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43 minutes ago, luke viia said:

I'm confused, what does that Lipsky/DFW book have to do with Hofstadter? 

@Cryptowen just mentioned books read based on the title alone. Although of Course You End Up Becoming Yourself and I am a Strange Loop. I kind of took it on a non sequitur.

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Also starting Dune for the first time! Reading No Country for Old Men as well, seen the movie a couple times, only Cormac McCarthy I haven't read - defo not as dense as his other work but fast pa

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i hate it when i walk into a bookstore & the entire philosophy section is nothing but noam chomsky books. sociology? all chomsky as well. politics? linguistics? oh u better fuckin bet it's our boy

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Weaveworld (Barker obvs)

The last book I read of his was a few years ago was The Great and Secret Show which blew my mind. And here we are off and running from the first chapter, I just love his style of writing. I should definitely read his books far more often than I do.

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37 minutes ago, beerwolf said:

Weaveworld (Barker obvs)

I've been a huge fan of Barker's since I first read the Books of Blood, to me they're the shining example of his amazing visceral writing skill; Volume One (In the Hills, the Cities is my biggest favourite) is just amazing, but the whole series is indispensable. I had to glance at his bibliography to verify, but I have almost everything he's ever written, including graphic novel adaptations (Tapping the Vein being the best, but some one-offs like The Yattering and Jack are fantastic) and comics (all Hellraiser series). There seems to be a new novel (Deep Hill) and short story collection (Fear Eternal) in the works, looking forward to them. Barker's filmography is also dotted with some great ones, Hellraiser and Hellbound especially - there's a new version of The Hellbound Heart coming up which could be interesting.

Any Lovecraft fans around? I obtained the annotated collections of his stories to get more depth, but our year-old is standing fast between me and the wherewithal to read them...

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16 minutes ago, dcom said:

Any Lovecraft fans around? I obtained the annotated collections of his stories to get more depth, but our year-old is standing fast between me and the wherewithal to read them...

Not a fan, but I’ve recently started reading some of his work (the Dunwich Horror, Call of Cthulhu and The Shadow Over Innsmouth). The writing is terrible: archaic, with pathetic attempts at rendering dialects and overly reliant on the thesaurus entry for the word “horrible”. The plots, such as they are, are paper thin and utterly predictable. And his powers of description are all but nonexistent.

But it works. All three stories I read were entertaining and maintained their interest to the very end and The Shadow over Innsmouth especially was a truly gripping bit of horror writing.

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50 minutes ago, rhmilo said:

But it works. All three stories I read were entertaining and maintained their interest to the very end and The Shadow over Innsmouth especially was a truly gripping bit of horror writing.

Lovecraft's language takes a lot of getting used to, but when it starts to work for you it really works. I've been reading his works since early teens, so I don't pay that much attention to it anymore.

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Yes Books of Blood are incredible. Probably due a reread. 
 

 

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It took about a month, but I finally managed to polish off Salman Rushdie's "Midnight's Children".

Yes, it really is that good. The plot keeps racing along, the backdrop is interesting enough (history of India between roughly 1900 and 1980) and even though the cast of characters is spectacularly large there's enough gentle little reminders strewn about to continuously refresh your memory as to who is who.

The language has a whiff of Joyce about it, but not so much that it becomes annoying and mostly enough to make it enjoyable. It has more than a whiff of India to it in the characters' speech patterns and this adds to the fun tremendously. You will also most likely have to look up some words in a dictionary, both because Rushdie is more intimately familiar with his thesaurus than you are and because you, like me, might not know some Indian words. This, too, however, adds to the pleasure of reading this book.

Highly, highly recommended.

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main ones i'm reading rn are joseph schumpeter's capitalism, socialism, and democracy and lewis mumford's technics & civilization

schumpeter gets pretty dry when he gets into technical detail but he does a great job of acting like a wet blanket to pretty much every kind of ideological utopianism. when he gets to the section on democracy, after the first chapter i was like "holy fuck schumpeter put the baseball bat away, he's already dead". and schumpeter (wiping sweat from his brow) replied, "sorry friend, but the people want hamburger helper for dinner"

not super far into the mumford text but it's good so far. feels like it's in the same general realm as ellul, spengler, gebser, maybe a bit of heidegger. nothing radically shocking yet but he does a very good job of consolidating abstract concepts (the kind outlined by the ppl i just mentioned) into a more straightforward 20th century american materialist point of view. his treatment of soldiers feels kinda one-dimensional but other than that no complaints

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I've been reading The Political & Man by Panagiotis Kondylis, an English translation of an unfinished German text written by a Greek man, which thus far has focused largely on social modelling & systems theory

every sentence feels like a frame from star wars the phantom menace

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On 4/16/2021 at 8:28 PM, Cryptowen said:

joseph schumpeter's capitalism, socialism, and democracy 

Just like Marx, Schumpeter weirdly doesn;t account for the adaptability of capitalism or that tech would actually encourage entrepreneurship (OnlyFans is a form of entrepreneurship right?)

But I dunno nothing, I'm reading lowbrow trash - Game of Thrones - so base and easy to read.

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30 minutes ago, chenGOD said:

the adaptability of capitalism or that tech would actually encourage entrepreneurship (OnlyFans is a form of entrepreneurship right?)

dude wtf is this

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4 minutes ago, Alcofribas said:

dude wtf is this

OnlyFans has boobas. 

@Cryptowen I’d recommend reading Barrington Moore’s “Social Origins of Democracy”. Really good and under appreciated book. 

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2 hours ago, chenGOD said:

@Cryptowen I’d recommend reading Barrington Moore’s “Social Origins of Democracy”

ty will check it out!

i'm almost done with Schumpeter now. Overall quite enjoyed it, particularly the way he dismantles popular forms of political idealism just by pointing out basic logical contradictions in their models...I do feel like I'm going to have to read some more contemporary analysises of his work, however, because I'm not sure his notion that Western Capitalism ultimately trends towards bureaucratization, class leveling, and formal adoption of socialism holds up. I mean obviously socialist concepts seem to have really started to catch the public imagination on the right & the left in the last decade, but this seems less like societal evolution & more like the old model of society feeling increasingly unworkable for most. Also I dunno if the reality of ultrawealthy tech overlords, the idea of neofeudalism, and corporations increasingly weighing in on political issues really fits in with the idea of management becoming more diffuse & less motivated to maintain individual power in society.

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Séraphîta, by Honoré de Balzac. One of a few books I've read every 5 years or so since my early 20s. One of a few books I reread that transforms, and always reveals more, with my years of experience—another being Steppenwolf, by Hermann Hesse.

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If in a society a theocentric ideology predominates, then this does not mean that God Himself reigns here, but that humans, who legitimise their deeds by invoking God, prevail; anthropocentrism, for its part, does not take the place of theocentrism because humans now for the first time commandingly walk onto the stage of history (on that stage stand always only humans and nothing else), but because certain humans, by invoking “man”, drive out those who until then laid claim to God; and the decline of anthropocentrism does not mean that there are no humans anymore, but that the world-theoretical stance of those humans who act decisively in the ideological field, is no longer anthropocentric, that, therefore, the champions of anthropocentrism have lost the decisive battle. Scientific anthropology draws its legitimacy from the ascertainment that irrespective of the dominant perceptions on man’s position in the cosmos and on anthropology’s theoretical usefulness, the constitution and the behaviour of the creators and representatives of all these different perceptions exhibit certain uniformities, that, therefore, the forms of the said creators’ thought and action diverge from one another far less than the content and the concrete practical aims. That is why it does not constitute a paradox if one considers social theories to be symptomatic stances of humans in a concrete situation in the history of ideas, whose ideological character manifests itself in the performative contradiction of summoning, for the putting aside of anthropology, forms of action which in other situations are able to serve even opposing aims.

Kondylis is really interesting but also makes me wish I knew how to read German

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OR Books has a May Day sale for a week, all e-books 1 USD, all paperbacks 50 % off. I've bought nearly 50 books from their catalog, so check it out - highly recommended.

 

 

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