chaosmachine Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Officers at a location flagged by a computer program as a place where car burglaries were especially likely put a woman in custody. ...The presence of the police officers in the garage that Friday afternoon in July was anything but ordinary: They were directed to the parking structure by a computer program that had predicted that car burglaries were especially likely there that day. Santa Cruz’s method is more sophisticated than most. Based on models for predicting aftershocks from earthquakes, it generates projections about which areas and windows of time are at highest risk for future crimes by analyzing and detecting patterns in years of past crime data. The projections are recalibrated daily, as new crimes occur and updated data is fed into the program. On the day the women were arrested, for example, the program identified the approximately one-square-block area where the parking garage is situated as one of the highest-risk locations for car burglaries. Law enforcement agencies, Mr. Dickson noted, have “great warehouses of data” that can be used to feed predictive programs. And in the end, he said, “it’s cheaper to prevent a crime than to solve a crime, and that’s where I think the promise lies.” http://www.nytimes.c...olice.html?_r=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Innocent til proven guilty, huh. Well, all the people it predicts that will commit crimes are still all innocent of any wrongdoing since the crime has yet to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 This is cool. I hate myself slightly but it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 WHERES MY MINORITY REPORT? So what, they hooked up abused children's brains to the computer or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 This is cool. I hate myself slightly but it is. yep. It's not like the women were simply charged for being in the area at the time either, they were found suspiciously looking into cars and one of them had warrents and the other one was carrying meth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I am sorry but fuck this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerm Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Innocent til proven guilty, huh. Well, all the people it predicts that will commit crimes are still all innocent of any wrongdoing since the crime has yet to happen... it's not actually minority report...i don't think it predicts crimes that people are going to commit, just helps deploy officers in more crime worn areas... saying the women were arrested on the report just makes you want to read it, i don't think it has relevance to the computer...she must've done something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 could have been much more idm if they used an unmanned drone with non-lethal weapons (like those microwave guns for example) instead of real cops to intercept the criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Innocent til proven guilty, huh. Well, all the people it predicts that will commit crimes are still all innocent of any wrongdoing since the crime has yet to happen... it's not actually minority report...i don't think it predicts crimes that people are going to commit, just helps deploy officers in more crime worn areas... saying the women were arrested on the report just makes you want to read it, i don't think it has relevance to the computer...she must've done something wrong. ....basically what i was going to say. It will probably be excellent for making better use of resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest futuregirlfriend Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 There was an interesting bit on the third episode (which was about prediction) of the BBC 2 programme The Code where maths was used to create a heat map of where a crook might live based on the location of his crimes. http://www.kevinhous...he-code-part-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Franklin Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 so basically I'm starting a computer program to tell me, based on historical crimes rates, when and where crimes will be least anticipated. easy. thug life 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chenGOD Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 so basically I'm starting a computer program to tell me, based on historical crimes rates, when and where crimes will be least anticipated. easy. thug life 2.0. Exactly - combined with people announcing their travel plans on facebook/twitter, or using that program where you check into a place "Kevin Bacon just checked into Margaritaville", if you know Kevin Bacon's house and it's located in a low-crime area (historically speaking), bam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 WATTM have we just admitted an interest in organized crime if it's done in an IDM way?... Should we start a WATMM mafia? Edit: 'Cause I am SO down to rob Kevin Bacon's house :sup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazador Mod Unit Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 You know, ever since I read this article http://www.nybooks.c...iew+of+Books%29 I have been thinking that we are going to have Minority Report tech sooner than we think. Just to play evil guy for a second, if I worked at the CIA I would totally ask Google for something MR-like to detect guys like Anders Behring Breivik. This guy wrote I a 1500+ manifesto filled with I guess all kinds of 'suspicious' activity. I mean, what if he wrote it on Google Docs, or sent it via Gmail, or kept asking search the 'wrong questions'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 so basically I'm starting a computer program to tell me, based on historical crimes rates, when and where crimes will be least anticipated. easy. thug life 2.0. Exactly - combined with people announcing their travel plans on facebook/twitter, or using that program where you check into a place "Kevin Bacon just checked into Margaritaville", if you know Kevin Bacon's house and it's located in a low-crime area (historically speaking), bam. That location bullshit pisses me off, for that exact reason. Granted, I know that only people I know (or allow? my settings are all super private) could see that information if I used it (supposedly), but... why the hell would anyone want to announce to the world where they are and when they're there? What the hell does it matter if I use Facebook on the wifi at a starbucks or my house or my friend's house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Sounds like a bit of hyperbolic media. The police are basically using an algorithm to distribute their 'resources' in an optimal way in a given area. This isn't any more "minority report" than idle elevators trying to predict which level it needs to be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 so basically I'm starting a computer program to tell me, based on historical crimes rates, when and where crimes will be least anticipated. easy. thug life 2.0. Exactly - combined with people announcing their travel plans on facebook/twitter, or using that program where you check into a place "Kevin Bacon just checked into Margaritaville", if you know Kevin Bacon's house and it's located in a low-crime area (historically speaking), bam. That location bullshit pisses me off, for that exact reason. Granted, I know that only people I know (or allow? my settings are all super private) could see that information if I used it (supposedly), but... why the hell would anyone want to announce to the world where they are and when they're there? What the hell does it matter if I use Facebook on the wifi at a starbucks or my house or my friend's house? Ostensibly it's so people in the area can come and say hi, although in actuality I think people just do it to show off that they have (or think they have) interesting lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpentintollwut Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 idle elevators trying to predict which level it needs to be next You gotta admit THAT'S pretty Minority Report right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 This is cool. I hate myself slightly but it is. yep. It's not like the women were simply charged for being in the area at the time either, they were found suspiciously looking into cars and one of them had warrents and the other one was carrying meth The stupid thing about all this, is that you already have a far more advanced machine that can do this sort of predictive modelling. IT's CALLED A COP. A cop knows the parking garages that meth addicts target, cause him and his buddies are there doing it every fucking day. This stuff is a stupid waste of money that will probably be used as an excuse to contract the police force. Firing good, hardworking police in favour of a smaller force that apparently knows where the crimes will happen. The problem with this is that, eventually with the removal of regular policing stats from the modelling inputs. The predictive data will start a feedback loop. As the remaining cops get sent back to the same 'high crime' areas (read the few places the models has settled on) time and again. You'll lose all that good data that comes from having bodies on the ground and driving around. Sounds like a bit of hyperbolic media. The police are basically using an algorithm to distribute their 'resources' in an optimal way in a given area. I agree with this, but you can see how it's usefulness could be overblown in an attempt to salve the minds of politicians hoping to justify budget their cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 idle elevators trying to predict which level it needs to be next You gotta admit THAT'S pretty Minority Report right there yeah i like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 i've developed an app to predict where the next english riot will take place here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 277: 930-933 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 maybe people shouldn't be parking their cars in high-risk zones. who's to blame in this situation? we should be looking at why these people are at the point where they are breaking into cars and whatnot. they more likely need our help than a cell in a jail. How are people to know that they are parking their car in a high-risk area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Now, if there was only a program to predict when someone was going to act like a dumbass on messageboards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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