Autechre getting into electronic music composition

[Guest cuntainer]

i intend to buy some gear some time in the near future and am not sure what i should buy.

 

i was playing with a friends gear the other night while on a mescaline trip and they were cool:

 

http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?&pd=414

http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?&pd=128

 

but another friend suggested i get a synth or midi controller with weighted keys, and i agree they would be better, which that synth doesn't have.

 

i'm also going to buy a macbook, i was thinking of going all out and getting the macbook pro 17", but do i need this? would a macbook pro 15" be sufficient? or even a normal macbook?

 

i really know nothing about hardware at this stage.

 

but mainly what i was interested in getting was some sort of macbook, a synth/midi controller, condenser mic, and then i'll see how i go from there, maybe when i get more money a drum pad would be good like the one i linked, but again i dont really know.

 

what i am interested in creating, is just random electronic shit or ambience. the shit i'm into is like autechre, aphex twin, boc, bjork, whole bunch of other shit, but i enjoy making long pieces of music, 20-40 minutes, just random shit really.

 

i can upload what i recorded that night i was using the gear if anyone is interested, but i dont really know a website to upload it to either, and dont expect it to be any good, i enjoy it myself but who knows what anyone else would think..

 

thanks for your time.

[Guest wake]

i intend to buy some gear some time in the near future and am not sure what i should buy.

 

i was playing with a friends gear the other night while on a mescaline trip and they were cool:

 

http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?&pd=414

http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?&pd=128

 

but another friend suggested i get a synth or midi controller with weighted keys, and i agree they would be better, which that synth doesn't have.

 

i'm also going to buy a macbook, i was thinking of going all out and getting the macbook pro 17", but do i need this? would a macbook pro 15" be sufficient? or even a normal macbook?

 

i really know nothing about hardware at this stage.

 

but mainly what i was interested in getting was some sort of macbook, a synth/midi controller, condenser mic, and then i'll see how i go from there, maybe when i get more money a drum pad would be good like the one i linked, but again i dont really know.

 

what i am interested in creating, is just random electronic shit or ambience. the shit i'm into is like autechre, aphex twin, boc, bjork, whole bunch of other shit, but i enjoy making long pieces of music, 20-40 minutes, just random shit really.

 

i can upload what i recorded that night i was using the gear if anyone is interested, but i dont really know a website to upload it to either, and dont expect it to be any good, i enjoy it myself but who knows what anyone else would think..

 

thanks for your time.

[BCM]

sounds like you want to spend a shit load of money on something. don't do this until you're sure you actually like making music, can get to grips with electronic music composition and aren't just going through a fad because your friend's got some gear and it's a good laugh to mess around on.

 

to this end, just get some software to run on your current PC/Mac - FL Studio, Cubase, Logic, Reaper, EnergyXT - there's loads. download a load of freeware VST instruments and away you go. try and make some tunes with this setup before you spend serious money on something that will possibly end up in the attic after a month.

 

edit: you see, the thing that always bothers me about these threads is that you can't be that serious about music making or you'd be doing it already using anything you can get your hands on. i have had to resort to making music on an old P166 IBM Aptiva running Fruity Loops 3 (barely) in the past, but did it because I HAVE to make music sometimes - I would have used pots and pans if I had to. these treads about "what shall I buy?" are exactly that - you just want to buy something. not because you want to make music per se, but because (in your case) you've had a go on your mate's gear and think it's cool and like all the flashy lights. if you're so into the idea of music making, you don't need to spend money mate - you have everything you need already.

[Guest Ian]

I got no idea of hardware but as far as macs go you want a macbook pro instead of macbook for the firewire interface. Get the size of screen you want. Bigger screen is easier to navigate and see stuff, but smaller will suffice if you don't care. I use 13". Get the most powerful cpu and largest memory you can happily afford.

[Guest cuntainer]

sounds like you want to spend a shit load of money on something. don't do this until you're sure you actually like making music, can get to grips with electronic music composition and aren't just going through a fad because your friend's got some gear and it's a good laugh to mess around on.

 

to this end, just get some software to run on your current PC/Mac - FL Studio, Cubase, Logic, Reaper, EnergyXT - there's loads. download a load of freeware VST instruments and away you go. try and make some tunes with this setup before you spend serious money on something that will possibly end up in the attic after a month.

 

nah i've been serious about music composition for years, but started off with guitar/piano, been wanting to get electronic gear for ages but couldn't afford it before.

 

my biggest passion is music.

[BCM]

I got no idea of hardware but as far as macs go you want a macbook pro instead of macbook for the firewire interface. Get the size of screen you want. Bigger screen is easier to navigate and see stuff, but smaller will suffice if you don't care. I use 13". Get the most powerful cpu and largest memory you can happily afford.

 

no. see my comments above. you don't need a macbook fucking pro at all. jesus, they're like £1200+ I'm actually serious about music making and use a standard Macbook (which cost me about £750 a few years ago) and it is more than sufficient for mine, and 99% of anyone else's needs.

 

sounds like you want to spend a shit load of money on something. don't do this until you're sure you actually like making music, can get to grips with electronic music composition and aren't just going through a fad because your friend's got some gear and it's a good laugh to mess around on.

 

to this end, just get some software to run on your current PC/Mac - FL Studio, Cubase, Logic, Reaper, EnergyXT - there's loads. download a load of freeware VST instruments and away you go. try and make some tunes with this setup before you spend serious money on something that will possibly end up in the attic after a month.

 

nah i've been serious about music composition for years, but started off with guitar/piano, been wanting to get electronic gear for ages but couldn't afford it before.

 

my biggest passion is music.

 

good. download a DAW and some VSTs and get started!

[Guest cuntainer]

I got no idea of hardware but as far as macs go you want a macbook pro instead of macbook for the firewire interface. Get the size of screen you want. Bigger screen is easier to navigate and see stuff, but smaller will suffice if you don't care. I use 13". Get the most powerful cpu and largest memory you can happily afford.

 

no. see my comments above. you don't need a macbook fucking pro at all. jesus, they're like £1200+ I'm actually serious about music making and use a standard Macbook (which cost me about £750 a few years ago) and it is more than sufficient for mine, and 99% of anyone else's needs.

 

 

the thing is, when i am going to buy something, i dont want to buy something mid-range, and then after some period of time realise i need to upgrade it, that is why i was going for the pro, but that is exactly why i asked what would be sufficient. yeah i can easily see where your coming from, but to be fair, you dont really know who i am, i am not just someone who gets an idea in their head about wanting to buy something cause it's cool and then gets sick of it after a short period of time, i have wanted to get this shit for years, i have used fruity loops before and a few other programs, but i actually want good shit, my pc is fucked and freezes if i use programs like that, i want some quality gear, this isn't something out of the blue.

[Guest Ian]

 

no. see my comments above. you don't need a macbook fucking pro at all. jesus, they're like £1200+ I'm actually serious about music making and use a standard Macbook (which cost me about £750 a few years ago) and it is more than sufficient for mine, and 99% of anyone else's needs.

 

but there isnt firewire interface on macbooks though is there? Which means you're stuck with usb for the hard drive, no? or internal. dont you get lag with audio?

[BCM]

fair enough, get a MacBook pro!

 

 

no. see my comments above. you don't need a macbook fucking pro at all. jesus, they're like £1200+ I'm actually serious about music making and use a standard Macbook (which cost me about £750 a few years ago) and it is more than sufficient for mine, and 99% of anyone else's needs.

 

but there isnt firewire interface on macbooks though is there? Which means you're stuck with usb for the hard drive, no? or internal. dont you get lag with audio?

 

I'm lucky enough to have an older model MacBook, which does have FireWire... but there's nothing wrong with USB audio interfaces and you won't get any lag if you set it up correctly.

[Chris Moss Acid]

get a drum machine (alesis sr-16) and a polysynth (Jupiter 8 (or an esq-1 like i use)) learn how to sequence on multiple minichannels on the polysynth and win.

[soundwave]

2nd hand Monomachine mk1 and a Kaoss Pad 3

 

you can do a lot of wild shit very quickly and easily with just these two

[Guest cuntainer]

i have a lot to think about, i might just hit up ebay for all 2nd hand gear, if anyone was in my position, would they be averse to buying a 2nd hand macbook pro?

[Guest Adam]

i intend to buy some gear some time in the near future and am not sure what i should buy.

 

i was playing with a friends gear the other night while on a mescaline trip and they were cool:

 

http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?&pd=414

http://www.korg.com/product.aspx?&pd=128

 

but another friend suggested i get a synth or midi controller with weighted keys, and i agree they would be better, which that synth doesn't have.

 

i'm also going to buy a macbook, i was thinking of going all out and getting the macbook pro 17", but do i need this? would a macbook pro 15" be sufficient? or even a normal macbook?

 

i really know nothing about hardware at this stage.

 

but mainly what i was interested in getting was some sort of macbook, a synth/midi controller, condenser mic, and then i'll see how i go from there, maybe when i get more money a drum pad would be good like the one i linked, but again i dont really know.

 

what i am interested in creating, is just random electronic shit or ambience. the shit i'm into is like autechre, aphex twin, boc, bjork, whole bunch of other shit, but i enjoy making long pieces of music, 20-40 minutes, just random shit really.

 

i can upload what i recorded that night i was using the gear if anyone is interested, but i dont really know a website to upload it to either, and dont expect it to be any good, i enjoy it myself but who knows what anyone else would think..

 

thanks for your time.

 

 

Get macbook, midi controller and a digital recorder instead of a condenser mic.

[Guest cuntainer]

why a digital recorder over a condenser mic?

 

i want to be able to sample any sound, like sounds of nature (rain, wind, thunder, etc), sounds of machines, etc, plus my jams with what ever instruments as well.

[BCM]

Jupiter 8

 

lol

[o00o]

why a digital recorder over a condenser mic?

 

i want to be able to sample any sound, like sounds of nature (rain, wind, thunder, etc), sounds of machines, etc, plus my jams with what ever instruments as well.

 

buy schoeps and you are good

[chassis]

What ever you do dont just pirate a DAW like ableton.

[luke viia]

what is all this crap about macbooks?

 

since when do you need a brand new mac laptop to make music?

 

and since when is firewire necessary? usb is fine. correct the latency and everything runs smooth as eggs.

 

 

 

you're already on a computer. get a DAW and you'll be able to make electronic music.

[Guest cuntainer]

what is all this crap about macbooks?

 

since when do you need a brand new mac laptop to make music?

 

and since when is firewire necessary? usb is fine. correct the latency and everything runs smooth as eggs.

 

 

 

you're already on a computer. get a DAW and you'll be able to make electronic music.

 

i want a laptop anyway, and macs exceed any other laptops, especially for what i want to use it for.

 

and i previously stated i was going for 2nd hand gear

[luke viia]

the thing is, when i am going to buy something, i dont want to buy something mid-range, and then after some period of time realise i need to upgrade it, that is why i was going for the pro, but that is exactly why i asked what would be sufficient. yeah i can easily see where your coming from, but to be fair, you dont really know who i am, i am not just someone who gets an idea in their head about wanting to buy something cause it's cool and then gets sick of it after a short period of time, i have wanted to get this shit for years, i have used fruity loops before and a few other programs, but i actually want good shit, my pc is fucked and freezes if i use programs like that, i want some quality gear, this isn't something out of the blue.

 

while that is understandable for laptops and the like, as far as most other music-related hardware goes, you don't have to worry about that quite so much. you can almost always re-sell any worthwhile equipment you own and get a good chunk of your money back, which you can then use for upgrading to something else.

 

for instance, i bought a yamaha ps-55 keyboard on craigslist last year for $100. now I'm upgrading. I'll list the yamaha on craigslist for $100.

 

i guess what i'm trying to say here is, don't make this more expensive than it has to be.

[luke viia]

i want a laptop anyway, and macs exceed any other laptops, especially for what i want to use it for.

 

and i previously stated i was going for 2nd hand gear

 

well if you want a laptop anyway, that's cool... but i hate to break it to you - macs are, as far as I have seen, no better at music production than a decent PC. In fact, most free VSTs/plugins for DAWs are based solely in windows. I only know that because a buddy of mine keeps whining about how nothing is supported on his mac (he bought it for music production, by the way). I don't own a mac anymore (grew up on them and found the lack of interesting software most disturbing), so I don't know how it all really goes down.

 

i could be totally wrong, i dunno. I just hate paying high prices.

[Guest cuntainer]

the thing is, when i am going to buy something, i dont want to buy something mid-range, and then after some period of time realise i need to upgrade it, that is why i was going for the pro, but that is exactly why i asked what would be sufficient. yeah i can easily see where your coming from, but to be fair, you dont really know who i am, i am not just someone who gets an idea in their head about wanting to buy something cause it's cool and then gets sick of it after a short period of time, i have wanted to get this shit for years, i have used fruity loops before and a few other programs, but i actually want good shit, my pc is fucked and freezes if i use programs like that, i want some quality gear, this isn't something out of the blue.

 

while that is understandable for laptops and the like, as far as most other music-related hardware goes, you don't have to worry about that quite so much. you can almost always re-sell any worthwhile equipment you own and get a good chunk of your money back, which you can then use for upgrading to something else.

 

for instance, i bought a yamaha ps-55 keyboard on craigslist last year for $100. now I'm upgrading. I'll list the yamaha on craigslist for $100.

 

i guess what i'm trying to say here is, don't make this more expensive than it has to be.

 

 

this is fantastic advice.

 

 

exactly the reason why i like to ask questions of forums.

 

but i definitely want something portable, hence laptop, and i've used a few laptops, ones my dad has got, and they just fuck up after 2 years or less and you need a new one, and macs last for years and are still good after years and the battery last 3 times as long, and they run smoother and dont freeze from too many programs, definitely keen for a mac.

[Guest Adam]

why a digital recorder over a condenser mic?

 

i want to be able to sample any sound, like sounds of nature (rain, wind, thunder, etc), sounds of machines, etc, plus my jams with what ever instruments as well.

 

Because digital recorders usually have 2 condenser mics inside them so you can record beautiful stereo sounds of nature and machines etc, plus your jams. And you can have it all in your pocket.

[Guest cuntainer]

why a digital recorder over a condenser mic?

 

i want to be able to sample any sound, like sounds of nature (rain, wind, thunder, etc), sounds of machines, etc, plus my jams with what ever instruments as well.

 

Because digital recorders usually have 2 condenser mics inside them so you can record beautiful stereo sounds of nature and machines etc, plus your jams. And you can have it all in your pocket.

 

sold

[Guest jim]

get spear by michael klingbeil. it's free.