may be rude Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, chronical said: I've tried and I'll try again. I think he'd just discredit the "nasa" "government" website because they're "compromised" sources. Which doesn't help with looking at the actual data. ah, ok. it's not easy for people to learn how to check information and assess information sources. it's a long, personal process. but it's important. just don't nod your head or lend credence if he espouses a post-truth attitude. bad actors push to achieve that attitude in people, that's how they nullify truthful reporting that is inconvenient to them. never lend credence to post-truth attitudes. it's possible to dig out an accurate understanding of reality, however limited. ideas can be understood as neither true nor false, but rather as probabilities, contingent on the supporting evidence. it's important for people to learn how to do this. the basic practice you can recommend is checking info against different sources. people get the import of this, and the practice leads to the individual getting a more detailed picture of the conflicting info out there, which then gives them the opportunity to apply themselves to reconciling the disparities, if they choose. the nudge you can give is just to jostle them out of any sedentary bubble. Edited September 17, 2020 by very honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, chronical said: I've tried and I'll try again. I think he'd just discredit the "nasa" "government" website because they're "compromised" sources. Which doesn't help with looking at the actual data. i'd also show him this - it's not so much a climate crisis piece as it is a history of earth's climate. it doesn't require any great leaps to understand. the info is all easily digestible. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/polar-extremes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 nice changes in sort for north america in the next 40 to 60 years https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 more than 1 billion sea creatures were cooked to death in the pacific north west heatwave that happened last week https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/intertidal-animals-ubc-research-1.6090774 https://www.democracynow.org/2021/7/7/headlines/heat_wave_may_have_killed_1_billion_shellfish_other_sea_creatures_on_canadian_coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Nebraska said: more than 1 billion sea creatures were cooked to death in the pacific north west heatwave that happened last week https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/intertidal-animals-ubc-research-1.6090774 https://www.democracynow.org/2021/7/7/headlines/heat_wave_may_have_killed_1_billion_shellfish_other_sea_creatures_on_canadian_coast Then why in the fuck I can't find a decent seafood restaurant these days...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joyrex said: Then why in the fuck I can't find a decent seafood restaurant these days...? it's a buffet now and it's free. just go to the coast. the food is cooked and waiting. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2021/07/07/its-so-hot-that-canadas-sea-creatures-are-cooking-to-their-death-in-their-shells.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Joyrex said: Then why in the fuck I can't find a decent seafood restaurant these days...? restaurants need to update their sea-food preparation methods to "boiled in sea water and including extra plastic" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 cool nyt interactive article on chicago and how the lake rose 6 feet in 7 years https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/07/07/climate/chicago-river-lake-michigan.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Forever chemicals and the great lakes Edited July 9, 2021 by Upset man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 15 hours ago, very honest said: cool nyt interactive article on chicago and how the lake rose 6 feet in 7 years https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/07/07/climate/chicago-river-lake-michigan.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Crazy article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Paywalled article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 This is all so depressing, it's making me think I should stop powering my music studio via coal furnace/ diesel genny and just plug it all into the mains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 death valley will be a blood boiling 128 degrees while anywhere stupid enough to be close to that location will be cooking humans alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 What's 128 degrees in the normal temperature scale that the rest of the world uses please 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Amen Warrior said: What's 128 degrees in the normal temperature scale that the rest of the world uses please 53°C 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdamAnchorman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Amen Warrior said: What's 128 degrees in the normal temperature scale that the rest of the world uses please 587.67°R you're welcome 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefxbip Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I think we're gonna see some wild shit in our lifetimes. Next 100 years will be something. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi Guys Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I am trying to wrap my head around how quickly it actually is all just falling apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdamAnchorman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Upset man said: I am trying to wrap my head around how quickly it actually is all just falling apart. Natural feedback loops love to work in exponential fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, thefxbip said: I think we're gonna see some wild shit in our lifetimes. Next 100 years will be something. yeah i honestly don't feel like things are going to "go back to normal". it's all just going to keep compounding - the environmental stuff, the political tension, the disintegration of cohesive social structure etc. It feels a bit disingenuous (perhaps wishful thinking) when i see news articles now going "face it folks, it's time to get back to the office". to me that just feels like big financial capital trying to squeeze the last bit of toothpaste out of the tube so they can secure their gated farming communities & armed bodyguard militias before shit really starts to fall apart. things aren't going back to normal imo. maybe we'll have a year or two of "kinda" normal. like being on an airplane with the engine stops but it hasn't gone into a nosedive yet, it's just coasting. Like being at a party where everyone can feel some sort of violent confrontation building, but it hasn't occured yet. everyone laughing a little too loud, being a little too jovial, trying desperately to disguise the nervous energy. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitonly Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Cryptowen said: everyone laughing a little too loud, being a little too jovial, trying desperately to disguise the nervous energy. watmm in a nutshell 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extralife Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 48 minutes ago, Cryptowen said: yeah i honestly don't feel like things are going to "go back to normal". it's all just going to keep compounding - the environmental stuff, the political tension, the disintegration of cohesive social structure etc. It feels a bit disingenuous (perhaps wishful thinking) when i see news articles now going "face it folks, it's time to get back to the office". to me that just feels like big financial capital trying to squeeze the last bit of toothpaste out of the tube so they can secure their gated farming communities & armed bodyguard militias before shit really starts to fall apart. things aren't going back to normal imo. maybe we'll have a year or two of "kinda" normal. like being on an airplane with the engine stops but it hasn't gone into a nosedive yet, it's just coasting. Like being at a party where everyone can feel some sort of violent confrontation building, but it hasn't occured yet. everyone laughing a little too loud, being a little too jovial, trying desperately to disguise the nervous energy. Well said. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefxbip Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) The whole humanity is addicted to fossil fuel and technological utopia and we're still in denial stage acting like we don't have a problem. But you know, humans have been through lots of various shit through out history, i think we'll figure it out, but we will probably have to hit a few serious walls before cause humans like to learn the hard way. Edited July 10, 2021 by thefxbip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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