Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Surfing On The Swine Waves i spilled my drink making this so you cunts had better appreciate it
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 why did you sample america's most wanted through out the whole album? :(
Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 it wasn't sampled. live on tv, run through synths and fx.
beneboi Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 it wasn't sampled. live on tv, run through synths and fx. Thats called sampling. Dling this now.
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 yeah it was still sampling, and I dunno those shows are annoying.
beneboi Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Im not sure if you realized this but you have the same phaser mod thing running at the same tempo the entire time. I mean, I understand this is all taken from one session of fucking around with a sampler but...
Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) yeah it was still sampling, and I dunno those shows are annoying. they use the same looped helecopter and siren noises for every chase. the same voiceover guy in the helecopter. some of what sounds like helecopter in there is actually my ms2000. Im not sure if you realized this but you have the same phaser mod thing running at the same tempo the entire time. I mean, I understand this is all taken from one session of fucking around with a sampler but... which phaser mod thing? Edited February 23, 2007 by Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD
beneboi Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I know what it is, Im just saying, its running throughout the entire release.
Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) and ARGH, the sampler was used for drums only. tv noises were from tv tuner card. live jams. that is not sampling. that's mixing/processing/mashing/mangling/whatever. Edited February 23, 2007 by Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD
beneboi Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 and ARGH, the sampler was used for drums only. tv noises were from tv tuner card. live jams. that is not sampling. that's mixing/processing/mashing/mangling/whatever. Thats live sampling.
Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 i dont understand why it's sampling. if i hit record and started speaking, that would be spoken word, not sampling. technically, i suppose your wavesforms must be dissected by microscopic digital knives at 44100hz (read: sampled) in order to be recorded, but - then do we generalize, and call a pair of $10k condenser mics over an orchestra sampling? what was my process here? i have a nice beanbag chair. when it seems like a show is going in a direction i'm interested in following, i sit in it, possibly with a frosty alcoholic beverage. at some point, i hit record. i immediately go into EKT mode and start makin' noises happen. sometimes i will set levels and make sure things are working during this time, as i like things to work. i think the key element here is that it is a live performance, of a sort. yes, i set up the synths, program a patch for my sampler (drums + sending out midi to synths).... but then i forget all that and kick ass. i am not using anything prerecorded, just equipment set to known locations (because, after all, once i get going the locations tend to change a bit). i'd say this: if i prerecorded the tv segments, that'd be sampling. but what i have done - going with it is as it comes down my coax line - that's recording.
BCM Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) it is sampling - anything that you record and use in a track is sampling. but anyway...will d/load you tunes and get back to you... Edited February 23, 2007 by BCM
BCM Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) hmmmmm yes, these tracks are well produced i'd say and all have good sound quality and good use of effects etc.. the constant use of Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying though and these tracks would probably be better without him IMO. don't really see what your trying to do as it's kind of ambient/drone type stuff, but with a big pisstaking sample stuck through all of it - doesn't quite work. if you're gonna use silly samples, put 'em in a Bogdan style mentalist jungle tune or something! i will be looking forward to hearing it for one. peace out. Edited February 23, 2007 by BCM
beneboi Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) i'd say this: if i prerecorded the tv segments, that'd be sampling. but what i have done - going with it is as it comes down my coax line - that's recording. Sorry but using things you didnt record originally in your music is sampling. It doesn't make it any less good or fun to listen to. Yes I understand that you are applying live effects to the sounds, thats all well and good, and i would say that yes thats "live jamming with sampled sounds." Edited February 23, 2007 by beneboi
chim Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) dont listen to these idiots theyre just too used to computer noise sampling breakbeat lolol .. if you record a guitar for a track it's not sampling. if you use an existing pre recorded sound it's sampling Edited February 23, 2007 by Derelic7
Guest Emptyhandz Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 FFS this is a stupid argument. A sample is a noise you didn't make yourself, guys. The art of sampling is in choosing rather than creating, like making a collage picture. (You can say "I sampled my piano/guitar/synth/whatever" but really that's incorrect- you recorded it so you could jam with in live would be more accurate)
Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 so is that whale songs cd an album-length sample? honestly i kind of saw it like a synth i'd programmed to make a certain spectrum of random noise. hmmmmm yes, these tracks are well produced i'd say and all have good sound quality and good use of effects etc.. the constant use of Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying though and these tracks would probably be better without him IMO. don't really see what your trying to do as it's kind of ambient/drone type stuff, but with a big pisstaking sample stuck through all of it - doesn't quite work. if you're gonna use silly samples, put 'em in a Bogdan style mentalist jungle tune or something! i will be looking forward to hearing it for one. peace out. well what would it sound like without the ol' sheriff? and how do i set my drum machine to bogdan mentalist jungle? i currently have it set to LOUD. i will also need to know other things: - which pisstaking samp- RECORDING do you recommend applying to the bogdan mentalist jungle? - what tempo does bogdan mentalist junglist tend to be at? - how should i deploy my fx squadroune with tobogdan mentalist jinglist? - bogdan toboggan mentalist dentalist? qc out Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying there's the album review blurb right there Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying Sheriff John Burnell is quite annoying
Bubba69 Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 Sampling has nothing to do with not making something yourself. Sampling is taking an audio input and recording it digitally and plying it back later as part of a mix. So he wasn't sampling anything but the song itself. You can sample a guitar YOU play and play it back with a sampler. I'd call that sampling.
Guest Emptyhandz Posted February 24, 2007 Posted February 24, 2007 does it really matter? still don't agree but it doesn't merit this many posts
beneboi Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 does it really matter? still don't agree but it doesn't merit this many posts I wasn't trying to argue, and im not saying that recording a guitar is sampling. He had a tv on with the output connected to his sampler. He didnt make the show nor did he broadcast it. You tell me what that is.
Guest Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD Posted February 25, 2007 Posted February 25, 2007 (edited) the sampler had nothing to do with the tv. it just played drums. nothing was connected to its input. i was using one stereo output from it, and its midi. by the way, i am taking people's suggestions (read: gripes ) into account and am doing more with less tv presence. still there but if you hear it, it's been processed. before i had the dry signal mixed in some. i think it'll be much more tolerable if we aren't seeing eye to eye on the sheriff john buarhhgnell level, k? Edited February 25, 2007 by Dr. Elemeno von Hat X: PhD
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