chaosmachine Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Henry Markram and the Human Brain Project are in talks with EU for $1.61 billion to achieve human brain emulation by 2024. 2024 is just 12.5 years away. So... Once you build it, and it works, is it alive? Can you ethically turn it off? What if you teach it language, and it writes "don't turn me off!"? Can it experience suffering? What if you program it to feel like it's on fire, forever? Does that experience exist, does it mean anything? Or is it just a virtual representation, a terribly complex emoticon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 This is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 2012 + 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Reminds me of that "Jeopardy" playing robot that IBM built. That think was fucking scary good. Was that the same dood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 But, but... we already have bots that can chat with humans on the internet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 this is incredibly interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I don't think he's got a hope in hell of doing this to any useful extent in by 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukeHdiszZmE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ego Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Computational power that can theoretically simulate a human brain in realtime by 2024? Seems possible. An actual brain model running on that hardware that behaves somewhat human? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 12.5 years isn't really enough to make something of any significant intelligence. That's probably enough time to make something on par with... Maximus Mischief. Add an extra five years and you'll have the intelligence of a glass of water. I'm no scientist, but I can't see how this will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Ya'll aint seen this? Watson's pretty smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I don't think they are actually going to be making a 'living' simulation but they can map out a brain in a model and stimulate it in certain ways and see which parts respond to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 yeah. this is sort of like the human genome project for the brain, i gather. they'll get it done and it'll be an amazing achievement great for research etc. but it won't be HAL 9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tht tne Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 12.5 years isn't really enough to make something of any significant intelligence. That's probably enough time to make something on par with... Maximus Mischief. Add an extra five years and you'll have the intelligence of a glass of water. I'm no scientist, but I can't see how this will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 yeah, i don't really think this is an AI project, their premise for getting the data mapped out is already ambitious enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 This is a project I can get behind spending obscene amounts of money on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 what if it's troon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 If I were Bill Gates I would pay a different group of scientists $5.74 billion to build a more advanced human brain. (WIN95 MOST IDM THING 2011! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 there's no way the computer brain will just randomly start fantasizing about hot chicks as much as my brain does. I reject any brain without that most basic of components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 yeah, i don't really think this is an AI project, their premise for getting the data mapped out is already ambitious enough. Exactly, this is not an AI project, just a way to emulate the brain and its cells, that's ambitious enough. There are probably "easier" ways to start developing AIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 what if it's troon? then the world truly is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 [insert apocalyptic paranoid statement here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 what if they decide to map out a womans brain? Surely they could get that done by 2014 and have a cool billion still in the bank to spend on other stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 wumins so compelciated tho :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I'm sure someone is already hard at work building this in minecraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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