BCM Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 yeah mac only I'm afraid! been mac only for years now I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I may check out logic and see what the deal is once I get my new pc. lol what lol? lol but the good news is: Logic 5.5.1 last Version for PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halisray Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 I have to agree the Piano roll in Ableton is pretty rubish. However I recall the piano roll in further Cubase versions after VST 2.5 being not up to par. I may check out logic and see what the deal is once I get my new pc. LOL Hmm is it really worth it? So much space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I have to agree the Piano roll in Ableton is pretty rubish. However I recall the piano roll in further Cubase versions after VST 2.5 being not up to par. I may check out logic and see what the deal is once I get my new pc. LOL Hmm is it really worth it? So much space Just unclick all the Logic Sample Packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I have to agree the Piano roll in Ableton is pretty rubish. However I recall the piano roll in further Cubase versions after VST 2.5 being not up to par. I may check out logic and see what the deal is once I get my new pc. LOL Hmm is it really worth it? So much space Just unclick all the Logic Sample Packs. yeah exactly.. i'm pretty sure you can get the total install size to a gig or less if you take out the fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halisray Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Yeah but don't those sample packs contain the necessary stuff or are they just random samples like the ones off freesound and shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxus Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 the sample packs are necessary if you want to use the esx24 sampler plugin. i hear it's pretty good but i've never bothered with it myself. also there's a bunch of built-in loops, but if you have your own sample collection you can probably get by fine without any of that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Yeah but don't those sample packs contain the necessary stuff or are they just random samples like the ones off freesound and shit? If you install all the Apple Loops you get awful sax solos, drum beats and so on and all in all they're a whopping 70 gb. You don't need those samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megapussi Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 the sample packs are necessary if you want to use the esx24 sampler plugin. i hear it's pretty good but i've never bothered with it myself. also there's a bunch of built-in loops, but if you have your own sample collection you can probably get by fine without any of that stuff. exs24 is very good, and of course you don´t need the sample packs to use it, just use your own samples. it even acts as a great sine wave synth if you don´t load any samples and there is like 10 Gb of useful one shot sounds in the sample pack, just don´t install all the loops and such. at least that´s what i did everybody get on the logic buss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 If you install all the Apple Loops you get awful sax solos "awful sax solos vol. II" found in bargain bin sometime in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N Aafiysh Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 15 years ago I had the following workflow: rip a CD into .wav files using iTunes open the .wav files in WaveLab and find cool loops Export the cool loops from WaveLab as new .wav files load new looped .wav files into an Akai MPC 2000 and save as a drum program. So, presently I have an Akai MPC 1000 and Logic 9 on my laptop. It might seem silly to use Logic 9 as nothing more than a .wav editor, but that is what I want to do(since I already own Logic), can anyone suggest a similar workflow? Thanks. p.s. is this whole "Apple Loops" thing worth looking into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N Aafiysh Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I kind of figured out how to cut the raw loop in the sample editor, and export it as a .wav the apple loop thing will only let me save it as a 'one shot" even though i know it is a 2 bar loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Apple Loops as a format is dead end, IMO. I prefer using the MPC to actually cut the loops (easier to audition the looping there), so what I would do is just very roughly cut out the interesting parts of the tune in Logic (or whatever), then load them into the MPC to chop them. But yeah don’t bother with Apple Loops, it’s just some junky metadata and tempo information and crap that the MPC isn’t going to care about anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al N Aafiysh Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Ascdi - thank you for your reply. I actually think I am going to do both. cut a rough area to loop in the mpc. make a finer apple loop in the mac with Apple Loop Utility... once i find a loop in the mpc, how do i find it's tempo? in terms of doing/taking both approaches, i should make new separate EKT topics. Thanks! * Apple Loops as a format is dead end, IMO. I prefer using the MPC to actually cut the loops (easier to audition the looping there), so what I would do is just very roughly cut out the interesting parts of the tune in Logic (or whatever), then load them into the MPC to chop them. But yeah don’t bother with Apple Loops, it’s just some junky metadata and tempo information and crap that the MPC isn’t going to care about anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Logic is pretty bad at editing audio. I would suggest getting a different wave form editor. Adobe Audition, Peak, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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