UK no likey the porn

[BOCfan]

I'm o2 as well so I'm also unaffected.

 

I do agree with the idea of preventing young children from viewing porn, but adults should be able to watch what they want (barring exceptions like kiddie porn etc). It might be an opt-in system, but this has slight police state undertones to it.

[oscillik]

what, and the massive CCTV network that's been in place in the UK for the best part of 20 years isn't?

[BOCfan]

Not going to disagree with you; there are a lot of things already in place that are questionable at best when it comes to civil liberties. I didn't mean that last post to sound as if this is the first thing the government has ever done that has police state overtones, I probably worded that incorrectly.

[lumpenprol]

let's face it, the next generation is going to be as unlike us as we are from our grandparents. They'll be fingerpainting goatse at the elementary school level, and it won't phase them at all.

[Guest Lady kakapo]

why is porn legal if prostitution is not?

 

In the UK it isn't. It's soliciting that is illegal. If prostitution were made illegal you'd be criminalising about 98% of 'normal' relationships, and I'd have a lot less shoes.

[Guest El_Chemso]

Its like the Nice tits thread at a Government level. We've got to stop putting dicks in positions of power.

 

There's no way the Government, the slowest moving action and decision group known to mankind could ever keep up with the fastest nerds and their ingenious methods, its why piracy will never stop and porn will always flow.

[Blir]

Porn's an interesting thing eh? I think it's great. I don't care about the ISP thing as I'll always be savvy enough to get me some porn, so here's a diversion:

 

Higgins, when you say you're in favour of preventing young children from watching porn, what ages are you defining as 'young children'? Personally I was fascinated by sex from an early age, as early as primary school so about 10 or 11... UK lads around my age will fondly remember Eurotrash on Channel 4 and later on staying up on Friday night to watch the softcore porno's on Channel 5 I'm sure. Is 10/11 a young age? I never had anyone (parent or elder-wise) explain sex to me except for dialog with friends in school, so needless to say it was useless information as from the age of 13 every kid claims to have a massive cock and to have fingered everyone in school - so it wasn't like a "healthy" sex education or whatever. I remember being confused by softcore porn as a kid thinking "So you sort of lie there... and move back and forth... okay!" then moving onto hardcore porn and going "Oh shit there's a hole there! It makes so much sense now!"

Then shortly after it was more like "Oh right, you can make use of two holes down there, I understand"

Then "Oh right, the mouth is like another hole too, I can get along with that, sure"

 

Anyway, even with such a juvenile introduction to sex it hasn't like... damaged my view of the whole thing. I certainly don't just see women as somewhere to chuck my muck, regardless of how much I enjoy it. So I guess I'm wondering what the fear of porn is? Is it really damaging people? Has anybody explained this and I've just missed it?

 

I can't help but think it's some holdover from more puritanical times...

 

So let's have a serious discussion about porn! Who still watches it when they're in a relationship? I do.

Actually, sometimes one porn ain't enough, last night I watched some girl deepthroating on my left screen, while Velicity Von took two dicks on my right screen.

 

In case you're wondering, I'm pro porn.

[BOCfan]

let's face it, the next generation is going to be as unlike us as we are from our grandparents. They'll be fingerpainting goatse at the elementary school level, and it won't phase them at all.

 

Fucking lol indeed.

[BOCfan]

Porn's an interesting thing eh? I think it's great. I don't care about the ISP thing as I'll always be savvy enough to get me some porn, so here's a diversion:

 

Higgins, when you say you're in favour of preventing young children from watching porn, what ages are you defining as 'young children'? Personally I was fascinated by sex from an early age, as early as primary school so about 10 or 11... UK lads around my age will fondly remember Eurotrash on Channel 4 and later on staying up on Friday night to watch the softcore porno's on Channel 5 I'm sure. Is 10/11 a young age? I never had anyone (parent or elder-wise) explain sex to me except for dialog with friends in school, so needless to say it was useless information as from the age of 13 every kid claims to have a massive cock and to have fingered everyone in school - so it wasn't like a "healthy" sex education or whatever. I remember being confused by softcore porn as a kid thinking "So you sort of lie there... and move back and forth... okay!" then moving onto hardcore porn and going "Oh shit there's a hole there! It makes so much sense now!"

Then shortly after it was more like "Oh right, you can make use of two holes down there, I understand"

Then "Oh right, the mouth is like another hole too, I can get along with that, sure"

 

Anyway, even with such a juvenile introduction to sex it hasn't like... damaged my view of the whole thing. I certainly don't just see women as somewhere to chuck my muck, regardless of how much I enjoy it. So I guess I'm wondering what the fear of porn is? Is it really damaging people? Has anybody explained this and I've just missed it?

 

I can't help but think it's some holdover from more puritanical times...

 

So let's have a serious discussion about porn! Who still watches it when they're in a relationship? I do.

Actually, sometimes one porn ain't enough, last night I watched some girl deepthroating on my left screen, while Velicity Von took two dicks on my right screen.

 

In case you're wondering, I'm pro porn.

 

 

Well that's an interesting question, and I'm not sure that I can give you any kind of definitive answer. Everybody develops at different rates, so some people are interested in sexual imagery earlier than others. I think if I had kids myself, I probably wouldn't want my kids stumbling onto porn on the net when they're 5 or 6 say. I think it must be difficult if you're a parent helping a young child look up information for a school project on the net, for example, and you stumble across pornographic imagery using what seems to be an innocent search term, particularly if it's a young child who hasn't seen anything like that before and doesn't understand. I guess in that situation it's potentially damaging if a parent doesn't handle the situation well and leaves the child with more questions than answers.

 

Perhaps I'm looking through the crystal of my own childhood and not acknowledging that kids do indeed seem to grow up pretty quick now (which isn't such a good thing, imo). It's murky area, however, as kids will always reach a stage where they start getting sexually curious, and if they can't seek imagery like this via the net, then perhaps they'll do so in other ways.

[Blir]

Oh, that reminds me of another point I meant to make. I've recently been enjoying Omegle, I think it's great fun. However I go on the cam chat page sometimes and I've never seen so many maturbating dicks in my life. I've seen so much cock now thanks to that site I'm confident if I ever had to go to a cock warehouse to buy a replacement for my own that I'm knowledgable enough now to pick the best model.

 

However the thing that strikes me is the amount of kids who go on Omegle cam chat (from anywhere as young as 8 upwards) and no doubt are seeing the same stuff. That is where it's a little different in my head. Personally I'm too jaded to care now, but if I was that young going on Omegle and seeing stuff like that I think it would have bothered me a little. Something about these unusual people going online to masturbate in front of strangers is a little too... real? I don't know.

 

I think Lumpy is onto something with his remark about kids in elementary school.

 

What I find more disturbing is the emphasis on making porn harder to find, however continuing to promote and celebrate the careers of people who seem to make their life from being as slutty as possible. For example Rihanna music videos, marketed towards kids, kids love that shit, but wayyy too oversexualised. I would argue it does more damage (in terms of setting an unrealistic standard of how kids should present themselves and what's appropriate/popular) than porn ever will. Kids seem to have a much bigger focus on looking good, wearing makeup and for their young ages wear some shockingly adult stuff sometimes... I find that worrisome. Kids shouldn't try to grow up so fast, they don't understand it.

 

However I'm not going to argue that those music videos should be banned because I'm anti-censorship. I just lament the irresponsibilty of record labels in search of money I guess...

[BOCfan]

What I find more disturbing is the emphasis on making porn harder to find, however continuing to promote and celebrate the careers of people who seem to make their life from being as slutty as possible. For example Rihanna music videos, marketed towards kids, kids love that shit, but wayyy too oversexualised. I would argue it does more damage (in terms of setting an unrealistic standard of how kids should present themselves and what's appropriate/popular) than porn ever will. Kids seem to have a much bigger focus on looking good, wearing makeup and for their young ages wear some shockingly adult stuff sometimes... I find that worrisome. Kids shouldn't try to grow up so fast, they don't understand it.

 

However I'm not going to argue that those music videos should be banned because I'm anti-censorship. I just lament the irresponsibilty of record labels in search of money I guess...

 

Agree with that completely.

[Guest boo]

Its like the Nice tits thread at a Government level. We've got to stop putting dicks in positions of power.

we didn't vote for Joyrex

[TwiddleBot]

Apple doesn't want to sell adult apps through its store. You don't go into a cafe demanding the wait staff be naked do you?

 

This is funny because Apple does indeed sell adult-themed apps for mature audiences. They aren't very difficult to find, either.

 

Also, the app store does not have a physically present staff that you interact with, so I don't understand your analogy with walking into a cafe and demanding the waitress take off her top. It is hardly a coffee shop, it's an online store--and it is the only way to purchase software for the entire platform, making it fact a form of unaccountable de facto censorship that has already been used against legitimate artists having their work suddenly declared pornography and pulled off the app store merely because there was a naked body drawn somewhere (eg comic books). I do like my iPad but I can still see that this is a ridiculous, inconsistently enforced policy that is in serious need of some common sense.

[mosca]

The word 'recockulous' used earlier by Chen is pure win.

[Root5]

I kind of don't agree with preventing kids from watching porn.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed my forays into internet porn when I was a teen. Also, it was nice knowing I could just wait until my parents left and go on the internet. I didn't have to try getting a hold of dirty magazines or something.

 

And if we're talking pre-teens, I still don't see the big deal. I was naturally curious. I'd sometimes see things in movies that my dad watched, and it didn't mess me up.

 

Protecting children is all about making parents comfortable and has very little to do with protecting children. If we wanted to really protect children, we'd try to find out the things that are actually damaging to them.

[delet...]

Porn's an interesting thing eh? I think it's great. I don't care about the ISP thing as I'll always be savvy enough to get me some porn, so here's a diversion:

 

Higgins, when you say you're in favour of preventing young children from watching porn, what ages are you defining as 'young children'? Personally I was fascinated by sex from an early age, as early as primary school so about 10 or 11... UK lads around my age will fondly remember Eurotrash on Channel 4 and later on staying up on Friday night to watch the softcore porno's on Channel 5 I'm sure. Is 10/11 a young age? I never had anyone (parent or elder-wise) explain sex to me except for dialog with friends in school, so needless to say it was useless information as from the age of 13 every kid claims to have a massive cock and to have fingered everyone in school - so it wasn't like a "healthy" sex education or whatever. I remember being confused by softcore porn as a kid thinking "So you sort of lie there... and move back and forth... okay!" then moving onto hardcore porn and going "Oh shit there's a hole there! It makes so much sense now!"

Then shortly after it was more like "Oh right, you can make use of two holes down there, I understand"

Then "Oh right, the mouth is like another hole too, I can get along with that, sure"

 

Anyway, even with such a juvenile introduction to sex it hasn't like... damaged my view of the whole thing. I certainly don't just see women as somewhere to chuck my muck, regardless of how much I enjoy it. So I guess I'm wondering what the fear of porn is? Is it really damaging people? Has anybody explained this and I've just missed it?

 

I can't help but think it's some holdover from more puritanical times...

 

So let's have a serious discussion about porn! Who still watches it when they're in a relationship? I do.

Actually, sometimes one porn ain't enough, last night I watched some girl deepthroating on my left screen, while Velicity Von took two dicks on my right screen.

 

In case you're wondering, I'm pro porn.

i was reading an article in psychology today about the huge rise in sexual dysfunction amongst teens and men in their 20s... pretty much coincides with the advent of streaming porn sites. even correlated to hitting asian countries who had fast-broadband earlier etc. obviously there's been porn since the dawn of time, but not to the extent of 24/7 HD video access to anything imaginable - i think that's what the article said was the kicker.

 

basically people getting so used to the huge dopamine hit of flicking through videos that their brains were actually rewiring their brains to require that amount of stimulation... and that's something that actual sex can't keep up with... and so you had 18 year old guys who couldn't get aroused enough to have sex with a real woman.

 

i'm not really anti-porn either, but too much of a good thing is never really 'wonderful' is it? moderation and everything. kind of like sudden widespread availability of cheap, energy-rich food has lead to a massive rise in obesity... like that, it's not going to affect everyone - but the effects of it are probably only going to become evident in the next 5 years or so.

 

You could say the same thing about using your hand versus a pussy, you know. 24/7 tighter. Ala studies show, Young men can't be bothered with messy, loose female bodies anymore.

 

heh. bring on the fembots.

 

;-[]

[Glunk]

the thing is porn portrays sex as being self-serving, when it's really about mutual satisfaction. i think gloria steinem said it well: "Blatant or subtle, pornography involves no equal power or mutuality. In fact, much of the tension and drama comes from the clear idea that one person is dominating the other." i think this is a good precautionary measure so that kids don't "get the wrong idea" so to speak.

 

also yeah, our brains are subject to neuroplasticity. our neurons can literally change their circuitry because of environmental experiences.

 

in saying this i think there are other issues that are of equal if not greater importance that may be getting ignored, such as whether consent is taught in sex education and infant male circumcision being an acceptable practice

[chenGOD]

Coalbucket - it's called being a responsible parent. I don't let my daughter browse the net by herself, nor will I until I think she's ready to deal with the kinds of shit you can find on the net.

Yes, but you're essentially providing a filtering function there, that could be done by a machine. There's nothing irresponsible about outsourcing some of your parenting duties. If you think you can control what your daughter sees for 16 or however many years I wish you good luck sir but I think you might not manage it. I remember being passed one of those nude lady pens on the school bus when I was 11 but I can scarcely conceive what kids are looking at now, suffice to say it probably involves loads of cocks and some vomit and an owl or something.

 

You are fucking nuts if you think a machine blacklist can effectively work as a filter. You're also fucking nuts if you think a six year old should be alright with viewing shit like goatse.

Kids have not changed that much since we were kids. There are more extreme examples of course (although I'm sure there extreme examples before, we just hadn't heard about them cause news did not spread like it did thanks to the net) but I guarantee that the majority of 10 year olds are not seeking out swap.avi.

When she gets to be about 11 or 12, she'll have spent time browsing the net safely with me or my wife. She'll have some understanding of how sexuality works, and I have no problems being frank about it with her then. She'll understand that there is some sick shit on the net and that she might come across some. It will be natural to be curious about it, but (hopefully) she will have been raised with enough sense to talk with her parents about it and also realize that whilst sex is a natural activity, it should not be entered into with reckless abandon.

 

To whoever discussed the idea of making music videos more pornified - like the Rihanna example - yeah, I have a hard time explaining to her why she shouldn't be watching those videos at the age of six.

[chenGOD]

I kind of don't agree with preventing kids from watching porn.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed my forays into internet porn when I was a teen. Also, it was nice knowing I could just wait until my parents left and go on the internet. I didn't have to try getting a hold of dirty magazines or something.

 

And if we're talking pre-teens, I still don't see the big deal. I was naturally curious. I'd sometimes see things in movies that my dad watched, and it didn't mess me up.

 

Protecting children is all about making parents comfortable and has very little to do with protecting children. If we wanted to really protect children, we'd try to find out the things that are actually damaging to them.

 

We'll see how you feel about that when you're a parent. You knew it was taboo, so you had to wait until your parents left before you could go watch the porn. If it's not a big deal, why not have a wank in front of them?

Now, I'm not saying that 14 year olds have to be prudes....that would be rather hypocritical of me. I'm saying that pre-teens browsing porn is not something I can agree with, mostly cause young people's experiences haven't taught them enough about the world to understand what it's all about.

[chenGOD]

Apple doesn't want to sell adult apps through its store. You don't go into a cafe demanding the wait staff be naked do you?

 

This is funny because Apple does indeed sell adult-themed apps for mature audiences. They aren't very difficult to find, either.

 

Also, the app store does not have a physically present staff that you interact with, so I don't understand your analogy with walking into a cafe and demanding the waitress take off her top. It is hardly a coffee shop, it's an online store--and it is the only way to purchase software for the entire platform, making it fact a form of unaccountable de facto censorship that has already been used against legitimate artists having their work suddenly declared pornography and pulled off the app store merely because there was a naked body drawn somewhere (eg comic books). I do like my iPad but I can still see that this is a ridiculous, inconsistently enforced policy that is in serious need of some common sense.

 

Point me to some adult-themed apps? The analogy was that Apple is a private business, and as such they are free to sell, or not sell what they like (as long as it doesn't break any laws). For people to demand that they sell x-rated material is redonkulous. And you gotta provide some evidence that artists have been censored.

And the App store might be the only way to get software for mobile devices, but is certainly not the only way to get software for any apple dekstop or laptop.

[delet...]

Porn's an interesting thing eh? I think it's great. I don't care about the ISP thing as I'll always be savvy enough to get me some porn, so here's a diversion:

 

Higgins, when you say you're in favour of preventing young children from watching porn, what ages are you defining as 'young children'? Personally I was fascinated by sex from an early age, as early as primary school so about 10 or 11... UK lads around my age will fondly remember Eurotrash on Channel 4 and later on staying up on Friday night to watch the softcore porno's on Channel 5 I'm sure. Is 10/11 a young age? I never had anyone (parent or elder-wise) explain sex to me except for dialog with friends in school, so needless to say it was useless information as from the age of 13 every kid claims to have a massive cock and to have fingered everyone in school - so it wasn't like a "healthy" sex education or whatever. I remember being confused by softcore porn as a kid thinking "So you sort of lie there... and move back and forth... okay!" then moving onto hardcore porn and going "Oh shit there's a hole there! It makes so much sense now!"

Then shortly after it was more like "Oh right, you can make use of two holes down there, I understand"

Then "Oh right, the mouth is like another hole too, I can get along with that, sure"

 

Anyway, even with such a juvenile introduction to sex it hasn't like... damaged my view of the whole thing. I certainly don't just see women as somewhere to chuck my muck, regardless of how much I enjoy it. So I guess I'm wondering what the fear of porn is? Is it really damaging people? Has anybody explained this and I've just missed it?

 

I can't help but think it's some holdover from more puritanical times...

 

So let's have a serious discussion about porn! Who still watches it when they're in a relationship? I do.

Actually, sometimes one porn ain't enough, last night I watched some girl deepthroating on my left screen, while Velicity Von took two dicks on my right screen.

 

In case you're wondering, I'm pro porn.

i was reading an article in psychology today about the huge rise in sexual dysfunction amongst teens and men in their 20s... pretty much coincides with the advent of streaming porn sites. even correlated to hitting asian countries who had fast-broadband earlier etc. obviously there's been porn since the dawn of time, but not to the extent of 24/7 HD video access to anything imaginable - i think that's what the article said was the kicker.

 

basically people getting so used to the huge dopamine hit of flicking through videos that their brains were actually rewiring their brains to require that amount of stimulation... and that's something that actual sex can't keep up with... and so you had 18 year old guys who couldn't get aroused enough to have sex with a real woman.

 

i'm not really anti-porn either, but too much of a good thing is never really 'wonderful' is it? moderation and everything. kind of like sudden widespread availability of cheap, energy-rich food has lead to a massive rise in obesity... like that, it's not going to affect everyone - but the effects of it are probably only going to become evident in the next 5 years or so.

 

You could say the same thing about using your hand versus a pussy, you know. 24/7 tighter. Ala studies show, Young men can't be bothered with messy, loose female bodies anymore.

 

heh. bring on the fembots.

 

;-[]

but that IS something that happens too isn't? same with people that grew up who grew up in situations where they really had to rush at it. then when they're actually having sex and lasting 2 minutes.

 

but i think the gist of this article was that unlike something like that, this actually rewiring your brain on a more base level... that was the interesting thing i thought. like i wonder sometimes if that's how people start getting into more unusual sexual practices or whatever. combining sexual pleasure with some sort of taboo/scary thing increases the dopamine hit and after a while the vanilla partner with partner stuff doesn't cut it any more. you require that more intense amount of stimulation. vehemently anti-gay politicians in the US getting caught cruising in public restrooms etc...

 

 

morally i'm not against it... everyone should be able to do whatever they want as long as it's consensual... it was just an interesting thing i thought.

 

Yes you are right, it is interesting. It also speaks to the fact that these things can be reprogrammed. Not that you are likely to find anyone patient enough to help you through that process.

[delet...]

I kind of don't agree with preventing kids from watching porn.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed my forays into internet porn when I was a teen. Also, it was nice knowing I could just wait until my parents left and go on the internet. I didn't have to try getting a hold of dirty magazines or something.

 

And if we're talking pre-teens, I still don't see the big deal. I was naturally curious. I'd sometimes see things in movies that my dad watched, and it didn't mess me up.

 

Protecting children is all about making parents comfortable and has very little to do with protecting children. If we wanted to really protect children, we'd try to find out the things that are actually damaging to them.

 

We'll see how you feel about that when you're a parent. You knew it was taboo, so you had to wait until your parents left before you could go watch the porn. If it's not a big deal, why not have a wank in front of them?

Now, I'm not saying that 14 year olds have to be prudes....that would be rather hypocritical of me. I'm saying that pre-teens browsing porn is not something I can agree with, mostly cause young people's experiences haven't taught them enough about the world to understand what it's all about.

 

I was allowed to read 'the joy of sex' when i was quite young. Because i was still a long way from puberty, the only thing that it satisfied was my curiosity really. I don't think that something like that could ever demystified sex in the way that actually going out an meeting a willing partner does. And further i certainly didn't become sexualized to a greater or lesser extent through exposure to this book. Your peer group's attitudes towards sex, probably have a greater influence on how you'll end up going about it. Hence english public school boy wearing women's clothing and bumming one another.

[Root5]

I kind of don't agree with preventing kids from watching porn.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed my forays into internet porn when I was a teen. Also, it was nice knowing I could just wait until my parents left and go on the internet. I didn't have to try getting a hold of dirty magazines or something.

 

And if we're talking pre-teens, I still don't see the big deal. I was naturally curious. I'd sometimes see things in movies that my dad watched, and it didn't mess me up.

 

Protecting children is all about making parents comfortable and has very little to do with protecting children. If we wanted to really protect children, we'd try to find out the things that are actually damaging to them.

 

We'll see how you feel about that when you're a parent. You knew it was taboo, so you had to wait until your parents left before you could go watch the porn. If it's not a big deal, why not have a wank in front of them?

Now, I'm not saying that 14 year olds have to be prudes....that would be rather hypocritical of me. I'm saying that pre-teens browsing porn is not something I can agree with, mostly cause young people's experiences haven't taught them enough about the world to understand what it's all about.

 

My standard for judging if something is okay is not whether I'd be comfortable doing it in public.

 

I don't think yours is either. You just didn't think that out properly.

 

To answer your question more fully, I'm sure my parents knew that I was curious about sex, and I'm sure they knew I was seeking out porn. Or at least my father knew and kept quiet about it. However, he also knew that I knew to keep it private, so he was fine with it. Because he viewed porn when he was little (presumably) and he knew to keep it private.

 

And I've heard of other parents talking to their kids about this, telling them that it's okay, but as a matter of proper socialization they need to do it behind closed doors. That's just a generally sensible attitude.

[chenGOD]

yeah but, masturbating in your own house to porn is hardly out in the public. forget the masturbating part. How about just looking at a picture of a chick with cock stuffed in all of her holes in the living room?

 

I kind of don't agree with preventing kids from watching porn.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed my forays into internet porn when I was a teen. Also, it was nice knowing I could just wait until my parents left and go on the internet. I didn't have to try getting a hold of dirty magazines or something.

 

And if we're talking pre-teens, I still don't see the big deal. I was naturally curious. I'd sometimes see things in movies that my dad watched, and it didn't mess me up.

 

Protecting children is all about making parents comfortable and has very little to do with protecting children. If we wanted to really protect children, we'd try to find out the things that are actually damaging to them.

 

We'll see how you feel about that when you're a parent. You knew it was taboo, so you had to wait until your parents left before you could go watch the porn. If it's not a big deal, why not have a wank in front of them?

Now, I'm not saying that 14 year olds have to be prudes....that would be rather hypocritical of me. I'm saying that pre-teens browsing porn is not something I can agree with, mostly cause young people's experiences haven't taught them enough about the world to understand what it's all about.

 

I was allowed to read 'the joy of sex' when i was quite young. Because i was still a long way from puberty, the only thing that it satisfied was my curiosity really. I don't think that something like that could ever demystified sex in the way that actually going out an meeting a willing partner does. And further i certainly didn't become sexualized to a greater or lesser extent through exposure to this book. Your peer group's attitudes towards sex, probably have a greater influence on how you'll end up going about it. Hence english public school boy wearing women's clothing and bumming one another.

 

The joy of sex is a far cry from swap.avi though.

[Root5]

yeah but, masturbating in your own house to porn is hardly out in the public. forget the masturbating part. How about just looking at a picture of a chick with cock stuffed in all of her holes in the living room?

 

Sorry, I don't get what you're trying to say.

 

You first asked me, if I thought porn isn't a big deal, why don't I wank in front of my parents. I understood your point as being that I must secretly think there's something wrong with porn (or I guess masturbation, but they kind of go hand in hand) because I don't do it in front of other people.

 

So I replied that I think there are things that are no big deal, but you still shouldn't do them in front of other people (or I said in public, but you know what I mean). Porn and masturbation are examples of these sorts of things.

 

I could have also brought up that crapping and pissing tend to be other good examples of things that are okay to do, but you shouldn't do them in front of other people, although of course the social boundaries surrounding these activities might vary a bit.

 

So.... What's your point now? I don't understand. I've looked at porn pics on my laptop in the living room, but when no one was around. It might have happened when I was browsing watmm. I don't see the significance of this though.