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Still room for the famous lynchian "it was all a dream, and f#ck it, lets introduce time travel/shift identities as well" plot twist, I see ;-)

 

or they never won the game of thrones and Dan actually died of heart attack

 

or more bluntly

 

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just lol...so the big scary existential threat over all these seasons got dealt within one episode in the most cheesiest way ever and now it's back to some silly squabble about some chair.

FWIW it was a fun episode. I enjoyed it but there’s some holes. Anyway, this gif agrees with what a lot of people are complaining about.

 

https://gfycat.com/SentimentalGlamorousCollie

 

Now that's a funny ass gifmeme  :w00t:

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lol

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aaargh

 

so much cringe this entire episode. most of the episode i was basically eating myself up because they should have known they'd only need a few kills. that was pretty much established the last season. what was their strategy? fight all the useless shit and ignore the few who'd actually be worthwhile to attack. 

 

 

 

and sure, in the end a single blow could end it all. that scenario was already a given. but please, instead create some tension by hunting the sub-bosses first. why not go for a plot where their strategy was to hunt for the few that mattered?

 

like for instance, spy on the moving dead army by following them from a safe distance. which would be easy because their goal was known: the three eyed raven. and meanwhile kill those sub bosses off one by one. get into some story where the dead knight has to figure out some counter strategy. and you'd have some tension because you want to track their movements while not being seen. you'd have some cat and mouse story which you'd easily be able to draw out over a number of episodes. you'd introduce some actual strategy, instead of: dragon-glass and fire and then duh... try to hit anything that move and makes funny noises.

it would also give the night king some kind of character. instead of some kind of super power with some obvious achilles heal. instead, mindless waving of swords and axes.

 

some extra stupidity: if you'd know they were hunting for the three eyed raven, why have all the women and children basically in the same place!? send them to the south or something. you know, be smart and get them out of the line of fire.

 

this was so f-ing mindless.

 

thank god this is done, i guess. now there's only the useless war against cerceis army left, i guess. hopefully that's not going to be another episode of mindless stupidity from start to end.

 

fuck, this was fucking annoying

 

 

 

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well i liked it :shrug:

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it was awful. you just need to get over your stockholm syndrome to notice. ;p

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You guys are just jaded :p

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just lol...so the big scary existential threat over all these seasons got dealt within one episode in the most cheesiest way ever and now it's back to some silly squabble about some chair.

FWIW it was a fun episode. I enjoyed it but there’s some holes. Anyway, this gif agrees with what a lot of people are complaining about.

 

https://gfycat.com/SentimentalGlamorousCollie

 

Now that's a funny ass gifmeme :w00t:
So true... no real plot, flat characters even with nonexistent dialogue Edited by o00o

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for the first 20 minutes it was looking like it was going to transcend the two towers-like big battle™ presets and do something interesting and relatively new. the tension buildup before the battle was good, the way horsepeople got got was nice as well, and then the first  visible zombie assault that looked a tidal way of horror sweeping everything on its path was awesome. the sense of dread and hopelessness was real for a while. but then the tension gets farted away completely and we get into the checkbox checking mode with all the deaths of secondary characters, near deaths of main ones, useless video gamy stealth sequence, all kinds of acts of heroism and all of the boring and worn out shit that's way past diminishing returns. it's just so awfully mechanical, predictable and dull at this point. bleh.

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genuinely irritated daenarys didnt die. the opportunity was perfect. 

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i was actually enjoying it thoroughly right up the point where nothing was explained with the night king and bran, no-one died, and the entire army of the dead got wiped out in one hit.halfway through i thought daenerys dead, night king speaks to bran and turns out he actually had an alterior motive of not just being a pure arsehole, episode ends with an actual cliffhanger instead of just exactly the same as the last episode. 

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I feel like I’m the only one who thinks the Night King was boring High Fantasy Evil bullshit, and the Army of the Dead was always better as a metaphor for everyone’s real existential threat rather than an incarnated existential threat.

 

I’m looking forward to Cersei actually slaughtering everyone you all care about, especially Snow, who is like the most mediocre hero ever to bumble into a position of esteem.

Just like fucking rub her twat all over his corpse and cover it in some proper amoral grool and then have an incest with her newborn to ensure a bloodline of incest clownage rules over humanity for the remainder of its fucking idiotic existence, as is just and proper, and the end credits will just be GRRM reciting some shitty cannibal corpse lyrics over a still image of Danaerys being dead but still looking confused

 

And then in a post-credit sequence the newborn pulls of its face and it were Arya all along

 

 

Death is still going to win yOu FuckInG NErdOs

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 especially Snow, who is like the most mediocre hero ever to bumble into a position of esteem.

 

 

 

 

you forget Forest Gump. 

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especially Snow, who is like the most mediocre hero ever to bumble into a position of esteem.

 

 

 

you forget Forest Gump.

Sadly, no, I accounted for Gump

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teleports behind you

nothin' personnel, kid

 

 

Hey - we'll always have Seasons 1-4 to re-watch, right?  :emotawesomepm9:

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lol it was fucking dark and hard too see...had to turn all the lights off, shut the curtains and bugger about with my picture settings to make it viewable

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I streamed it from Sky Go live and it looked like shite, then downloaded a copy and rewatched last night and I could actually see what was going on.

 

I still quite liked it 2nd time around, battle wasn't as good as the battle to retake Winterfell, though I really liked the buildup, the sense of impending dread, the brief bit of hope with the Dothraki charge and subsequent pants shitting from everyone after that totally failed.

 

My main gripes were the walker generals and night king didn't get involved enough (ok, at least the night king flew around on his dragon a bit, but the others should have at least got involved in a sword fight with some of the major characters or something), and yeah the night king should have at least had a chat with Bran at the end, he just walked around with a stupid smirk on his face the whole time and got into a bit of stare off with a few people.

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maybe he's not dead and will recombine T-1000 style when his remains melt.

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Why would the night king have a chat with Bran? He's not there to negotiate, he's there to extinguish the entirety of human life. It's not really a complex situation. And din't they already know that killing the night king would fell his army?

 

The fight was good, up there (but probably not quite as good as) with the battle to reclaim winterfell. I think caze's analysis of it is about right: "battle wasn't as good as the battle to retake Winterfell, though I really liked the buildup, the sense of impending dread, the brief bit of hope with the Dothraki charge and subsequent pants shitting from everyone after that totally failed."

 

Anyway - really well done TV. Looking forward to Jamie killing Cersei as they fuck. Or vice-versa (more likely).

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I'm impressed you guys saw all this. My screen was amorphous blobs of black and gray frenzy for an hour. I needed that visually impaired narration thing: "Jon Snow rises up from the rubble. Samwell struggles under the weight of undead attackers" etc

 

Man, I've been skeptical of this "it was too dark" observation but I suppose it varies from person to person. It just seems a lot of people my age or younger don't really appreciate how hard it is to film low lit stuff and likewise how much HD quality has improved playback of it. Post-production color editing and all that gave us both a dark and high resolution episode. And it should of been, It was a dire, dim, apocalyptic night winter battle against an army of the dead. I remember watching Batman (1989) on VHS on a 80s era CRT tv as a kid.I could hardly see anything toward the end, which made the violence more ominous and disturbing. I know the same combination of well-worn VHS tape, old faded 640×480 VGA playback affected a lot of noir and horror films of that era. There was no other option. That shit was literally dark AF, still effective in a sense but far more limited.

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Why would the night king have a chat with Bran? He's not there to negotiate, he's there to extinguish the entirety of human life. It's not really a complex situation. And din't they already know that killing the night king would fell his army?

 

bran picked the place to be that would result in the night king being defeated because he could see the possible futures, right? i guess the night king was attracted to the three eyed raven, maybe wanted to kill him to bring him on board.

 

decent enough. i'm just glad it's over, so they can spend the last 3 episodes on other things. this was a Lost situation that could have gone worse.

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I wasn't thinking negotiations or small talk, just some evil villain gloating, and Bran with some humanity is great and won't be defeated type waffle, with some revelation of some interesting history/mythos or something. They obviously wanted to portray them as this relentless mindless evil, but the effect of that was diminished by how easily he was defeated in the end, and at little cost in terms of the main characters, if they were going to do away with what they were making out to be the main threat from the last couple of seasons in order to focus on more human concerns for the final episodes they should have at least had some kind of interesting reveal, instead they've just snuffed it out and moved on, was a bit of a damp squib.

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i am really wondering about a season 9. it's such a fucking cash cow, and they now have story license to do what they want. interesting that they had this opportunity to kill off a ton of characters and didn't really kill anyone important...

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so that's that.

 

sobering? most certainly. silly/implausible? more often than not fo sho. missed opportunities? plenty, yo.

 

but y'know what: maybe it's for the better really. i'm kinda glad we're just done with the zombie apocalypse thing. makes one hope the finals might actually hark back more to the series title / origins.

 

in formal terms of screenplay, editing etc. the episode was solid and enjoyable imo. the first 30 minutes were tense as fuck alright and i actually enjoyed the gratuitous resident evil bits in the library. lots of stuff didn't make a whole lot of sense and / or made for forced dramatics (like that one dragon getting humped by zombies galore without just lifting off or spitting fire or doing its general dragon stuff all of a sudden) but yeah. overall surprising lack of surprises, on the other hand by now it's pretty much impossible to come up with anything the fanbase hasn't already anyway so i'm actually quite down with the "fuck it" straight forward approach. the hero kill count was rather lol tho after all the emo build up from the last 2 episodes...

 

whatevs. looking forward to more king's landing and cercei.

 

 

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Caught up on episode 3 last night.... complete cringe fest. I would have expected it from the latest Disney-fied Hollywood claptrap for 10 year olds. From GOT? No way. So disappointed. 7 seasons of build up just for that. May as well of had little Lyanna Mormont just bitch slap him in front of everyone and him run away like a sissy girl back beyond the wall. Would have made about as much sense.

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