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#151 DavieAddison

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 01:34 PM

never seen anything at all comparable.

 

That's what I figured. Is it easy to make your own unique patches out of the presets?



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 01:38 PM

it's easy to make and save them. it's a pain in the ass to label them (have to connect to pc) so they're just strings of numbers (date/time related?)


sample from the mic, get the $20 antenna and sample from the radio



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 02:00 PM

it's easy to make and save them. it's a pain in the ass to label them (have to connect to pc) so they're just strings of numbers (date/time related?)


sample from the mic, get the $20 antenna and sample from the radio

 

Ah okay. What would you say your main criticisms are?



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 02:09 PM

can't backup sequences, can't label presets? 



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 04:51 PM

can't backup sequences, can't label presets? 

 

you CAN back up sequences though, in a way.

 

just record the midi to daw.



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 05:01 PM

Novation Circuit may be a better option, depending on what you want to do. It has real midi I/O as well so plays nice with other gear.

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 05:50 PM

 

can't backup sequences, can't label presets? 

 

you CAN back up sequences though, in a way.

 

just record the midi to daw.

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 06:05 PM

cmon i'm just saying it's not like it's lost forever.



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 08:40 PM

it'd be great if it were at least possible to save sequences to snapshots.. it wouldn't be that hard to implement either.

 

It's one of the reasons why I sold mine. It's a great portable synth, but seems geared towards improvisation, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just not my kinda thing at the moment.



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 08:56 PM

I'm surprised it doesn't support SD cards. It would be nice to have more recording time and be able to store more samples



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 09:49 PM

 

 

can't backup sequences, can't label presets? 

 

you CAN back up sequences though, in a way.

 

just record the midi to daw.

...

 

lol some of the answers you got made me scratch my head too. wtf people.



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 05:03 AM

You can recall sequences with the finger sequencer (across the white note keys). so it is possible in a (limited) way. i have it synced up to my modular thru the oplab. it is quite a fun sequencer for live playing.

the endless sequencer is my favourite tho. it is more capable with how you can set note lengths and really long sequences, plus it's fully polyphonic. 
i just wish it was possible to save and recall several sequences with it. probably easy thing to implement, right? 



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 08:28 AM

I read that the storage space for the tape feature is 24 minutes but how many samples can you hold?



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 03:27 PM

Tape is 6 minutes, but contains 4 mono tracks that can be panned/muted/overdubbed. There is also the LP feature which allows you to record two "sides" of stereo audio at 6 minutes each.

As for samples, there is a hard limit on the number of samples that can be saved to the device, from the OP-1 forum:

Max Synth Sampler patches = 42
Max Synth Synthesis patches = 100
Max Drum Patches = 42

Sample length is limited to 6 seconds for melodic samples and 12 seconds for drums (I think..).

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 05:31 PM

i just really doubt your sequences are going to be so amazing that you have to save them so you can keep using them over and over. why wouldn't you want to keep making new sequences?

 

most of the sequencers store the last sequence in the mem. if it's that amazing, like i said, record the midi.

 

it's not that hard to remake sequences. i don't get people who want the gear to bend to them.

 

just bend to the gear.



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 05:41 PM

why wouldn't I want to, say, play a gig and be able to recall a specific sequence so I don't have to punch it in again?

I guess it depends on what your style is. I didn't really gel with it beyond using it as a fun portable live playing synth, and for that alone it's a bit expensive..

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 05:52 PM

some people wanna play it live but imo it's really not suited for it. it works better as a cartesian environment for making music.

 

i use it in the same way i use korg gadget (which lately i've been using more since i have it on my phone)



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Posted 31 December 2016 - 08:01 AM

Yeah, I think the ideal way to work with the OP-1 is to get things down to the tape. Then either mess with the tape live and record to the album or import into DAW and then chop up in there.

 

I prefer to think of the sequencers as (sub)pattern generators, and also I find them the most limiting aspect of the machine for both good and bad reasons. 



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Posted 05 March 2019 - 07:40 AM

the price does seem very high, but i think most people who have experience with digital synths will understand the price tag after playing with one for a few hours.

Its £669 in the uk which to my mind is still kinda expensive. That said I take you're point in terms of it sorting of competing with the Ipad on price but not with an Ipod Touch no way!! I got my Ipod Touch 3 secondhand for £80 and with Beatmaker 2 which has sampling, samples plus subtractive sample synthesis the OP-1 can't compete imo.

7 years later they've finally come to their senses and adjusted the price, so now it's only ..... £1199 ($1572): https://www.teenagee....com/store#op-1  :cisfor:

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Posted 05 March 2019 - 08:54 AM

oh so te invited me to perform with them in atlanta near the end of their tour. really awesome experience (hadn't played out in probably over 10 years). free food/drinks at an uber posh spot in atlanta i never would've gotten into before and will probably never get into again. the te guys were totally humble and rad to play with.

 

long and short was due to a number of factors (the screen being one of the most well documented) they had to choose between either killing it or bringing it back at a higher price. they chose the latter. 



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Posted 05 March 2019 - 08:58 AM

Alas I think the latter may unfortunately give way to the former (unless they've made significant improvements since the 2012 release)