Guest blicero Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I look forward to yet another WATMM controversial video game technology debate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ATtrImCx4&ttl Hype or the real deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 heh, i was going to post this yesterday. check out their other video, too. http://unlimiteddetailtechnology.com/videos.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Ready to get conned ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 "it's the end of geometry" oh well, that's a shame, nice knowing it tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Looks good to me, though I'm optimistic sucker (no not like that you dirty boy) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muflontillah Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 yet, I will always love vectors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 yeah, not sure if this is vapor or not. but i'd love to see polygons die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mafted Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 nice. sounds like the idTech5 engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 If this goes through it would be like having flying cars or something. Artists will have so much more freedom, then again...more freedom always brings more problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterlingman Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 i like how that guy is attempting to demolish the graphics card industry. he should hire a bodyguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest affliction Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 its inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joyrex Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Hmmm. Dunno - seems like it would require a very powerful CPU to "search" for the point cloud data quickly enough to render a scene. There's still texture resolution as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I would be impressed except in the "unlimited detail" demos nothing is moving and it's a lot of repeated shapes. I want to see it work with animation and lots of varying shapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I would be impressed except in the "unlimited detail" demos nothing is moving and it's a lot of repeated shapes. I want to see it work with animation and lots of varying shapes. true.dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 its inevitable. glad i'm not the only one who was thinking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drahken Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Hmmm, for a company touting how awesome their graphics are that website they run sure looks like a piece of shit. The logo looks like it was compressed to 1996 standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Seems nothing more than branded voxel technology? Voxels are incredibly impractical, creating a game entirely out of voxel data instead of triangles, textures and shaders is madness. Let alone animating all those points. I don't think this technology will get more important as memory bandwidth and CPU power rises. It's just way too hard to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 the detail has to come from somewhere. getting it from somewhere costs CPU, Memory, etc. what was that venture capital truism? "Never invest in anything that violates the laws of physics?" Seems nothing more than branded voxel technology? Voxels are incredibly impractical, creating a game entirely out of voxel data instead of triangles, textures and shaders is madness. Let alone animating all those points. I don't think this technology will get more important as memory bandwidth and CPU power rises. It's just way too hard to work with. he claims an alternative to voxel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 it is a new style of technology as far as I know, the way that it searches through the billions of cloud points like a good search engine searches through billions of pages for at the moment relevancy is pretty interesting. like some have said this technology would probably completely fall apart with detailed animations, physics etc. the Id Tech 5 engine looks like an actual practical approach with a similar idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 it is a new style of technology as far as I know, the way that it searches through the billions of cloud points like a good search engine searches through billions of pages for at the moment relevancy is pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 it is a new style of technology as far as I know, the way that it searches through the billions of cloud points like a good search engine searches through billions of pages for at the moment relevancy is pretty interesting. explain the facepalm.... Excuse me I'm hungover and cant recall seeing any tech demo's for (graphical rendering) engines that were same and especially on that scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Seems nothing more than branded voxel technology? Voxels are incredibly impractical, creating a game entirely out of voxel data instead of triangles, textures and shaders is madness. Let alone animating all those points. I don't think this technology will get more important as memory bandwidth and CPU power rises. It's just way too hard to work with. he claims an alternative to voxel His attempts to make it scale doesn't mean it isn't voxel. It looks to me his "compression" and "search" algorithms are largely based around creating a large number of instances of the same object so he can keep memory usage down. Voxels are a total game-changer. You can't just put a shader on something, it needs to be defined in the voxel data. You can't just rig the model and expect all the points to know how to behave. It's completely unworkable. Even if they'd be able to develop tools for it, the overhead to just render a simple surface is ridiculous. There is no real need for this in gaming anyway. Polycounts will only go up and shaders can add more than enough detail. Look at the most realistic renders today. All polygons. New real-time lightning algorithms are probably the next big step since programmable shaders. Crytek is doing some great stuff with real-time global illumination. Much more important than trying to reinvent the wheel to eliminate slightly visible triangles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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