Guest Analogue Wings Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yamaha CS-80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noradrenalin Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 haha if i had that kind of money to spend on toys i'd totally get one. unfortunately i make no money with my music, and basicly spend all the money i do have on rent, groceries, and photo paper :[ i think theres been one in the ebay stores thing for a while actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 except there's no cs 80 in the first two boc albums... the ones that everyone claims has the cs-80 as the signature sound. no cs80. how's that for boc obsessive.(more sound source obsessive.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Weird, I too was taken in by this BoC legend. However, I still think Vangelis used it on the Blade Runner soundtrack... now that's some sweet CS 80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boffin Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 the cs80 thing has got to be shite cos it doesn't sound right at all. i've only heard cs40 stuff for real but it's the same with 4 less voices afaik. i like the way the voices work and the seperate-everything-for-each oscillator which is cool but i'm not that keen on the sound most of the time. i think it was some fannybaws on here that was all 'OMG!! boc secret == teh cs80!!!!' etc. etc. after warezing the software one and pressing some presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Analogue Wings Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Weird, I too was taken in by this BoC legend. However, I still think Vangelis used it on the Blade Runner soundtrack... now that's some sweet CS 80 huh? why would he have used a then 10 year old synth on a futuristic soundtrack? The filter sweeps etc on Blade Runner are pure 80's Japanese analogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Hmm, I'm sure I read somewhere that he did... Yeah, it says so at vintagesynth.com. I guess it could be wrong, I'm no expert on analogue gear, at all. Still, what a soundtrack :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severian Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Vangelis is/was a big fan of the CS-80, and it's definatly the signature sound of the Bladerunner soundtrack. (I also find this statement: "why would he have used a then 10 year old synth on a futuristic soundtrack?" very silly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Analogue Wings Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Vangelis is/was a big fan of the CS-80, and it's definatly the signature sound of the Bladerunner soundtrack. interesting knowledge. I thought the CS-80 specialised in "deep" and "thick" - but that's from listening to BOC, which is of course, wrong. My Roland MKS-50 ($110) has several factory patches that are just Blade Runner to a "T", so no need to spend $2500 recreating the sound... Vangelis coulda used a Juno 106 and saved himself a whole lot of time and back-strain :stuart: (I also find this statement: "why would he have used a then 10 year old synth on a futuristic soundtrack?" very silly) It was 1983 - futurism wasn't retro yet! :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severian Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 The Juno series did come out about 4 years later than Bladerunner, so our greek composing chum would have had to do a brief time-travel expedition :P The CS-80 can do deep and thick too... but so can many other synths. It'd be awesome to own one of course, but I'm not an analogue purist so I'm quite happy with the software version of it until I win the lottery or something. (Edit: To be honest, it's more likely that BoC use Juno's rather than the CS-80... I mean, which one's the more bank-account and maintainance-friendly synth? :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Analogue Wings Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 The Juno series did come out about 4 years later than Bladerunner, so our greek composing chum would have had to do a brief time-travel expedition :P Blade Runner and the Juno 6 came out the same year - but, yeah - Vangelis was probably mostly done with his score by then... he could have used a Jupiter tho :on2long: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noradrenalin Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 haha my mc-202 can do the boc sound if i work at it. i would still buy a cs-80 if i had the extra money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Check out the opening chords to Vangelis' Chariots of Fire... THAT's the real CS-80 sound through and through... Amazing synth... You can get the exact same sound out of a CS-60 with a delay and chorus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 baladerunner uses quite a bit of cs-80. if you want to hear it in full effect listen to some of stevie wonder's more synthy stuff. top synth... couldn't be assed carting it about or tuning it every ten minutes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezeh Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 and it weights about 100kg . forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Check out the opening chords to Vangelis' Chariots of Fire... Yeah, that's another classic. I demand a Vangelis sub-forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 baladerunner uses quite a bit of cs-80. if you want to hear it in full effect listen to some of stevie wonder's more synthy stuff. top synth... couldn't be assed carting it about or tuning it every ten minutes though. It's ridiculously heavy - The shape and size makes it almost impossible to move without at least 3 people... But tuning it's what you don't want to do... The natural detuning of those CS synths is 90% of the sound... It's not that bad, it's not like an out of tune piano or guitar, which sounds horrible - It's just a subtle phasing effect when you play chords... I think BOC get the tuning even less stable by adding layer on layer of wow and flutter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noradrenalin Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 detuned guitars are the shit. i keep my bass out of tune just because i like it that way. i even detune my synths to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I think BOC get the tuning even less stable by adding layer on layer of wow and flutter... except that there isn't a cs80 on mhtrtc or on geogaddi.. i haven't given the new album enough of a listen to say, but i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosca Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 and while we're at it - they also use computers mosca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I'm sure I read someone here say they heard a Reaktor patch on geogaddi... At the end of the day, who's honestly that bothered? They could use nothing but Arturia plugins for all I care, as long as the music's as BoCgasmic as ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 I think BOC get the tuning even less stable by adding layer on layer of wow and flutter... except that there isn't a cs80 on mhtrtc or on geogaddi.. i haven't given the new album enough of a listen to say, but i doubt it. Are you sure? Because the only album I've heard of theirs which doesn't sound like almost every synth part is CS80 is Twoism... They might use a CS70 or 60, or maybe (at a stretch) an Oberheim OB8, but it's a very distinctive sound... if it was Arturia plug-ins it would be like Hendrix playing through a Line 6 Pod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think BOC get the tuning even less stable by adding layer on layer of wow and flutter... except that there isn't a cs80 on mhtrtc or on geogaddi.. i haven't given the new album enough of a listen to say, but i doubt it. Are you sure? Because the only album I've heard of theirs which doesn't sound like almost every synth part is CS80 is Twoism... They might use a CS70 or 60, or maybe (at a stretch) an Oberheim OB8, but it's a very distinctive sound... if it was Arturia plug-ins it would be like Hendrix playing through a Line 6 Pod... i'm positive. and it's not plugins either, it's just very involved production.. if you think those sounds are "as they come out of the synth", then you're barking up the wrong tree... most of boc's work goes in in production/post production... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jbible Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The synth used by BOC often mistaken for a CS80 is a Crumar with a BOC emblem covering the name of the synth on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Analogue Wings Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The synth used by BOC often mistaken for a CS80 is a Crumar with a BOC emblem covering the name of the synth on the back. Now THATs interesting. A Crumar sounds way more like a Juno than it does a CS80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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