psn Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Rock musicians accuse each other of using clichés all the time, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mischjok Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 we should make a watmm comp were we abuse all these cliches on all tracks. I´m down with that lol. Someone should make a list with all the cliches listed on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 goddamn, so much hate in watmm. To summarise stuff we don't like: Stuff that fits into subgenres Stuff that doesn't fit into subgenres Instruments Field recordings Things that are still ok: Polyrythms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impakt Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 people whining about cliches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest apeterlives Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 'bad' electronic cliches in this thread: cryptowen: (1) making the main melody a steady 3 note progression on a thick pad that goes all DOOO...DOOOOOO....DAAAAAAAA over & over. (2) Playing 4ths or 5ths or some such (3) putting a reverb preset on it doesn't make it heavily atmospheric (4) sampling dialogue from an old movie without significant alteration (5) slowing down and/or adding reverb to a field recording & calling it a day (6) clean 808s in ambient (7) name-dropping synth gear in your track titles and/or artist name (8) recording your entire album on a tape recorder (9) making your album cover: a picture of clouds, a picture of your gear, an old polaroid, random geometric shape, yek: (10) put lotss of reverb on yer bass drums mokz: (11) 4/4 time signature (12) western sense of tonality (13) amen break (13.5) minute long "wave your hands in the air" breaks npoess: (14) tb303 soundwave: (15) atypical pad chords (16) long boring intros before beat (17) stutter glitch fx 90's idm (18) snare rushes (19) sidechain bass drum (20) swingy minimal house machinedrum beats (21) tr909 (22) tr808 used poorly (23) ambient music w/ piano (24) screechy flat dubstep baseline that have no bass (25) 'found sound' put thru max/msp preset (26) supersaw trance (26.1) sine wave microtonal sounds (26.2) hipster kraut rock modular analogue noodling alcofribas: (27) house with piano (28) atonal idm classical with beats (29) ambient with guitar, delay+reverbs (30) field recording (31) live drums (31) sexy women voices (32) robotic male voices (33) homemade instrument (34) making music with 'processes' -- process over final product (35) 80s themes (36) indie film scores (37) compilation of old tracks (38) working with a vocalist psn: (39) creating a false artist identity aaaah: (40) a fucking gameboy plus brightly colored clothes and bad hair logakght: (41) trying to be aphex kanakori: (42) ambient track longer than 5 min w/ 'undecifrable' women vocals (43) slow track shouting random fruit names (44) acid (45) claps (tururururu tu tu *clap clap* tururururu tu tu) (46) snares (47) hi hats (48) wobling synthlines tech diff: (49) off-grid programming mess (50) NI massive bass patch (51) experimental noise performance (52) evocative orchestral music (53) music that misses the point, expresses nothing (54) epic string/pad sections (55) behind the scenes/making of video gmanyo: (56) rave music with 4:3 cross rhythms mischjok: (57) synth with 1 OSC sine wave (58) repeating same idea ad nauseam (59) have few beat patterns (60) dirty recordings (61) uploading everything (62) nexus presets (63) Deadmau5 kick (64) talking bass (65) FL studio 1st prest fruity delay bank (66) dry drums (67) no velocity on piano lines (68) 3-note chords (69) i VI iv i progression kinski: (70) electronic music o00o: (71) poor arrangement (72) poor melody, harmonics data: (73) take an entire 80s tune, slow it down, it's now your material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 'bad' electronic cliches in this thread: ... That's gonna be some epic tune to include them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (74) everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 This is going to be a hard song to make. Maybe we should make another thread in EKT for making songs using as many as these as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Fuck that I love retro shit, even if it is easy to make. That song data posted is fucking great. Postmodern all the way bitches. *seizes opportunity* check out the rest of my soundcloud (+ albums, eps) if you liked that one. i still don't have one ounce of respect for people who take entire 80s tunes and just slows them down and re-release them as their own material though, fuck those guys. the funny part is most of A few old tunes by BoC sound exactly like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 In retrospect the title of this thread may have been grandiose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Electronic Cliches That Are Bad you should feel bad for using them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 If I had life to do over again, I'd call it Electronic Things That Are Things, and you should feel a thing for using them But I won't change it now because that would be a lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 If I had life to do over again, I'd call it Electronic Things That Are Things, and you should feel a thing for using them But I won't change it now because that would be a lie Legitimate lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechDiff Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think if someone does manage to make a track which incorporates everything on that list, it may well be the most incredible thing ever! My brain is struggling to imagine off the grid 4x4 kick drums with a 4:3 rave type syncopation with 808, 909, real drums and snare rushes, and that's just the tip off the iceberg. whoever manages this will be my hero for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I think if someone does manage to make a track which incorporates everything on that list, it may well be the most incredible thing ever! My brain is struggling to imagine off the grid 4x4 kick drums with a 4:3 rave type syncopation with 808, 909, real drums and snare rushes, and that's just the tip off the iceberg. whoever manages this will be my hero for life Im sure Autechre have already done this somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 goofy modular noodlings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 If sample packs and SW emulation can be can be regarded as x0xs I quickly counted 43 violations for myself from that list. I am lacking behind the new ones like side chaining and supersaw. Better get going I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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