Guest Jimbob Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Right i've basically been meaning to get a new computer for nearly a year now, and this four year old HP is kinda slowing me down a bit. I run Ableton 7 (soon to be 8) and am gonna be spunking a load of money on a new machine. I'm about to come into a bit of money so i'm prepared to spend a bit, but the main thing that puts me off going for a Mac is the whole VST/AU thing. I've done a little bit of research and come across FXpansion, but it doesn't look to conclusive, and i'm really looking for some advice from those of you who i'm sure have made the transition. Will I be able to salvage my glorious collection of plugins? I've no plans to get into Logic anytime soon either btw Cheers WATMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 You should definitely get a Mac. That is, if you dont mind having your heterosexuality questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I changed to mac but I don't use plugins, so I'd imagine if you want to keep them you should think twice before stepping up to greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Can see where this thread is going already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 macs are a ripoff. i like the os a lot more than windows but its just not worth the money for an underpowered computer. youre basically just paying for the look of the machine, the brand name and the os. the insides of a 2000 dollar mac are less powerful than a pc you could get / make for less than a grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I heard that Macs are slower and more susceptible to viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 i'm looking to spend under £1000 but the main issue is VSTs. Anyone on here run Ableton on a Mac? I can't be arsed if it means I have to change my workflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 http://www.tweakheadz.com/Mac_vs_Pc_DAWS.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scrambled Ears Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 youre basically just paying for the os. look...the only reason I would get a PC anymore is if you're big on gaming. forget about the VSTs and what not. many great plug-ins go both ways and if there is really something you cant live without you can also run boot camp and have Win 7 run on your mac...then you can take the samples from w.e VST and carry them over to your DAW on Mac OS. TBH the only thing I really miss from PC is soulseek and soundforge edit: and yes I had used iSoul for a while and it was the tits but its mysteriously stopped working and I've tried everything! alpha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessier Ashpool Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Disclaimer: Opinions are like assholes, and I have one. I think you can get a lot more for less on a PC and, frankly, I think Apple has abandoned the "hardcore user" market. I've had some bad experiences with their hardware, as have friends of mine who do primarily Graphic Design. Seems like maxing out what you do on a Mac leads to serious hardware issues down the line, their "tech support" is probably less educated than you, and their warranties are a ripoff. Don't get me wrong, they are pure sex, and there is a lot of "user friendliness" if you just want a home computer, but I really would steer away from them if you are going to be investing time in making music on it (especially if you have a lot of VST's etc. you have collected over the years that you like). You'll save yourself money and, although there are issues with any system, I think that PC's tend to have more options in regards to upgrading/third party software/etc. Basically, everything Maximus said I concur with. PS Someone please feel free to quote the first line and change the "I have on" to "I am one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Yeah PCs for the win. Yesterday my PC was acting screwy so I de-fragged my HD but I wasen't happy with the overall performance. So I was able to go into my BIOS and make a RAID strip for my two harddrives. After that I just updated a few registry settings, ran Adaware, and bam, now my PC is running fine next to all the bloat-ware I got my new Dell. The PC is streamlined to keep you making music, and not spending all day long installing adobe updates and performing mindless maintenance tasks. Not to mention that when there are problems with my PC, I have THE BEST of THE BEST costumer service to help me through all these tiny issues and details, all while being able to navigate through the draconian Windows policies and stable hardware drivers I don't need to update at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scrambled Ears Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 lol is that /thread of just the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Cheers guys, some helpful info here, probably just confirming what I already suspected though. One of my best mates works for PC World/Currys so it's in his interest to sell me a shiny new Mac, the prick Currently though it's a toss up between a HP with an i3 or an i5 for an extra £100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 i5 is definitely worth the extra 100. Ive an i9 though so Im ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Good. Had me worried then Chassis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 youre basically just paying for the os. look...the only reason I would get a PC anymore is if you're big on gaming. forget about the VSTs and what not. many great plug-ins go both ways and if there is really something you cant live without you can also run boot camp and have Win 7 run on your mac...then you can take the samples from w.e VST and carry them over to your DAW on Mac OS. TBH the only thing I really miss from PC is soulseek and soundforge edit: and yes I had used iSoul for a while and it was the tits but its mysteriously stopped working and I've tried everything! alpha but this doesnt change what i said, you are just paying twice as much as you normally would for an OS.. thats like 1000 dollars difference. the OS might be great, but its not that great. and windows 7 has caught up in a lot of aspects. PS. get soulseex, i used it on my mac and when i switched to pc i found soulseek was total crap compared to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scrambled Ears Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 nah doesnt change your point...as far as ssx goes...i have had no luck with that and I've spent a deal of time trying to open the correct ports to no ado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 you just have to change the port to 2242 thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iamabe Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 im buildinga desktop pc in a few weeks and im excited about soulseek... its windows only, rite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 no , soulseex is for mac and in my opinion is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iamabe Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 i have no idea why i have nver once tried searching "soulseek mac" is this for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scrambled Ears Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 you just have to change the port to 2242 thats it its working decent now but results are still really slow and directories display file names at the end of the string and a click down rarely displays respective folder like you might expect what do you have set for your preferred port and port range? edit: also has the basic server address changed? i saw something about soulseek users migrating to a new server, presumably not the test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I like how one of the major factors in considering a new laptop seems to be how well you can connect to soulseek. You guys are filthy thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iamabe Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I like how one of the major factors in considering a new laptop seems to be how well you can connect to soulseek. You guys are filthy thieves. tell me where the fuck i can buy anything by EOD that isn't Kvist003 and I won't use soulseek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scrambled Ears Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I like how one of the major factors in considering a new laptop seems to be how well you can connect to soulseek. You guys are filthy thieves. download mp3s to test buy vinyl cd is a shit medium...highs are clipped, less control and interaction, prone to scratches skips etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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