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I'm a stickler for organization so I'm wondering what you consider the proper EP list.

AFAIK there was a bit of confusion because EP7 is actually the 8th or 9th depending on if you count Basscad and/or Cavity Job. 

Personally I considered Anti the first proper EP and EP7 would then be the 7th EP, Cavity Job can be considered a single and Basscad isn't proper since it's remixes. But both cavity and basscad are included in the EPs 1991-2002 Boxset? I'm sure this has been talked about before but I haven't really given it that much thought until now when I'm organizing folders on disk.

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yeah i think it's fair to not count both Cavity Job & Basscad,EP especially the latter since it's the only main Autechre release to have contributions from other people lol

 

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Looking at the RYM releases, Cavity Job is included but I'd venture to call that a single. Basscad,EP is literally called an EP so for me it counts. Plenty of artists have released EPs consisting of remixes. Discounting the 1999 Peel Session (though I'm not sure why it would be discounted), EP7 is the 7th.

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I would consider all of them EPs. Move of Ten is the only one giving me pause, but I guess I would still label it as an EP

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just gonna drop this here in case it arises:

Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae is not an album and not an EP - it is four EPs. it was released as a series of 4-track bundles

Quaristice.PPP9.ep.ae = tracks 1 to 4

Quaristice.9T9P.ep.ae = tracks 5 to 8

Quaristice.c9Pn.ep.ae = tracks 9 to 12

Quaristice.Subrange.ep.ae = track 13

some reports state that it's "an EP more than two hours in length" but Quadrange is just a name for the full collection. it's like calling Analord an "EP". lol.

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Nothing really new there though. Regarding length, the way Autechre uses "EP" has never really had any relation to how the majority of the recording industry uses it. Subrange EP is what almost 60 minutes? A lot of other artists would release that as an album and be done with it. Then again lots of Autechre EPs were split across two 12"s with different catalog numbers and alternate album art, with an album length CD release. Anvil Vapre, almost 36 minutes. EP7, almost 70 minutes counting the hidden track not on vinyl.

Not sure if this is sort of a "hey, we have our album out, our EP is a collection of alternate explorations of those ideas that stand on their own" or it could just be an IDM convention.. Aphex Twin's done this too

Then again there's also their mail order EP either We R Are Why and Wap88, Autechre's remixes of Gescom, so you can add two more eps there to the list. Maybe it's about feels and trying to logick this will end in a failure lol.

 

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13 minutes ago, toaoaoad said:

EP7 is an album. :emotawesomepm9:

Yes, so is Move of Ten, regardless of what ae claim.  11 tracks at 50+ minutes simply isn't an EP... 70 minutes in EP7's case.  A CD doesn't become a cassette just because I insist upon it as an artist.  Sean plz.

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I agree with everyone in their various posts but the reason this started is because I wanted to separate albums from ep's from remixes and so on in folder structure just because it feels nice to have this organization. I didn't use to organize this way but for some reason it's good now...

It makes me wonder though have ae been trolling us a bit since the start with this and made it confusing a little on purpose. 

A part of me really likes when everything is super clean and well defined.

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44 minutes ago, coax said:

It makes me wonder though have ae been trolling us a bit since the start with this and made it confusing a little on purpose. 

I think this is the case. Well, not necessarily that they're intentionally trolling, but that naturally their collections of music are falling into formats/structures outside of the standard single/ep/lp/2lp paradigm. Because it's always about the music first, and that includes the curation, sequencing and overall presentation of their releases. So the length, quality and unifying characteristics of that material goes with that. Trying to fit the ae catalogue into those standard boxes is always going to be a headache, because you need more boxes. No one will ever universally agree on this stuff so just do it the way that makes sense to you.

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On 5/18/2022 at 1:09 PM, sidewinder said:

Looking at the RYM releases, Cavity Job is included but I'd venture to call that a single. Basscad,EP is literally called an EP so for me it counts. Plenty of artists have released EPs consisting of remixes. Discounting the 1999 Peel Session (though I'm not sure why it would be discounted), EP7 is the 7th.

This is basically how i think it is counted too

cavity job is a single, basscad is an EP, and to make EP7 the 7th requires Peel Sessions to not be counted.

while I agree it makes no sense to not count Peel Session, it seems consistent because to make Move of Ten be the 10th would also mean Peel Session 2 wasn’t counted either 

 

I’m not saying it makes sense and I agree it’s all likely part of a troll on the notion of what is an EP vs an LP

In my mind cannon EP7 is much more than an EP, and I’d put it as one of my favorite albums. 

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I've always followed the rule: If it's a WAP (not in the Cardi B sense) then it's a single or EP, if it's a WARP it's an album

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9 minutes ago, mcbpete said:

I've always followed the rule: If it's a WAP (not in the Cardi B sense) then it's a single or EP, if it's a WARP it's an album

seems reasonable

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6 hours ago, mcbpete said:

I've always followed the rule: If it's a WAP (not in the Cardi B sense) then it's a single or EP, if it's a WARP it's an album

Ae WAP rmx pls

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On 5/25/2022 at 3:04 PM, Dragon said:

seems reasonable

so did anyone get my extremely dry sarcastic remark about wap?

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(album)

 

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