Librarization

[zlemflolia]

Librarization of everything.  Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work.  Anything one could need.  A mall where everything is free but communal.  Walkable and integrated with natural outside surroundings.  Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points.  Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing.  The most important centerpiece of every city.  Increased in complexity and breadth in larger cities.  But with easy access to all cities proportional to their size.  A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made.  Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale

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[chim]

 Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work.

Yes please, give me that Bogger 288, I want to take it for a spin. It's free, right?

A mall where everything is free but communal. 

I need five dozen extra Soylent Green bags and two pallets of Skub for my sick grandmother, brother in law, 2 kids & twelve dogs. To each according to his needs, right? 

Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points. 

This horrific conveyor belt existence really ties the natural surroundings together.

A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made.

No sir, I don't want to work with garbage disposal or dangerous electrical work (like these damn conveyor belts breaking down all the time), I'd prefer to be the 800.000.000th Sour Haze QA tester in my particular conveyor belt Mega Block. It's an essential task! I might consider an extra side-gig as a Whiskey taster as well. Gotta be productive in our new utopia!

Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale

If only there was an incentive to escape the conveyor belts...

Edited November 8, 2022 by chim

[beerwolf]

One of my old best friends Andy is a real leftie, always coming out with stuff like this. He’s a real funny dude, highly intelligent and artistic. Bless his heart. The downside to this is that he suffers chronic depression, he use to self harm a lot. Once hospitalising himself. I believe an ambulance had to be called to save him.

I believe he felt trapped in a cursed world where he felt helpless. I don’t see him anymore as he just got way too weird, even for me. Hope he’s okay though.

Edited November 8, 2022 by beerwolf

[prdctvsm]

 

[Squee]

1 hour ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

Librarization of everything.  Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work.  Anything one could need.  A mall where everything is free but communal.  Walkable and integrated with natural outside surroundings.  Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points.  Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing.  The most important centerpiece of every city.  Increased in complexity and breadth in larger cities.  But with easy access to all cities proportional to their size.  A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made.  Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale

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[cichlisuite]

3 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points.

a conveyor belt? that's a huge engine you'd need just to propel a 30 km rubber strip. that's a lot of fucking rubber and energy. what if the entire city worth of supplies is put up there? that's roughly 1000 tones per day (depends of city size).

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 Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing.

you wont get your fancy pineapple because not enough people from your village wants it. then you bargain with your neighbors to send fake requests for pineapple just so you can eat it. next thing you know, the local bad apple kid is selling fake requests under the bridge, but you'll have to blow him. that's his decided wage. and now you have 30 fucking whole pineapples at home.

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A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible

sorry, no bread for you today, sir. the baker decided he's had it, and is at home watching sopranos in his underpants.

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Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale

fucking amateurs. how am i supposed to pull logs out of the forest with my 2-stroke 3d-printed organic tractor?

Edited November 8, 2022 by cichlisuite

[Satans Little Helper]

Remember kids, since Marx passed the world has stood still. The world is exactly the same as it was back then.

*hops on conveyor belt to join the rest of the working gang

 

[Berk]

Fucking neo libraries 

 

[zero]

3 hours ago, Berk said:

Fucking neo

[J3FF3R00]

 

[TubularCorporation]

Does anyone else remember when Neo, 100% the actual Neo because the Matrix is totally real, started a Geocities site back in the early 2000s?

3 minutes ago, J3FF3R00 said:

 

Amazing coincidence, I had some friends over to play music last night but we ended up spending half the time watching scenes from UHF instead.

[Dragon]

8 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

Librarization of everything.  Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work.  Anything one could need.  A mall where everything is free but communal.  Walkable and integrated with natural outside surroundings.  Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points.  Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing.  The most important centerpiece of every city.  Increased in complexity and breadth in larger cities.  But with easy access to all cities proportional to their size.  A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made.  Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale

Edited November 8, 2022 by Dragon

[koolkeyZ865]

Sounds like a really massive convoluted overpopulated hamster enclosure where everyone takes turns running on the wheel

[zero]

1 hour ago, Dragon said:

 

 

the guy sitting down...is that a man bun and a fucking head band? can't tell from the angle.

[zlemflolia]

32 minutes ago, wa11heaven said:

Sounds like a really massive convoluted overpopulated hamster enclosure where everyone takes turns running on the wheel

yes, but it's honest about itself.  we have to work or we will die, this is one of the places we can do it

6 hours ago, cichlisuite said:

sorry, no bread for you today, sir. the baker decided he's had it, and is at home watching sopranos in his underpants.

the kitchen is freely available for anyone to bake bread, if they don't know how they can follow the guides programmed into AR glasses until they do know how

[zlemflolia]

and yes, having pineapples available to anyone in the world is not the reality for most of the world, or a sustainable reality in general.  no, you can not have every commodity.

6 hours ago, Satans Little Helper said:

Remember kids, since Marx passed the world has stood still. The world is exactly the same as it was back then.

*hops on conveyor belt to join the rest of the working gang

 

this thread isn't marxist, it is fourierist utopian socialist

[Silent Member]

This thread brought to you by the conveyor belt crab crew

[cruising for burgers]

"Librarization of everything. Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work. Anything one could need. A mall where everything is free but communal. Walkable and integrated with natural outside surroundings. Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points. Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing. The most important centerpiece of every city. Increased in complexity and breadth in larger cities. But with easy access to all cities proportional to their size. A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made. Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale."

 

Elon Musk

[zero]

1 hour ago, cruising for burgers said:

"Librarization of everything. Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work. Anything one could need. A mall where everything is free but communal. Walkable and integrated with natural outside surroundings. Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points. Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing. The most important centerpiece of every city. Increased in complexity and breadth in larger cities. But with easy access to all cities proportional to their size. A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made. Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale."

 

Elon Musk

seems more Zuck than Elon. Zuck, builder of the imaginary goggle land, where sprites and humans intermingle as one. 

[zlemflolia]

2 hours ago, cruising for burgers said:

"Librarization of everything. Large buildings where people can work on anything they want in groups or alone by free access to any tool or equipment needed for any form of work. Anything one could need. A mall where everything is free but communal. Walkable and integrated with natural outside surroundings. Efficient conveyor belt based automatically routed transportation of objects between any two points. Spontaneous supply chain generation according to communal needs, as indicated by the number of people who are doing a particular type of work with a particular conveyor belt routing. The most important centerpiece of every city. Increased in complexity and breadth in larger cities. But with easy access to all cities proportional to their size. A place designed for work, in the most free and voluntary way possible, but also optimally and without wasted work through compulsory but free education on tool usage and ability to manufacture whatever is being made. Encouraging the workers to not need to buy any commodity except certain subsets of items not manufacturable by amateurs or on a small scale."

 

Elon Musk

This is directly counter to Musk's ideology and real world behavior.  He wants top-down hierarchy and rigid worker exploitation

[chenGOD]

This is not bad, but I’d suggest for large urban centres you’d probably want to have more than one to reduce waste on transportation. 

There are a lot of assumptions that are being made with regard to skill sets and learning but given a large enough population it’s doable (the example of bakers, not everyone can bake, but with a large enough population you could have skilled bakers every day, and some would still be able to have days off).

The problems of course come into play with: not everyone wants to live in a city, you have greed and other negative elements of the human condition to contend with, and who does all the really shit work like sewage maintenance, plumbing, animal control etc.

Other problems come when it’s more efficient to manufacture on economies of scale. And of course some resources really are scarce, and so competition for them will still exist. 

[cruising for burgers]

2 hours ago, zero said:

seems more Zuck than Elon. Zuck, builder of the imaginary goggle land, where sprites and humans intermingle as one. 

 

1 hour ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

This is directly counter to Musk's ideology and real world behavior.  He wants top-down hierarchy and rigid worker exploitation

OK, so, Dev Ayesa...

[zlemflolia]

2 hours ago, chenGOD said:

This is not bad, but I’d suggest for large urban centres you’d probably want to have more than one to reduce waste on transportation. 

There are a lot of assumptions that are being made with regard to skill sets and learning but given a large enough population it’s doable (the example of bakers, not everyone can bake, but with a large enough population you could have skilled bakers every day, and some would still be able to have days off).

The problems of course come into play with: not everyone wants to live in a city, you have greed and other negative elements of the human condition to contend with, and who does all the really shit work like sewage maintenance, plumbing, animal control etc.

Other problems come when it’s more efficient to manufacture on economies of scale. And of course some resources really are scarce, and so competition for them will still exist. 

you could have them all over according to community desires.  small ones that are just a garden shed with tools any neighbor can use.  medium ones with.. books, sewing machines, art supplies, wood shop supplies, whatever.  huge ones with basically everything.  obviously you can't manufacture ships in some city center.  or cars.  but we need less of those anyway.  but we need more trains.  this isn't a replacement for modern supply chains and industry, but a replacement for modern work environments and production of basic goods like curtains, clothes, food.  it's meant to be whatever the people who use it want.  they can vote and get a new CNC milling machine or 3d printer with the funds.  or a new sawhorse.  but on a larger scale and much more stuff