awepittance Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 modey whats the exact name of that EMS synth emulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrx Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 synth in a case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 synth in a case? that's the one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 fuck it im going to buy it. I own Reaktor 4 but hilariously the upgrade price to Reaktor 5 is $159! so makes no sense for me to go that route. here i go mother fuckers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I bought it too. I never used Reaktor before but i used to have a nord modular so hopefully the learning curve wont be quite as steep. Anyone want to recommend more ensembles? There's so many that come with reaktor that I dont know when I'll need to build my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 i can't vouch for new stuff on the user library because i havent been there in quite a while but here is what im loving at the moment Aerobic - the closest software thing i've seen to the synthesis platform on the machinedrum. IT is one of the best software synthesizer drum machine grooveboxes in existence at the moment. Limelite - kind of like a korg electribe but more tricked out , great for jamming Grainstates - the classic 'instant ambient' patch that still stands out as being a very powerful sample manipulation tool Echomania - my favorite classic dub echo effect Springtank - great spring reverb emulation Steampipe - an impressive first effort by NI to do a fully featured physical modeling instrument. Metallo - a metal object percussion patch Lifeforms - a biological activity synthesizer, made o sound like insects, birds, water, wind, etc i bolded my favorite patch in here because i just remembered i came to a live show once with absolutely nothing prepared and last minute thought to fire up Aerobic and it was one of the most fun shows i've played. edit: just checking out a Reaktor 5 patch that comes with it called 'sinebeats 2' under 'sequenced synths' (when you right click on the grey background) . i haven't actually tried any of the *.ENS files that come with it yet, i prefer working in Reaktor with *.ISM files so i have more freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 edit: just checking out a Reaktor 5 patch that comes with it called 'sinebeats 2' under 'sequenced synths' (when you right click on the grey background) . i haven't actually tried any of the *.ENS files that come with it yet, i prefer working in Reaktor with *.ISM files so i have more freedom. I am total noob so I dont know what ISM files are. thanks for the tips, will look into those! I wonder why anyone buys other NI synths? Can't you duplicate them in reaktor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 steampipe is excellent. i'll have to check out aerobic too, i have a soft spot for groovebox type arrangements. i'm hoping to build one myself if i ever get good enough at making ensembles. I wonder why anyone buys other NI synths? Can't you duplicate them in reaktor? yeah i was thinking this too. i was trying to decide between fm8 and reaktor, and eventually thought to myself, hang on a minute, i can pretty much do as much fm synthesis as i want in reaktor, and have it sound exactly as i want it! man i really need to get started on the tutorials. it's been a while since i've ventured into the world of modular softsynths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 edit: just checking out a Reaktor 5 patch that comes with it called 'sinebeats 2' under 'sequenced synths' (when you right click on the grey background) . i haven't actually tried any of the *.ENS files that come with it yet, i prefer working in Reaktor with *.ISM files so i have more freedom. I am total noob so I dont know what ISM files are. thanks for the tips, will look into those! I wonder why anyone buys other NI synths? Can't you duplicate them in reaktor? you can in theory duplicate them in Reaktor. I remember a long time ago someone made an Absynth and Spektral delay Reaktor patch. The absynth one was not super close but it was close enough back when Absynth was strictly synthesis with no sample libraries. I'd have to look to see if they are still there. It would take you a while to make a comparable synth to today's FM8 or Absynth , but it's worth a try. think big! quick explanation of ISM vs ENS . If you want a quick and easy user friendly version of Reaktor, ENS files are for you. They require absolutely no patching, once you load them in most of them they are active right from the start. Unless they are a groovebox or sequencer, in that case all you have to do is hit the play button. The reason i prefer ISM files when working in Reaktor is i can have Reaktor jam sessions with drums, synths and sequencers all within the standalone program. When you load something as an ENS it takes over the entire session, an ISM just loads the instrument/effect/whatever into the session and lets you patch it up to other toys edit: the above applies to both the VST /AU plugin Reaktor and the stand alone. One huge benefit to working with Ism files within a sequencer environment like Logic, Cubase or Live is that you can have Reaktor use 8 separate outputs per instance. This gives you 4 stereo channels, on each pair of outs you can load up a different ism format synth or sampler and assign a different midi channel to each one. IF you only loaded prefabricated ENS files you would have to load a new Reaktor plugin instance for each time you wanted to use Reaktor in a song. I find the more Reaktor plugin instances i load the more unstable my songs get, so i prefer to utilize as much out of one plugin instance as i possibly can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 i am just in awe of all these ensembles! I think that I will not try to spend too much time figuring out how it all works and just try to use the ensembles. Each one seems like it would benefit from a lengthy exploration. best $99 i ever spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enki Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Bahaha, all this talk of "*.ISM" files and "*.ENS" files is wonderfully convoluted. I just tried to compose a more concise explanation, but it quickly spiraled out of control not unlike previous attempts. Long story short, RTFM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanarie Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 It was a good deal indeed, so i had just decided to go for it, but it looks like it's over.. back to 379 E again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chunky Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 generator 1 for teh win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanmcallister Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 .ens is like walking into somebody's studio and playing with their toys. .ism is like buying a few bits of gear but you have to wire them up yourself in your own studio (ie. hook them up to your speakers = wiring the .ism instrument to the audio output in reaktor). but ya, definitely RTFM then check out http://www.reaktortips.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 can anyone think of artists who make obvious use of famous reaktor ensembles? I think I've heard Vectory in just about every idm track. You could easily make an album of only vectory preset beats and spacedrone presets and it would sound better than a lot of stuff out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maus Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 tim exile basically wrote vectory (or at least the basic engine behind it.) also, NI develops pretty much everything they make in REAKTOR initially. of course they then code it up proper in C, but it pretty much all starts as ensembles. c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Tech Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 yeah i ended up buying this (mainly because I have wanted Reaktor forever) and it was probably the best purchase i have made for the purposes of creating music.However i haven't started using anything from the library, does anybody have any recommendation for effects that would be good for ambient sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I rarely use Reaktor anymore... Defintely don't build stuff in it... It's just so unintuitive to me... Things that should be simple always end up taking way more effort than it should. Odd quirks and workflow just end up annoying me and I stop. They do have fantastic premade ensembles though... But I don't really use then too much either... Feels kind of lame to have a super customizable platform, but just use other peoples stuff. I know that's kind of BS, but I really like using stuff I've made from scratch... Feels more personal. So long story short ... It's awesome, but not my style. 100 bucks is a retardedly good deal though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I rarely use Reaktor anymore... Defintely don't build stuff in it... It's just so unintuitive to me... Things that should be simple always end up taking way more effort than it should. Odd quirks and workflow just end up annoying me and I stop. They do have fantastic premade ensembles though... But I don't really use then too much either... Feels kind of lame to have a super customizable platform, but just use other peoples stuff. I know that's kind of BS, but I really like using stuff I've made from scratch... Feels more personal. So long story short ... It's awesome, but not my style. 100 bucks is a retardedly good deal though... i just think of it as a great collection of plugins. I dont mind ripping off somebody's preset if i like it. not like i'm making a dime off this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 yeah i ended up buying this (mainly because I have wanted Reaktor forever) and it was probably the best purchase i have made for the purposes of creating music.However i haven't started using anything from the library, does anybody have any recommendation for effects that would be good for ambient sounds? grainstates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 yeah or whitegrains or orangegrains from the user library. Both really good at smearing things up(feed into favorite reverb with long ass tail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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