cretin to topple anything.

They sorta worked for hundreds of years before fascism, but OK, this longing is a Nazi trait. And Cultural Bolshevism is a conspiracy.

Hmm. What's wrong with that absolutely healthy view? It's not like any other civilizations are run by more than one race. So whites are like 11% of the world population and their countries should host all the coloured folks and be replaced by them even if some countries didn't mess with them at all ever. In the desired end whites would be the only ones on the planet not running anything, because colonisation was a common sin.

Everyone has their kinks. 

They're deviant by definition. Not for long, of course! Again, his obsession clearly masks a sexual tension.

It's all unarguably untrue. Proven by science!

Yeah, what a monster, masking oppression by biology! I mean look at women's reproductive system, we have abortion for that.

Fair enough, still much less than any significant BLM, LGBT-nity, pro-migration, anti-hatespeech funds and the like get from our corpo overlords.

Indeed, a stupid hater. I like anal sex, too.

Eh, it kinda repeats the previous points. Is this for a stronger effect? Like he's definitely a Nazi by this point! Yet there's more!

Suicide is a sort of apocalypse, i guess. Frankly, he kinda makes it seem cool.

You can never defend Jews enough, I know!

https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/

Far-rights love him:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jordan-petersons-integrity.html

Well, Jews control most of the media and the money. Maybe they're just that good.

Ohhhh, those Nazies with their cancelling! Someone gotta stop the fuckers!

Attacking intellectuals is bad, I agree. The key is not to misuse SCIENCE!

Disgusting! Myths??? What in the fuckk

Eco won't tell no bullshit, he's an expert.

Indeed, they're creepy.

Gay.

yikes

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One of the most aggressive facets of Ideology is the insistence that anyone who critiques Ideology is an enemy who must be punished.  It's really quite wasteful.  The Territory is a ruthless game of Capital's expansion.  As Ideas repeat, however, they always find the cracks in Ideology and deterritorialize from within.  No fortress is invulnerable.  Capital will reclaim the nutritional contents of our neoliberal fascism and recycle it into the desiring-machine.

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1 hour ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

threads about reactionaries is good for making other reactionaries come out of the woodworks and let their inner fascist expose itself

Hey man, thanks a lot for your webtivism! It’s good to know someone’s got our backs and thanks to your relentless efforts fascism is kept at bay. Some goddamn (excuse my blaspheming) important work you’re doing here, exposing all the other fascists on this board that are trying to seize power. Time well spent, that’s all I can say. 

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8 minutes ago, user said:

Hey man, thanks a lot for your webtivism! It’s good to know someone’s got our backs and thanks to your relentless efforts fascism is kept at bay. Some goddamn (excuse my blaspheming) important work you’re doing here, exposing all the other fascists on this board that are trying to seize power. Time well spent, that’s all I can say. 

it took me less time to copy and paste the OP than it took you to write this post

congrats you played yourself

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this is at least the 3rd JBP thread and you started it with a reddit copy-paste. great job.

edit: at least the 4th - the only good one was this

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8 hours ago, TubularCorporation said:

MDE did one decent video (the parody of a New England car audio system commercial) and a bunch of try-hard crap.

one man's trash is another man's treasure i guess  :duckhunt:

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I've had Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life in my TBR pile for some time now; I hated the first 12 Rules book, so I expect the sentiment to continue with the second one, too. That's probably why I'm always skipping it when choosing a new book to read. I'll get to it eventually, but I'll hate every word of it with gusto. Why read something you know you'll hate? I prefer to try and understand why I dislike something instead of "just because" - it may seem like a waste of time, but it's my time to waste. Here's some of my views on the first one, lest someone claim I'm a closeted Peterson fan:

 

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