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6 minutes ago, iococoi said:

he also did the new hellboy...YIKES..

I really like David Harbour, it was a shame to see his first foray into a AAA film was so bad. It was a mistake from the start when they could have just capped off the OG trilogy, which would have made bank at the box office.

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ah i c..

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Guillermo del Toro was not offered the full writer-director capacity he had performed in the first two films, and Ron Perlman, who portrayed Hellboy in the previous films, refused to return without del Toro's involvement.

 

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20 minutes ago, iococoi said:

ah i c..

 

yeah which was dumb considering how big the films were. Reminds me of how Sony  shafted Spider-man 4 because of Spider-man 3 when they were the reason it was so bad. They wanted Venom in it, and some advisor on their part recommended that Peter Parker dance-off scene. 95% of what was bad about that movie had to do with Venom which was not what Sam Raimi wanted initially as he didn't understand the character. Then they went on to make that awful spider-man reboot with Andrew Garfield where Sony had way too much influence.

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Weird I found some articles saying he decided not to do the third movie. Maybe it was GoT then. I saw an interview recently with Ron Perlman saying they had been trying to do the third one for ten years. But I guess he lost interest.

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5 hours ago, kichiguy said:

I second this. Could you share the deets? Christiane F (1970) was one of the dvd placements I caught onto in the movie during Climax's scene. 

I actually missed that one, cheers!

edit wait its already on my letterboxd watchlist haha

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On 5/16/2019 at 2:17 PM, MadellisTheSixth said:

 

I actually missed that one, cheers!

edit wait its already on my letterboxd watchlist haha

would u mind sharing your letterboxd account? I only have a bot as friend on there ;__: wanna use it more, seems like a nice community there, outside of the posh scrobblenuts

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15 hours ago, chronical said:

would u mind sharing your letterboxd account? I only have a bot as friend on there ;__: wanna use it more, seems like a nice community there, outside of the posh scrobblenuts

yeah def! i'm always checking what my mates have been watching on it for new flicks.

https://letterboxd.com/laurensdl/

worth joining The Film Discord too, some really good discussions on there and lots of letterboxd lists.

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Hey you guys know any good spy movies? But real stuff movies, not james bond or austin powers please.
These I watched:

- Eye of the needle (1981) - I liked the plot, a bit tame though
- The lives of others (2006) - I liked it, a good film, but too drama-ish, not so spy-ish
- The bridge of spies - had high hopes, immaculate craft, but too much propaganda; it's all propaganda actually
- Three days of the condor (1975) - now we're getting somewhere; unfortunately it turned out rather cheesy (the love plot with Dunaway is a bit naive)
- The Ipcress file (1965) - yeah we're getting nearer, but boy did it take long to get to the point (and kind of under-delivered).
- Tinker tailor soldier spy - whatever bad I said about this film, I take it back. It's a great film, with exactly the atmosphere and theme I'm looking for
- the Bourne *ilogy - I like Bourne very much, but after the third part things weren't fresh anymore, and it's not really a spy genre, this is more government hitman style

So I'm looking for proper spy movies (don't care for the era), not some macho, needless love affairs stuff. I want 60s, 70s, 80s when they still went analog with their jobs, dense intrigue, ingenious procedures, not flashy cars and stupid women who fell in love because the script said so...

There was a movie I watched when I was a kid, but I remember just this one scene: It was happening in Soviet russia, the guy (protagonist I think) had to follow the other guy as he went into some squalid restrooms, but because he wasn't armed, he screwed off the gear-shift lever of his Lada car to protect him. I don't know what happened after that anymore. Any recommendations?

 

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2 hours ago, cichlisuite said:

Hey you guys know any good spy movies? But real stuff movies, not james bond or austin powers please.

 

not sure if it's exactly about spies but Gorky Park maybe.. i've not seen it myself but remember it was one of my mum's fave books (which there is a film of, obvs), on the shelf with all the Le Carres.. also, The Spy Who Came In From the Cold.. there are sequels to ipcress file too..

and, well, this won't scratch your itch at all, but it's good - french show The Bureau.. modern day spy/political thingo. it has pesky relationships stuff etc - though it's not macho, much more realistic style - but also heaps of tradecraft, the difficulty of reintegrating into normal life for a returned spy, and those lovely sitting-around-in-offices-and-walking-down-corridors type bits.. one of my fave shows of recent times..

 

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5 hours ago, cichlisuite said:

- Three days of the condor (1975)

I love this one, probably more for the first half than the second. 70's US paranoid thrillers are hard to beat. The Conversation, Klute, The Parallax View (and All The President's Men while we're at it), great movies.

If you've never seen Army of Shadows, I can't recommend it strongly enough. I have to go watch it again now just thinking about it. 

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2 hours ago, eryngi said:

not sure if it's exactly about spies but Gorky Park maybe.. i've not seen it myself but remember it was one of my mum's fave books (which there is a film of, obvs), on the shelf with all the Le Carres.. also, The Spy Who Came In From the Cold.. there are sequels to ipcress file too..

and, well, this won't scratch your itch at all, but it's good - french show The Bureau.. modern day spy/political thingo. it has pesky relationships stuff etc - though it's not macho, much more realistic style - but also heaps of tradecraft, the difficulty of reintegrating into normal life for a returned spy, and those lovely sitting-around-in-offices-and-walking-down-corridors type bits.. one of my fave shows of recent times..

 

Oh right, I forgot about The Spy Who Came in From the Cold, it was very good, but I didn't know it's a sequel to Ipcress. Gorkiy Park looks interesting, it might even be the "guy-who-screws-off-the-gearshift-lever" film I've been looking for.

Do you mean Le Bureau des Legendes? It appears interesting so I'll check it out. Thanks.

2 hours ago, iococoi said:

maybe..

A Most Wanted Man  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1972571

The Good Shepherd https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343737

The Falcon and the Snowman https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087231

 

Thanks, will check out.

25 minutes ago, Crossword Enthusiast said:

The Conversation, Klute, The Parallax View (and All The President's Men while we're at it), great movies.

If you've never seen Army of Shadows, I can't recommend it strongly enough. I have to go watch it again now just thinking about it. 

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Yeah, the Conversation was good, Hackman nailed it. Also the President's men. I might rewatch it since it was years ago. Thanks guys, I have some material for a rainy weekend now:)

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Got a trio of £1 shop (think it was ackcshually a 99p store) straight to DVD horror trash to watch on tonight's shift.

Halfway through this first one now and boy does it suck, fortunately entertainingly so. Corey Feldman's in it!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2002789/?ref_=ttrel_rel_tt

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after this I've got:

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and

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Update: So far in this first movie there's been zombie tiddies and a part where a policeman comes back to life but with black eyes and then says "possession is nine tenths of the law" before snapping a guy's neck. 10/10

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6 hours ago, cichlisuite said:

Oh right, I forgot about The Spy Who Came in From the Cold, it was very good, but I didn't know it's a sequel to Ipcress. Gorkiy Park looks interesting, it might even be the "guy-who-screws-off-the-gearshift-lever" film I've been looking for.

Do you mean Le Bureau des Legendes? It appears interesting so I'll check it out. Thanks.

Thanks, will check out.

yep, that's the one!

and oh, sorry, didn't mean Gorky Park was the IPCRESS sequel..it's unrelated.. 

the sequels are Funeral in Berlin & Billion Dollar Brain (60s) and then Bullet To Beijing & Midnight in St Petersburg (90s)

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Great, now I'm stocked for a while.

Seems like you're much into this stuff. Do you remember seeing a film with a scene where one guy is following the other guy, but it's a dangerous situation and he doesn't have a weapon, so he un-screws the gear-shift lever from his car (it's an east-block generic sedan, like a Lada) and hides it in his trench coat to serve him as a baton? That's all I remember. And it maybe not even be a spy movie. Anyway, there seems to be a lack of cold war spy films from a Soviet perspective, or is it just me? It would be very interesting to see one.

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On 5/11/2019 at 4:07 PM, darreichungsform said:

Looks very interesting. Might watch tomorrow. Thanks for the recommendation

curious: but did you ever get around to watching this? 

On 5/12/2019 at 6:40 PM, melancholera said:

They really should have focused more on the time before he was first caught and not so much on the trials. A lot of the trial stuff exists in real life footage anyway, so it seems kind of pointless. I get that they were trying to show the way that Bundy charmed people, both in his personal life and public/legal persona, but it could have worked much better if it wasn't jumping through the timeline so fast. If you don't have a pre-knowledge of the whole thing, it probably plays like a highlight reel with no coherent narrative. Done well, it could have really pulled the rug under the viewer if it played up the terrible contrast between the acts he committed and the wholesome-ish guy he pretended to be. Part of that would include showing some things that a movie with this kind of cast probably never would. 

i read online that the film was based on his wife's book- which is why you never see any of the murders and it's more about "the way he charmed people". personally i thought it was a terrible choice to make it from that angle as bundy had a lot of interesting things about him that could have made a compelling film

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