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ah yeah, after a loong time of wait, it's finally out.

 

2K$ isn't really overpriced when you consider everything, I think.

 

it looks pretty awesome and seems to sound great. I love to see dave smith and roger linn, 2 old guys, still making great gear !

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looks great. love the name.

 

waaaaaaaaaay too pricey. sorry. can't really compare it to a 6 voice analog synth as this is much more limited (envelopes/architecture/ etc... is geared towards rhythmn & percussive sounds).

 

get the price down & i'll buy one for sure.

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i can't believe i didn't think of this myself!

 

edit: i mean, going back and building a _proper_ drum machine like they went back and built the prophet 2k8...

 

edit ii: watched vid. jesus fuck i want it!

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It looks very nice, but...

 

It doesn't sample, and you can't import samples either, at least not in the first version. Major trick missed there. There is a usb connection so maybe some hope of a hacked OS or something.

 

I have Maschine integrated reasonably well with a couple of analogues, so what am I missing? If the drum synths have a bit of character or edge about them, then maybe, but $2,000 would also get you a decent if modest modular set up with multiple sound sources/generators, and I'd probably go for the modular. Still want one obviously.

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I want to know more about the sequencer which will make or break the machine imho but if Roger and Dave have owt to do with it then.....

I want to know more about the human feel Roger is talking about, MPC3000's and MPC60's still fetch a fair whack.

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I want to know more about the sequencer which will make or break the machine imho but if Roger and Dave have owt to do with it then.....

I want to know more about the human feel Roger is talking about, MPC3000's and MPC60's still fetch a fair whack.

 

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/01/the-father-of-drum-machines-and-the-father-of-midi-talk-about-design-and-the-tempest/

 

Groove and voodoo

 

Much has been made by MPC users of that instrument’s groove, but Roger – the guy who actually made the groove – routinely discounts it as being anything special. I raised an eyebrow when Roger mentioned in his copy for the Tempest that he used his “bag of tricks.” He explains here precisely what he means – a must-read, incidentally, for MPC fans.

 

Roger: There’s a lot more voodoo in the press than actually exists. Even on my earliest drum machines, all I did was make sure my samples were trimmed tightly and wrote my software so that the software responds tightly. Swing is just a matter of accurate percentages.

 

My bag of tricks is basically taking away all the stuff the software sequencers give you — options for that no one knows how to set. Back then, in the earlier days, sequencers just weren’t very good for timing because the OS would always get in the way. These days, you can get great swing if you know what yuo’re doing. The problem is the software interfaces make it so hard to get what you’re trying to get.

 

For swing, what I do is I use my percentages. You can do fifty percent up to seventy-five percent. And what that means is, for every eighth note, it’s the percentage between the first sixteenth note and the second. 50% means straight time, 66% means falling on triplets, 75% … is going very slow for a jazz groove. It actually falls on 32nd notes. Most of the time it’s 50%, 66%.

 

There’s no other trick than that. The thing I think made a lot of my early drum machines sound good, at least starting with the 9000, was that you had the pressure-sensitive pads coupled with the note repeat feature. I called it note repeat, people called it rolls. It was mostly not for doing rolls, but just doing good … sixteenth-note grooves. If you just play it by varying pressure, it’s pretty easy to get it right. You couple that with nice swing percentages – something around 58-60% is really pretty cool. I think it’s pretty easy for most people to get a good groove.

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a. roger linn drinks one of my favorite beers.

 

2. i would buy the shit out of this if I had spare money

 

and further more I don't, so I shall pretend I never saw that video.

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ah yeah, after a loong time of wait, it's finally out.

 

2K$ isn't really overpriced when you consider everything, I think.

 

 

i thin it is considering that was the original proposed price for a unit that does sampling too , can't say im not excited but i'm definitely not going to buy the sampling one, the synthesis one seems a lot more interesting.

 

it is LONG overdue for some company to take a stab at a complex custom drum synthesis sequencer, the last one was really the Machinedrum. All the jomox and other stuff is heavily based in the cloning of 808 and 909 sounds, this seems like its more concerned with just good analog drum

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I'd say this is only 1 firmware update/hardware revision away from being an "analogue mpc" - all the bits seem to be the for using yr own samples, and it's not out till june...

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2. i would buy the shit out of this if I had spare money

 

i was about to impulse-buy it and put myself into debt, then i saw it doesn't come out until june. pretty sure i can have the funds together by then. the path is clear to me!!

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it is LONG overdue for some company to take a stab at a complex custom drum synthesis sequencer, the last one was really the Machinedrum.

 

Jomox were a step in the right direction toowith pattern shuffle and they did introduce parameter locks in a basic fashion

 

I just hope the sequencer on the Tempest is up to scratch as for this price it's got to be more than a studio tool but I'm sure Roger and Dave know what they are doing.

 

I also hope they'll bring a cut down version in the near future.

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