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what level did you take, gcse, a-level, degree, master...(or foreign equivalent qualification)?

why did you choose it? was it worth it? do you think it's a worthwhile subject?

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It's quite a broad subject area - it covers various aspects of economics, law, global politics etc.. Yes I thought it was worthwhile. I did a GCSE equivelant course (distance learning) on certain topics that sociology discusses and analyses for a period of just under one year - now concentrating on psychology which is a tangent of sociology (social sciences), there are still many things covered in pyschology which sociology touches on. I like how it shows the impact that many different institutions in society has over people's identities, also discusses rates of consumption in the world, equality vs stratification, epidemiological studies..

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My impression is that sociologists have massive inferiority complexes compared to the real scientists, and that they spend most of their time trying to justify their own profession rather than study anything worthwhile.

 

That's probably true of most of the arts though.

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My impression is that sociologists have massive inferiority complexes compared to the real scientists, and that they spend most of their time trying to justify their own profession rather than study anything worthwhile.

 

That's probably true of most of the arts though.

 

a good sociologist will ask who defines what is real science :emotawesomepm9:

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xxx - your line of reasoning is exactly why universities became diploma mills - and I find it especially true in America. It leads to the treatment of universities as little more than glorified vocational schools.

The worst thing to ever happen to the educational world was the rise in importance of the MBA. That, more than anything in my opinion, led to the view that a liberal arts degree is simply a means to an end, rather than somtehing to be valued in its own right. Of course, the criterion that you used to define the worth is also interesting: "a mechanic or a nurse can make more than a Doctorate holder in the social sciences". While I am not arguing that the work of a mechanic or nurse is less important than that of a sociologist, it does speak volumes as to how the modern world values education.

 

Bread - sociology does not equal "social sciences. Sociology is a subset of the social sciences. Psychology can also be considered a subset of the social sciences, although to some degree it is a science in its own right.

 

And to anyone who thinks that it is not a science, I urge you to look at that rigorous statistical analysis that informs good sociology. While qualitative sociology can be of value, quantitative sociology is, simply put, much easier to apply to social issues. That might seem counter-intuitive, but putting empirical data against cultural and qualitative observations is a non-starter.

I do wish that sociologists would study more history and economics though.

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Bread - sociology does not equal "social sciences. Sociology is a subset of the social sciences. Psychology can also be considered a subset of the social sciences, although to some degree it is a science in its own right.

That's my fault; I was meant to say I was grouping psychology and sociology within the social sciences as subsets - I don't consider sociology = the social sciences

 

And to anyone who thinks that it is not a science, I urge you to look at that rigorous statistical analysis that informs good sociology. While qualitative sociology can be of value, quantitative sociology is, simply put, much easier to apply to social issues. That might seem counter-intuitive, but putting empirical data against cultural and qualitative observations is a non-starter.

I do wish that sociologists would study more history and economics though.

agreed - very well put

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It's weird, cause I know at my school the sociology and anthropology departments are both growing in size, and I see plenty of job postings from around North America in my capacity as office grunt (and to all the undergrad students here - check if your school has workstudy programs, the pay is pretty good for part time work). I guess it's in the smaller state schools where it's hard to find work?

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Chunky, most of the shit you spout in here falls into the bracket of sociology.

No, don't be so bloody stupid. Most of what I write is about politics, law, and history. In amongst having to waste time in a pointless war of attrition against false and malicious allegations by people who attribute beliefs to me that I don't actually think or believe.

 

Come on people, stop bullshitting the world. Sociology is a giant Marxist fraud, and no amount of complicated mathematics is going to prove otherwise.

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