The Orb - EvilBro Redux

[Guest dougals]

Thanks!

[Guest dougals]

Just got to listen to these, fantastic!

[Guest margaret thatcher]

cheers man! you got any more live recording requests? i feel bad because i found that thread where everyone posted for 20 pages asking me to upload more orb recordings.

[Guest dougals]

cheers man! you got any more live recording requests? i feel bad because i found that thread where everyone posted for 20 pages asking me to upload more orb recordings.

 

I'm eternally grateful for your Orb live uploads. I was browsing through your site, and noticed the following links were dead:

 

2001-05-26 Homelands Festival, Winchester [D]

2001-07-14 Arvikafestivalen, Folkets Park, Arvika, Sweden [D]

2006-05-21 Austin, TX [D]

 

Any chance you can reup those, as you gave them all really good sound quality ratings. So it would be great to be able to hear them.

 

With all this live stuff by the Orb though, all my Orb CDs that I purchased over the years are just sitting there collecting dust (not enough time to listen to them all)!

[Guest dougals]

i also notice on this page you mention Majestic and Thingy are missing - I have a version of this concert with those tracks. Do you want that uploaded to somewhere? Other than that, I can't really see anything in my collection that you don't have (in temrs of live Orb).

[Guest margaret thatcher]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4742966/2001-05-26%20Homelands%20Festival%2C%20Winchester.mp3

homelands festival 2001-05-26

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4742966/2006-05-21%20Austin%2C%20TX.mp3

austin, tx 2006-05-21

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4742966/2001-07-14%20Arvikafestivalen%2C%20Arvika%2C%20Sweden.mp3

arvikafestivalen 2001-07-14

(this one comes from a video - i haven't got enough room in my dropbox for the video at the moment!)

[Guest margaret thatcher]

i also notice on this page you mention Majestic and Thingy are missing - I have a version of this concert with those tracks. Do you want that uploaded to somewhere? Other than that, I can't really see anything in my collection that you don't have (in temrs of live Orb).

 

yeah, that would be great! thanks! that's the 'close encounters of the ultraworld' bootleg, isn't it? where does your source come from?

 

i'm talking with a guy in canada about getting some more tapes and cds, so i'll let you know what develops...

[Guest Greg Reason]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4742966/The%20Orb%20-%20U.F.Orb%20LP%20%28Live%29.mp3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4742966/The%20Orb%20-%20Orbus%20Terrarum%20_%20Orblivion%20%28Live%29.mp3

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4742966/The%20Orb%20-%20Adventures%20%28Live%29.mp3

 

as promised.

 

Fanx Marg, absolute champion!!

 

I had the pleasure of interviewing Alex a few years back, transcript is found here: Orb interview

[Guest margaret thatcher]

that's a pretty cool interview! lx seems to have chilled out a lot lately - usually he's a bit arsey with journalists.

 

here's lx at his arsiest in 1995:

 

Interview with Alex Paterson of the Orb

Civic Hall, Wolverhampton

 

Any plans to go to Chile?

 

AP- I'd like to go there.

 

There was a fairly big rave there for the eclipse last year.

 

AP- I heard lots of talk about it. I originally saw Richard James

being down to headline but I think Psychick warriors ov gaia did it.

 

Any plans after touring?

 

AP- We've got a new album out this week. Give us a break.

 

Are you going to release any old stuff that hasn't been released, like

the Peel sessions? I also heard that you have some stuff on DAT.

 

AP- I won't be releasing that. The first two Peel sessions might come

out as an album. The next two might come out as another album.

 

What happened with 'Thrash'?

 

AP- Musical differences.

 

So how has the Orb changed since he's left?

 

AP- Well, he'd almost left in the last two years, he just stopped

doing interviews and stuff, stopped doing live shows, just wanted to

kill the band and I just got back off my arse and got a couple more

people around me, who were around me when Kris was around. Boring

subject.

 

Yeah?

 

AP- Every day I get asked the same question.

 

Sorry.

 

AP- It's not to be sorry, just think what you're going to ask. I mean

does everybody else ask me the same question.

 

Influences?

 

AP- (Sighs)

 

Don't like that one either?

 

AP- I've been going for so many years now and every time someone asks

me what influences I've had it just sounds like, really

like.....There's no real point in me answering that question. I think

it comes out in the music doesn't it. Unless you don't know what the

Orb sounds like.

 

I would have said it's a lot more ambient now than before. Would you

say that's a fair comment?

 

AP- No, I would say that's more violent.

 

Ambient, as in lacking obvious melodies?

 

AP- Obvious melodies may have been lacking in the first part but

that's not what it's about, it's about drums or less ambient rhythms,

drum lines, that sort of thing. For example, on the first album we

didn't even like to look at that so much especially if you look at

Spanish Castles or Star. That's as far as I want to talk about that.

 

Somebody who wasn't a great fan of the Orb might say that you could do

most of Pomme Fritz and quite a lot of this last album be leaving some

sort of random noise generator on. How would you answer that?

 

AP- Who would I answer that? In two words.

 

What?

 

AP- Fuck off. Does it matter how we make our music. And if I start

telling you how to make our music other people will go and copy us

again. Why do you think we disappeared for two years? Got a bit

boring, people wanting to know what the Orb sound was so they could go

out and recreate it. That's why we changed direction. It was a total

reaction against people like yourself and other people just asking the

most mundane questions about "what's it with us" so that then other

people can copy us, making it substandard and we become cult heroes

and we don't even want to be. We're just doing our own thing.

 

You don't have any plans for world domination then?

 

AP- World domination? That went out fifty years ago.

 

In a musical sense.

 

AP- In the musical sense you can take it or leave it.

 

You don't see yourselves as the Rolling Stones.....

 

AP- No. I don't see myself as the Rolling Stones, you can take it or

leave it. I'm happy selling three thousand copies of records, I'm

happy selling one thousand copies, I'm happy selling a hundred

thousand. I certainly don't go round looking for selling two million

or selling one million records.

 

So you don't have any long term plans like that?

 

AP- What do you mean long term? What's long term plans like that?

 

Well, where do you see yourself in ten years?

 

AP- Mind your own business. What are you going to be doing in ten years time?

 

I would have thought, living in Chile, probably working.

 

AP- That would be nice. I'd quite like to do that. I have things I

would like to do in ten years rather than things I think I must do.

 

Where would you like to be?

 

AP- Right, that's better, that's a different question. What am I going

to be doing and what would I like to be doing, is two different

questions. What would I like to be doing in ten years time? Maybe

living in Chile as well, you never know.

 

You don't have any fixed plans?

 

AP- No!

 

How's the move to Island been?

 

AP- Well, it's more stable.

 

Is that what sparked it off?

 

AP- What sparked it off was that we weren't getting any money out of

Big Life and we were selling bucket loads of records.

 

So it was a financial thing?

 

AP- It's a bit much when people start thinking you're pop stars,

you're doing Top of the Pops and making number one records and you're

not getting fuck all and you've got to DJ and do remixes of other

peoples music to get some money, isn't it?

 

I agree with you.

 

AP- Well, that's why we left. Touchy subject, like most things.

 

You wouldn't have said your music was ambient?

 

AP- What? Now?

 

Now.

 

AP- What's ambient? It's not really ambient at all.

 

So you see yourself as being completely divorced from it? How would

you separate the Orb from ambient?

 

AP- How would I separate the Orb from ambient music? It's Orb music,

that's all it is. I wouldn't say it was separated from

ambient. There's no separation, it's just there.

 

A couple of short question. Did you produce Red Sun?

 

AP- No.

 

And Orb remixes of U2?

 

AP- Ask their record company.

 

So, it's not up to you?

 

AP- I don't own U2.

 

On the album and on the adverts, you've got a World Wide Web

homepage. Does that mean that you're getting in to the internet or is

it just a record company thing?

 

AP- I personally don't feel that there's much need for us to be on the

net, on computers on the net, on terminals. I haven't had the time or

the inkling at the moment really. I'm not based anywhere, I'm not

going to be based anywhere for the next six months. I'll be doing this

every day and I will be doing an interview every day, which I don't

want to.

 

I'm sorry to bore you.

 

AP- I know, I'm sorry but I don't really like doing interviews. I

mean, sorry if I don't like doing interviews. I spent six hours doing

tapes so that people could have interviews, so I didn't have to do

interviews and I still get to do interviews everyday. Sorry to bore

you. Maybe it's your job but.....

 

Back to the internet. Is it something you would get into if you had more time?

 

AP- Well, yeah.

 

So you see it as a positive thing?

 

AP- It's quite a positive thing in terms of restriction's out, borders

will disappear as people can talk freely around the world.

 

So how do you see it affecting society?

 

AP- Affecting society? The internet? For quacks and brain dead people

who are too frightened to talk to each other.

 

You don't see it as a way for people talking....

 

AP- I don't thing the average, every day person in this country would

even know what you're talking about anyway, because they can't afford

it. It's a rich kids toy, man.

 

I use it through the university.

 

AP- It's still widely a rich kid's toy, European and American and the

Japanese. World wide, that's just the rich society playing games. It's

not real life. Been to India? Must have been, what with that T-shirt.

 

This was brought back by my sister from Thailand.

 

AP- Thailand's not India.

 

I've seen Chile, Peru and Argentina, very different from here. I have

to say I can't see it reaching a lot of people in Peru, for

example. So you see it as a way of the northern hemisphere excluding

everyone else.

 

AP- They're not excluding everyone else, it's just something that's

exclusive to themselves. They don't know that, though, people who do

it, they don't see the whole world. Americans, North American, USA

people haven't got a fucking clue outside of the United State of

America, let alone Mexico, let alone Canada, let alone Europe, let

alone China, let alone wherever.

 

I saw a recent thing where the majority of Americans thought central

America was Kansas. You object to that sort of thing.

 

AP- Most of them think the third world is outer space.

 

You think people should be, not made to, but very much encouraged to

broaden their horizons?

 

AP- That's not my fault.

 

No. I'm asking you if you think that should happen.

 

AP- Through the work of computers that could actually happen but it's

not fulfilling every body's dreams.

 

So you think it's gone sour, if it ever was "fresh"?

 

AP- It's a big pile of shit, ever since thirteenth century white

domination of the world and it's still going on.

 

You feel you want to change it?

 

AP- I feel that I'm trying to change, I think that the Orb's doing as

much as it can to change that sort of thing, being non-political. I

don't think we should become political to change anything. That's

really not what it's about, going out and listening to records, is it?

Don't think it is anyway. It can become a vehicle for people who have

left-wing or right-wing ideas that then fuck up everybody who just

want to listen to music. That's not fair either.

 

So you don't think politics has a place in music?

 

AP- I don't think politics has a place in music. If you want to use it

as a free roll to get more publicity to sell your records. I don't

know. There are certain elements that you should stand up for. I had

this huge argument yesterday with another journalist who was saying

"why doesn't the Orb stand against the Criminal Justice Bill?". I just

told him to fuck off because I don't want the Orb to become a

political band. I couldn't believe it. "You should use the Orb as a

vehicle for that". Why should I use the Orb as a vehicle for that? The

Orb is the Orb. Orb likes people, Orb goes to bed with people, Orb

goes home with people, the Orb is listened and surrendered to in our

own homes and they get into it that way. Not getting off Orb political

statements.

 

So who is it that decides what the Orb is? Just yourself?

 

AP- At the end of the day, yeah.

 

Purely Alex Paterson?

 

AP- It was a vehicle, in the very beginning, for myself and I let

other people go on board, like Kris, like Youth, like Jimmy, but at

the end of the day it's me. And I might let other people get on. At

the end of the day it is myself who says yes or no. I will listen to

other people and they can change my mind, I listen to them.

 

How much would you say other people influence the way you decide?

 

AP- Someone does my artwork very, very well.

 

The artwork on the last album, was that something you were involved

with? Or did somebody just come out with it?

 

AP- What like the impossible square?

 

Yeah, that and the maps and stuff.

 

AP- Well, yeah.

 

So you're involved in all aspects?

 

AP- Artistically, not politically. Music is a form of art. I believe

somebody said that.

 

But you don't think that's true?

 

AP- What? Music isn't a form of art? I think it is.

 

What do you think of music groups that do it for politics or money.

 

AP- Musical record companies do it for money.

 

What's your opinion of them?

 

AP- I don't like the idea of someone who goes home every day, who has

no idea whatsoever, and goes home and listens to some kak band that

I've got no intention of ever thinking about listening to, who spends

the day trying to work on the Orb project. It doesn't make any sense

whatever to me. 9 out of 10 people in record companies don't even like

music, so why the fuck they've got a job there I don't know. It's

purely on a business level, to shift units. It's great.

 

So you can't see yourself becoming part of a major label?

 

AP- I've tried to get my head round it and it's not very nice.

 

Have you had any dealings with them at all?

 

AP- I don't want to talk about it because at the end of the day

they'll probably end up reading it.

 

But this is for printing in Chile.

 

AP- Yeah, but you never know. "It's going to be printed in Japan, say

what you want".

 

So you think that something printed in Chile would.....

 

AP- No, not at all.

 

So you're not being entirely, not honest, but forthcoming?

 

AP- About what? Record companies? I just told you about record companies.

 

About things in general.

 

AP- I've been very forthcoming, I think. I've been negative about it,

but I've been forthcoming in my negativity about it, for sure.

 

So you're very negative about everything?

 

AP- No. I'm just negative about the questions you're asking me. Is

that all right? I'm not negative about anything when I don't want to

be.

 

At this point I gave up with any more question. Obviously not getting very far.

[Guest Greg Reason]

Fucking classic interview. Glad he went easy on me

[Guest dougals]

 

yeah, that would be great! thanks! that's the 'close encounters of the ultraworld' bootleg, isn't it? where does your source come from?

 

 

Here is link to it.Not sure lineage - sorry, gotta rush to work. Will try post more details later.

[Guest margaret thatcher]

cheers man - spanish castles is corrupt in the rar file though mate, any chance of just reuploading that one file?

[Guest dougals]

cheers man - spanish castles is corrupt in the rar file though mate, any chance of just reuploading that one file?

 

I'll have a look at it when I get home. I'm a bit worried that the original has got corrupted. Anyhow, I'll let you know how I go.

[Guest dougals]

Hey, uploaded Spanish Castles to here. This should be fine. Let me know if any probs.

 

Oh, and thanks Thatch for the re-uploads. Listening to the Sweden one right now.

[Guest margaret thatcher]

thanks mate, you're a legend! just listening now - really cool to have the extra tracks.

 

if you come across any other recordings that i might not have, let me know!

[Guest dougals]

thanks mate, you're a legend! just listening now - really cool to have the extra tracks.

 

if you come across any other recordings that i might not have, let me know!

 

Are you only interested in live Orb stuff (i.e. Orb playing Orb tracks) or are you also interested in DJ sets by Alex?

 

I'm also making the assumption that all the Orb sets listed on your site you have the actual live set on MP3 (or whatever format)?

[Guest margaret thatcher]

yeah, i'm interested in everything! i have a couple of orb dj sets...

 

1998-01-08 jjj

2002-04-28 annie nightingale show

2003-05-26 global dj broadcast

2004-05-02 annie on one

2004-05-16 bbc 6mix

2006-09-01 the warehouse

2009-09-10 bbc 6mix

 

probably loads i don't have though!

 

and yeah, i have all the recordings i've listed - i've just uploaded 90% of them now.

[Guest dougals]

yeah, i'm interested in everything! ...

 

probably loads i don't have though!

 

and yeah, i have all the recordings i've listed - i've just uploaded 90% of them now.

 

Well, I think I can definitely provide you with a great deal then. I gotta collate the list, but there willbe no problem for you to find stuff you don't have. The main problem is getting it to you. I'll send a list once collated.

[Guest Greg Reason]

Woo I'd be very keen to get the 2008-11-29 Global Gathering Brisbane show, twas the only time I've been fortunate enough to see them live and despite the fact that it was in glaring daylight, it was a very enjoyable set.

[Guest margaret thatcher]

i don't have that recording, mate. i'm not sure that's out in public yet....i'll see what i can do!

[Guest Greg Reason]

Thanks mate!

 

Yeah we objected to them getting put on during the early afternoon but the organizers were having none of it. It was the most poorly run festival I've ever been to, redeemed only by the fact that The Orb and Kraftwerk kicked so much ass. Other than that was a fucking shambles!

[keltoi]

i've been playing the fuck out of these mixes over the last 2 weeks.

[Guest spike]

ahhh shit,, leaving on a long road trip sooon,, can't figure out how to grab these mixes, someone pLEASEEEEE upload them to some place like mediafire or rapid share,,, please god.

[keltoi]

ahhh shit,, leaving on a long road trip sooon,, can't figure out how to grab these mixes, someone pLEASEEEEE upload them to some place like mediafire or rapid share,,, please god.

 

quote maggie's posts, copy the url where the player is into your browser window, go to file>save page as, download orb motherload goodness.

[Guest spike]

files are gone! i have until sunday for a miracle.