Guest Dr. Bunsen Honeydew Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I don't have much to say about this, just picked it up and havent really formed any opinions. The review on pitchfork makes it sound like nobody was happy with rza's production on this, to me so far I've found the production more .. interesting than older rza productions, sounds more like an evolution than a falling off. The general consensus seems to be that RZA has lost his fucking mind. Rap critics, bloggers, and comment-box choirs haven't taken to his strange new mutation-- and that would be a problem even without fellow Clan members Raekwon and Ghostface lashing out at him. Rae complained in an interview with Miss Info that the production on 8 Diagrams "is not the vibe I want," saying RZA was turning into some sort of "hip-hop hippie." Ghost has been down on RZA, too, quoted in The Village Voice as saying the producer's "fumbling the ball...his music wasn't sounding like how it was when we first came in." http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/reco...7534-8-diagrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awkward Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 lol and yet they still keep on churning out the albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 it's not really Wu Tang without the Dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 http://forum.watmm.com/index.php?showtopic=21015 do your work spasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Bunsen Honeydew Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I did a forum search prior to posting the topic ! must figure out how the search works. anyways upon another listen im thinking it just doesn't sound right, still enjoy the production, just not right for a wu tang album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CATS Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 this album seems a lot less minimal then rza's earlier undertakings. track 14 contains mandarin language/ thats gotta be a first for the rza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 It sounds pretty good. Some tracks have a nice depth of production, but with a clarity the earlier-era albums lacked. of course it's not of the same quality as the early stuff, but still pretty enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arbee Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 agreed. that first track is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alban Arthuan Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 agreed. that first track is pretty good. campfire does that album for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 half way through, and it's not bad. better than that general midi crap that RZA was messing with earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velazquez Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 explain "midi crap" if you will. More Links to Rae and ghost dissing RZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 that shizzle he did after the wu-tang forever album on some of those solo joints, didn't like it one bit, sounded too flat. maybe it was due to sample clearance problems he resorted to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velazquez Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 that shizzle he did after the wu-tang forever album on some of those solo joints, didn't like it one bit, sounded too flat. maybe it was due to sample clearance problems he resorted to that. I think the last wu related album that grabbed me was Bobby Digital ( the first one)... yeah I read about the sample clearance issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 the only thing i thought was good was the ODB track. the rest sounded like everyother rap bullshit, 36chambers cant be bettered by the wu-tang... Edit* i thought methodman was the one who stood out from the rest on this album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Caustic Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 i thought it was shite, bar the 2nd track. Second Chris, 36 chambers can't be succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Funny, it doesn't sound like many other contemporary rap albums to me. The fact that it's "not as good as 36 chambers" means nothing. It's not even comparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 i like it wolves especially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrx Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 i like it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CATS Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 its a lot less "catchy rza melody" and much more of an album with holistic production. i'd hate to say it but it may take a few listens to appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldmnfshningakayakoutfalog Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 whens the WUPHEX collab gonna drop?! aph remix of scary hours, the tactics, et al, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FDR Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 I can really only get into wolves and unpredictable, the rest of the tracks were meh. I dont think well ever get another 36 chambers. Even the album art was disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 the problem is not the WU... the problem is all of YOU! everyone is expecting another 36 chambers... the only album in hip hop history that comes close to (or may be even better) is ODB's Return to the 36 Chambers! i always get excited when there's a Wu album... i haven't gotten it yet, but i listened to some samples and i like it so far! although i miss ODB and he was my favorite Wu member, i've always thought Method Man had the best flow... One of the most memorable moments for me on ODB's Return album was when Meth made a cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest serpico009 Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 explain "midi crap" if you will. More Links to Rae and ghost dissing RZA yeah like Zazatoth said, his whole Bobby Digital persona and the songs on those records were based around that bad, preset MIDI sound. There are some excellent tunes on the first Bobby Digital record but it does sound pretty plastic up against 36 chambers or Only Built 4 Cuban Lynx. His solo album under the RZA moniker has alot of cold, MIDI sounding preset shit too, but I think by then he was using that ugly yellow Roland thing that had everything under the sun in one case. Bulletproof Wallets sounds pretty plastic, too. EDIT: and MIDI horns sound like shit, no exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest olson Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 i like it. except for a couple songs most of it is dope and rae and ghostface piss me off with their shit talkin. also the european bonus song tar pit would be sick if george clinton didnt ruin it in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Archrival Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 The album is horrible. 3 good tracks Campfire, Starters and My Guitar Gently Weeps :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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