Guest Promo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 With all the free software and countless DJs/producers etc and Youtube promotion saturation is music just becoming too easy and too throwaway now or am I just being too pessimistic? What are your thoughts guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Music's always been easy to make. It's just electronic music in particular that's gone from "mysterious ultra-complex space sounds" to "shit everyone does when they're 13 before they join a real band" in the last decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 It's no easier to write a shitty electronic tune than it is to write a shitty folk song. Punk song. Pop song. If you're listening to shitty music, that's a personal problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 There's definitely more shit to sift through, since the widespread use of internet removes the filter that the media last had in the 90's. But since there's more resources, some voices can be heard that otherwise would not. This can be good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Yes, much too easy. Any arsehole who can torrent an illegal copy of reason now thinks that they're the next aphex twin. It completely negates the positive aspects of the internet (ie. giving people access to less popular and more interesting sounds). Also music software has a huge amount of preset functions. For this reason I'll respectfully disagree with whoever it was that said it was just as easy to make bad folk/ punk music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Its easier to make shitty electronic for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfhVbHj4mPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I've always maintained that electronic as a genre has this weird way of producing some of the best & worst of music, & that anyone has the potential to do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 i think music got too easy to make when sampling became so prevalent not that there isn't any good music using samples... but think puff daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Shut the fuck up. ^ that was my first thought on the matter. The second, was that I wrote a journal entry about this subject (and why you are wrong) many months ago, so I'll go post that when I get home tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 i think it's great. what's the alternative? learn guitar? lots of people have fun making music regardless if they are going to become notorious in a scene or not. it's like creative people picking up a pen or a camera, 's alllll good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Domt exactly see why there's a problem, never really thought that making music should be hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I was just thinking about this the other day-- making music is becoming less of a 'lucky people with money' or 'jobless hippy losers in a garage' kind of thing, and a more mainstream, acceptable and normal thing. Which, as already stated, means more good music as well as bad. But one person's good isn't another's, so it's all good in some form to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Who gives a shit, no one is forcing you to listen to the shit music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maus Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 yeah it's easier to make music. it's no easier, however, to make good music. a lamborghini is more powerful than a prius, but if the guy driving it goes everywhere in 1st gear, he just looks like a tool and makes a terrible noise. whereas the stig can make a prius wail around a track. and so it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 yeah it's easier to make music. it's no easier, however, to make good music. a lamborghini is more powerful than a prius, but if the guy driving it goes everywhere in 1st gear, he just looks like a tool and makes a terrible noise. whereas the stig can make a prius wail around a track. and so it is. penis analogies only please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al5x Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 yeah it's easier to make music. it's no easier, however, to make good music. a lamborghini is more powerful than a prius, but if the guy driving it goes everywhere in 1st gear, he just looks like a tool and makes a terrible noise. whereas the stig can make a prius wail around a track. and so it is. Nailed it, buddy. But on a personal note I've been playing instruments and using a computer to make music for a very long time, it's a lot more difficult to get out of a computer what I want than a guitar, drumset, piano etc. to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 If its too easy you have to try harder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancolecreate Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 it is just as easy as writing bad music in other genres, but it's WAY easier to get it out there. Just bounce a track and upload to soundcloud, where as a band would have record / mix and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 it has always been easy to make music. people have been banging shit against other shit for thousands of years and calling it music. it's just the internet provides a platform for mass exposure and every cunt expects to be famous these days due to the hellish rise of celebrity culture and programs like the X Factor et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 is easier to churn out but harder to be innovative the mix n match mentality to making music often doesnt challange new territory and noveltys wear off very quickly these days as its all too easy to emulate with modern software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the anonymous forumite Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 increased software "intelligence" obviously makes some electronic music easier to make (for instance: randomizers, generative music, paulstretch). However, critical intelligence adapts to these new circumstances and makes one's music validity more difficult to obtain ("your record is lazy shit, entirely made on paulstretch"). As a consequence of smarter software, I believe justification of how one's music was made is gonna a big thing in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 increased software "intelligence" obviously makes some electronic music easier to make (for instance: randomizers, generative music, paulstretch). However, critical intelligence adapts to these new circumstances and makes one's music validity more difficult to obtain ("your record is lazy shit, entirely made on paulstretch"). As a consequence of smarter software, I believe justification of how one's music was made is gonna a big thing in the future. theres still an art to getting anything decent or fresh from intelligent software tho it may take out some of the hard work or get you out of bad habits but you still need a good ear, open mind and a little imagination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adam Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Too easy? Then why nobody with their terabytes of sounds and vsts and abletons and synths and other stuff can't make anything what Clark does with Mpc, mic, synth and efects? I mean if it's too easy, give me an example of how easily good track is made. It's not easier than it was ten years ago. There are just more presets. Still, you need to know how to use them. Imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 yeah, to sum up, i think we can agree on the fact that making music is easy, but making good music is difficult. making music: easy making good music: difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sensi Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Like others said, it's easier to make shitty music. I actually think it's harder to make good electronic music now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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