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Sixly sweet year old Autechre Album Released: Exai (WARP234)

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^ Yeah.

 

"Their new stuff is just loose, unedited jams" is the 2010s equivalent of "their new stuff is just pressing play on a random note generator" in the 2000s. If you look back in this thread you'll see the exact same criticisms thrown at Exai--except that I guess now everyone's realized that it's actually ridiculously detailed/deliberate?

 

I do think their newer material tends to have fewer discrete layers than on Draft, Untilted, etc. though. Now the complexity is more embedded in the sound design itself. I think they said in the AAA that the boundary between sound design and sequencing was kind of gone for them. So you have tracks like c7b2 or mesh cinereal where it's hard to mentally divide things into separate layers sound, but where there's actually a ton of crazy shit going on--or c16 deep tread where there's seemingly very few layers but lot of richness and morphology in many of the sounds.

 

Anyways that's my longwinded way of saying that their newer works (at least elseq, I haven't listened to nts much yet tbh) very much feel like "legitimate" releases to me.

That sounds pretty spot on

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this album is such a beast. dense. detailed. sam & rod were definitely not short of ideas here.

 

i still regard this as their last actual 'album'. since then we've gotten live recordings (AE LIVE), extended jams of their tour material (ELSEQ), and the long evolving radio session jams (NTS), but we haven't gotten an actual "album", with all the WARP promotion, round of interviews, artwork, etc that that entails.

 

is there a difference? there is to me. there's something different about an "album" release. more work on the production, editing, mastering.

 

the stuff the've done since then has been cool and i've liked it but i still feel that something is missing. an extra level of polish or production, or depth to the sounds. it's hard to describe but if you put on exai now & listen to it you will immediately hear the difference. i feel like their current max-based system generates so much stuff that they are kind of letting all that output take the lead. lots of extended jams and sketches but not things that feel like finished works somehow.

That "lacking something" is indeed hard to pin down, yet it's evident everywhere on post Exai material. My theory is that on their older stuff, especially Confield, Untilted & Draft, Sean & Rob were grappling with this unruly monster of pure primal energy of sound they'd created, trying to mold it and keep it from escaping and running loose.

And as you mentioned, it's as if now the ideas are let to float around by their own accord more, seemingly with less emphasis on restructuring/editing.

Maybe they finally tamed the beast, or perhaps it's quite a peaceful beast now that it's roaming loose.

Of course this isn't indicative of every single track since Exai, but seems to be a general direction of their material since.

I agree with you both (and also misuta Go, that it's a good thing, with you on that as well). I'd personally exclude AE_LIVE for clarity, as it's really a different beast than elseq or NTS (and is certainly very succinct/edited/structured in many ways, though obviously not entirely). I think NTS is leaning away from the very meandering nature of elseq, though obviously not entirely, it perhaps does so more in a couple tracks. NTS is also seemingly much more 'constructed' and each track feels more complete to my ears. I definitely like it a lot more. Just the nature of NTS sort of constrains things, knowing they were fitting each session into a strict 2 hour time frame, there's by definition some editing involved. 

 

This is the Exai thread though. Exai is pretty good, but I just don't know what they were thinking on a couple tracks. I've warmed partly to some others, and then there's some true classics in there too. This and Oversteps was sort of the beginnings of this whole era it seems, going on ten years now...

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but I just don't know what they were thinking on a couple tracks

 

I'm interested for you to name them

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jatavee C

T ess xi

 

Both have a little bit of interesting /sound design/ lol elements but just pretty weak tracks imo. They've gotten worse to my ears since my original impressions of them, never a good thing.

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I wish I hadn't asked now

 

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:)

 

I warmed up some on runrepik and the one before it, used to skip them almost every time.

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I wish I hadn't asked now

 

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+1

 

 

aux I thought we had something hunny

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^I'm sure it's not just the two of us jader…maybe others will stand up and show themselves bravely.

 

I don't like the beat and vocal one

It's one of the middling tracks imo. A sometimes sort of thing. nodezsh/runrepik/deco Loc/recks on maybe could've been lumped together, a weirdo hip hop EP.

 

 

 

I wish I hadn't asked now

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aux I thought we had something hunny

You don't like NTS even a little so obviously we were never meant to be. :)

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touche 

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jatevee c, t ess xi and deco loc ALL are really fuckin good.

 

worst track on exai is flep. I would skip it if it weren't just the one bum track. maybe itll click one day

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^ Yeah.

 

"Their new stuff is just loose, unedited jams" is the 2010s equivalent of "their new stuff is just pressing play on a random note generator" in the 2000s. If you look back in this thread you'll see the exact same criticisms thrown at Exai--except that I guess now everyone's realized that it's actually ridiculously detailed/deliberate?

 

I do think their newer material tends to have fewer discrete layers than on Draft, Untilted, etc. though. Now the complexity is more embedded in the sound design itself. I think they said in the AAA that the boundary between sound design and sequencing was kind of gone for them. So you have tracks like c7b2 or mesh cinereal where it's hard to mentally divide things into separate layers sound, but where there's actually a ton of crazy shit going on--or c16 deep tread where there's seemingly very few layers but lot of richness and morphology in many of the sounds.

 

Anyways that's my longwinded way of saying that their newer works (at least elseq, I haven't listened to nts much yet tbh) very much feel like "legitimate" releases to me.

yeah

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^ Yeah.

 

"Their new stuff is just loose, unedited jams" is the 2010s equivalent of "their new stuff is just pressing play on a random note generator" in the 2000s. If you look back in this thread you'll see the exact same criticisms thrown at Exai--except that I guess now everyone's realized that it's actually ridiculously detailed/deliberate?

 

I do think their newer material tends to have fewer discrete layers than on Draft, Untilted, etc. though. Now the complexity is more embedded in the sound design itself. I think they said in the AAA that the boundary between sound design and sequencing was kind of gone for them. So you have tracks like c7b2 or mesh cinereal where it's hard to mentally divide things into separate layers sound, but where there's actually a ton of crazy shit going on--or c16 deep tread where there's seemingly very few layers but lot of richness and morphology in many of the sounds.

 

Anyways that's my longwinded way of saying that their newer works (at least elseq, I haven't listened to nts much yet tbh) very much feel like "legitimate" releases to me.

I agree with you completely. I don't really care how a track is made - and I think we can't really know how AE produces his stuff. There is some subtle change of sound and structures in the newer stuff, but I don't think that would mean lesser quality. This change is very hard to grasp, and I mostly think it's based only on a different approach on musical time. Not just that the tracks are longer: that's only the result. But how to build up stuff, how to fill time. To be able to create miniatures: composing short peaces with a lot of stuff going on is not much harder than composing elaborate peaces that fill more time with musical material. Autechre was not only exploring sounds ever since, but exploring compositional methods too. Just like they tried to make rhythmically complex pieces without drums (Oversteps).

So. Elseq and NTS sound perhaps different as Draft but that's not bad. That's necessery. That's good. That's Autechre.

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=D

 

**Cartman voice**

I love you guys.

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^I'm sure it's not just the two of us jader…maybe others will stand up and show themselves bravely.

 

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I love every song on both discs.

This was the album that got me back into AE after Untilted. I didn't really click with Quaristice or Oversteps until about a year after EXAI was released.

It made me fall in love with them all over again.

For a few years this was my favorite Autechre album, and I have great memories with every single track.

=P

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T ess xi

with you on that one.

i love T ess xi. i rmember the first time i listened to exai I waa playing super loud while driving on backwoods roads and the way the melody tranforms into that repeating otherworldly shimmering harmony was one of those burning bush moments

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yjy ux is stil my fav

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Listened to Exai yesterday. First time in a while. Been stuck in elseq and NTS land. Exai is so fucking good.

 

 

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I listened to it on friday. First time to the japanese version, with 9 tracks on each CD. I felt it more complete: YJY UX is an epic closer, with a great sense of a finale, but I feel at this length is good, if the album has a postlude to calm down, an to reflect to all that happended: and 18 (keyosc) just does this excellently. Such a great album.

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Exai is awesome, and was soooo underrated by many people at first... Since "Exai" AE music takes again more time to be fully appreciated.

Elseq is awesome too...and NTS Sessions too. :beer: :beer: :beer:

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so like keyosc as much as others?!  :wtf:

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