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when the human protagonists refuse to wear helmets when exploring new planets,and then act like fucking amateurs when they inevitably get infected,its impossible to give a shit about anyone in the movie

 

Like they were listening to all the Prometheus outcry for taking off helmets and poking at shit and went like "noted", and just outright abandon helmets on an alien world whatsoever. Funny thing is that in both cases it wasn't really necessary for anything to happen - in Covenant less so, but in a world where different people repeatedly get fucked by the same blood spot on the floor the writers had multiple ways to let it slide.

 

It's tough to retain some sort of authenticity when taking on quasi-biblical epos. At this point new Alien movies not so much destroy the legacy as make the original some sort of wonder.

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At this point new Alien movies not so much destroy the legacy as make the original some sort of wonder.

 

 

You know what Amen Lare, I think you just hit the nail right square on the head.

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In the early 80's and late 70's they had a of thinking heads working on these movies, it's not a coincidence that the later movies were all a failure because they had too much input from solely the director who has an insufferable ego.

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i'm not sure any of that is true

 

i like you new watmm dude, welcome

 

and i love these 2 new alien movies and can't wait to see what's next *plays nosetrumpet infont of the haters*

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The bits that didn't have the main xenomorphs were alright, but they managed to somehow remove all the fear and tension from the final 20-30 mins of the film somehow, especially the bits with xeno #2.

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In the early 80's and late 70's they had a of thinking heads working on these movies, it's not a coincidence that the later movies were all a failure because they had too much input from solely the director who has an insufferable ego.

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The floating head in the water bit was probably the best bit. But yeah, not great.

 

I also didn't like how the soundtrack was way too influenced by the first film. Music in films is a big deal, and can become inexorably linked with it. Don't like when other films use soundtrack stuff. Especially something so iconic as the Alien soundtrack.

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The floating head in the water bit was probably the best bit. But yeah, not great.

 

I also didn't like how the soundtrack was way too influenced by the first film. Music in films is a big deal, and can become inexorably linked with it. Don't like when other films use soundtrack stuff. Especially something so iconic as the Alien soundtrack.

 

I actually really liked the soundtrack. I just rewatched it and those pitched down glassy and hollow sounding strings or whatever they are sound fucking cool

 

 

They start playing at 0:30.

 

Anyway, I actually don't think it's THAT bad a movie. A lot of the stuff that annoys me are actually just things from Prometheus that I am being reminded of. If Prometheus hadn't existed I'm pretty sure this movie would be looked at through different glasses.

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The floating head in the water bit was probably the best bit. But yeah, not great.

 

I also didn't like how the soundtrack was way too influenced by the first film. Music in films is a big deal, and can become inexorably linked with it. Don't like when other films use soundtrack stuff. Especially something so iconic as the Alien soundtrack.

 

I actually really liked the soundtrack. I just rewatched it and those pitched down glassy and hollow sounding strings or whatever they are sound fucking cool

 

 

They start playing at 0:30.

 

Anyway, I actually don't think it's THAT bad a movie. A lot of the stuff that annoys me are actually just things from Prometheus that I am being reminded of. If Prometheus hadn't existed I'm pretty sure this movie would be looked at through different glasses.

 

See that stuff was fine, quite liked that stuff - the more sound-designy stuff. I just didn't like the constant motifs coming from Alien.

 

I agree though - Prometheus shouldn't have existed

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In the early 80's and late 70's they had a of thinking heads working on these movies, it's not a coincidence that the later movies were all a failure because they had too much input from solely the director who has an insufferable ego.

 

Every Alien film so far, not counting the AvP ones, have had auteur directors who are known for a particular style, so their influence kind of comes with the territory, if they ever went with a more unknown director for hire, maybe Fox would exert more pressure to do them in a certain way. But really imo, seeing each person's take, including Ridley's, is about the only thing that keeps them interesting after almost 40 years.

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In the early 80's and late 70's they had a of thinking heads working on these movies, it's not a coincidence that the later movies were all a failure because they had too much input from solely the director who has an insufferable ego.

 

Every Alien film so far, not counting the AvP ones, have had auteur directors who are known for a particular style, so their influence kind of comes with the territory, if they ever went with a more unknown director for hire, maybe Fox would exert more pressure to do them in a certain way. But really imo, seeing each person's take, including Ridley's, is about the only thing that keeps them interesting after almost 40 years.

 

 

I'm probably the only person here that liked Alien: Resurrection, still do. Bloomkant would have been atrocious, his short movies that he has been posting really show his weakness.

 

This doc is really interesting for more than one reason but seeing how Alien creative minds were put together is something that wouldn't happen today.

 

What Moebius said about Ridley Scott was right on the money.

https://youtu.be/jNas99oEXBU?t=25m46s

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