marf Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 If you love Stone In Focus, you'll love this. i dont want to like this,cause its probably some lazy paul stretch job but...its really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I really wish people would stop calling these tracks by these made up names... it's #19, not "stone in focus". Giving these tracks names/descriptions only serve to limit their interpretation. That's why Richard didn't name them to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Good point.. I love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 is my favorite track though is also pretty good. goes on for a bit too long but then you have tracks like that are way too short. Still though, , and are great tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Exactly man. I was talking to a friend about this. He was like "what are you talking about?" I said: "I'm talking about ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 You are all a bunch of asses If you must, refer to it as "#19" (the UK original vinyl tracklisting is the only valid one, since it contains all the tracks). Fun Fact: On (28mix) was a SAW II "leftover" track - I sure would love to see how many tracks he ended up making and then distilling it down to the 25 actually released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 i think whats good about saw 2 is he knew what was good for the tracks and didnt dress them up too much for the sake of showing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanketforts Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 i have an old astralwerks compilation called excursions in ambience and the track in question is on it; it's also called #19 there as well FWIW. also one time in college i was doing math problems and put that track on repeat and after about an hour my roommates came in and asked me what was going on and said they were expecting me to be sitting in the room holding a crystal. stone in focus indeed. anyway, edit: it was "excursions in ambience: the third dimension" FWThat'sW http://www.discogs.com/Various-Excursions-In-Ambience-The-Third-Dimension/master/21194 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The stupid thing is it's called "stone in focus" because the image representing the track on the album is (wait for it)... a stone. in focus. What else would it be? So if it was a picture of a stone out of focus, it would be called that? Silly. It's an ambient track; it doesn't need a "title". Even the numerical designation is superfulous, and only needed for our human need to organize and categorize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuar Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The stupid thing is it's called "stone in focus" because the image representing the track on the album is (wait for it)... a stone. in focus. What else would it be? So if it was a picture of a stone out of focus, it would be called that? Silly. It's an ambient track; it doesn't need a "title". Even the numerical designation is superfulous, and only needed for our human need to organize and categorize. Yes, but people find it easier to recognize things if they are labeled with a certain "identity" instead of an abstract name. Just like how we use DNS addresses for websites instead of using IP addresses, it's easier to remember a name then a meaningless number. I don't know if the images relating to the tracks on SAW II have any context to the sound or production, it's just easier to name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The relative size of the images to each other on the artwork correlates to the track's length as the overall running time. The images were taken by Richard himself, and nothing I've read or heard says the images themselves correlates to the tracks they represent (what's especially confusing is how there are different images for some of the tracks on the US release vs the UK release). You're absolutely right about it being easier - that's why Gonzi Marchan and Alan Perry "named" these tracks in addition to the Caustic Window tracks before they were given official names on the AFX FAQ ages ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 "cliffs" is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I always thought about it being stoned in focus, which has happened on a very slight occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 i quite like the title "stone in focus". it does bring to mind geological time and permanence, so, stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Toffer Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 You are all a bunch of asses If you must, refer to it as "#19" (the UK original vinyl tracklisting is the only valid one, since it contains all the tracks). Fun Fact: On (28mix) was a SAW II "leftover" track - I sure would love to see how many tracks he ended up making and then distilling it down to the 25 actually released. Dang. Hadn't really listened to this track b4.. thanks 4 the mention. Soo good ughh richard is a wizard. Any other ambient gems of his i might've missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterE Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 i have a strong need to latch on to identities and titles, so i made my own titles for every saw track for anyone interested (everyone reading this, prob), here's misterE's track titles for (american cd) SAW II: 1. Speech Impediment Alpha 2. Circus FreakShow Spectacular (Happy Clowns) 3. A Important Feeling 4. A Psychopath (is waiting patiently) 5. Pum Pum, Pum.. Pum 6. Kid Who's Prob Up To No Good But Looks Innocent 7. Cave City 8. Silly Times In a Metal Box 9. say hi to beelzebub, when you meet him, finally 10. #11 11. Wind Chimes + Fake Humans d2: 1. A Fast Clock 2. My Flesh Is Melting 3. Heavy Metal Nerd 4. Grating Noises 5. Mr Bojangles 6. Safari with the Natives (giant stealth lizards in the bush) 7. Coagulated Booby 8. Boring 9. No! Not the Bore Worms! 10. SpaceGravy DeathRay 11. Hack ya brain+ loop it through Jones 12. Synthetic Snakescales Throwback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarion Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 i'm going to called it bone in bocus or maybe Joan In London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The track discussed in this thread along with Cliffs, Rhubarb, Lichen, Grass, and Curtains (along with pretty much every other track on saw II) imho are more beautiful, dreamier and more meditative than anything ive ever heard by William Basinski, Global Communication, Brian Eno or any other ambient/electronic musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 i heard this track first because of david firth, bless his soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whylessness Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I really wish people would stop calling these tracks by these made up names... it's #19, not "stone in focus". Giving these tracks names/descriptions only serve to limit their interpretation. That's why Richard didn't name them to begin with. what about blue calx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 BLUE CALX was a track he did name, so hence it has a name - pretty obvious, no? That, and the fact it was released prior to SAW II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkingtonPugsly Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Listening to #19 AS #19 now and not as stone in focus, and by Robin's crotch it's like a whooooole new track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Is it generally agreed upon that the main synth progression that plays throughout the track could be a heavily manipulated Cello sample (I remember hearing that)? It's a wonderful sound whatever it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarion Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 it's boring i mean what it's just three notes for 10 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Lol at the track naming discussion. Mr J, aren't you taking things too seriously, or do you just need an occasional platform to show us your knowledge? Even if RDJ is still hell bent about these tracks having no names, which i highly doubt, the fact of the matter is these track names are basically well known and commonly used at this point. Which kinda makes the entire discussion useless, imo. Kinda like the autechre peelsession where the original tracknames were lost and John Peel decided to give his own versions. Thank god for the autechre boys for having the flexibility of not sticking to their holy tracknames. It's not like those tracks would sound completely different, right? And if the listener is free to make up his own mind, well apparently a majority decided to go with these unofficial names. Hurrah for democracy. 99 headaches? Stone in focus? Imo, it only adds to the backstory. And you could be that awesome fan who knows the entire backstory! A shining example of fanhood, and what not. And I'm the stupid dork typing this response. Wont do it again, obv. Beautiful boring, btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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