Chris Moss Acid Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I can't understand the fascination with the TR-606, it's a very limited, very boring sounding drum machine that sounds very unlike the 808. !!!!!!!!! ha! the 606 isnt ment to sound like the 808, it has simler sounding bd and sd and toms. thats it the 808 is it's older brother... and personalyl i dont think the 606 is boring at all!! geeze have you heard Universal indicator? that shit was a 606 (idividual outs) its sound fucking mental! (true it was mostly all 4/4 stomp) but still it sounded neato. soon as i heard UI mega mix by mike dred i knew i had to get one! and when i got it i wasnt let down. but i guess its how you use it. but the 606 will always have a special place in my heart (& music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severian Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The world don't move to the beat of just one drum, of course :). Universal Indicator's are great, indeed, but for me and my music and what I want to do in terms of drum sounds and whatnot, a stock 606 does not fulfill my needs. If I were making acid like you it'd go along side all the other Roland gear and be an important part of the sound - but as it is, to me it's nothing special. It makes only a handfull of different noises, and people have been more creative with it in the last 20 or so years than I'll ever be (6IE.6R pretty much putting the last nail in the coffin), so I'm happy to explore other means of making percussion sounds. And that's my full statement, acid police! I guess it's time to go to the hanging tree now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I just got my 606 modded. Its a really pretty mod. the 606 has wonderful hats. If you can't hear that and don't see how they can be so good for your music than I can't help you. Its about variety. Sure the 808 sounds great. Can you please post a sample of your 606 sounding like an 808? I've heard the samples on the various modder's sites, and they all just sound like a nice factory tuned drum sound being "deconstructed" into its component buzzes and bleeps. I.e. like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 being an analord like yourself have you ever played with the Jomox Xbase drum machine? Its one of the best fucking drum machines ive ever played with. Imagine a 909 & 808 clone in one box that has a lot more knobs to tweak the sounds. It does a dead-on 909 impression but the 808 sounds it is capable of don't sound exactly like an 808 but they are damn good. i just picked one up myself for $500 and am quite happy with it. If you want an 808 specific sound you should probably buy an 808 , but in general if you just want good live controls, midi in/out, and really nice bassy analog kicks & snares you can pay less than half an 808 and get a much better machine. I'll see your XBase 09, and rase you an XBase 999: These go for nearly as much as a real 808, but they do a whole lot more. They have a full set of lo fi "percussion" samples from 808, 909 and CR78, PLUS you can load in your own 8bit samples and run them through the analogue EG and LPF. It's also designed to be your master sequencer in your rig, controlling all your other acid boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 being an analord like yourself have you ever played with the Jomox Xbase drum machine? Its one of the best fucking drum machines ive ever played with. Imagine a 909 & 808 clone in one box that has a lot more knobs to tweak the sounds. It does a dead-on 909 impression but the 808 sounds it is capable of don't sound exactly like an 808 but they are damn good. i just picked one up myself for $500 and am quite happy with it. If you want an 808 specific sound you should probably buy an 808 , but in general if you just want good live controls, midi in/out, and really nice bassy analog kicks & snares you can pay less than half an 808 and get a much better machine. I'll see your XBase 09, and rase you an XBase 999: These go for nearly as much as a real 808, but they do a whole lot more. They have a full set of lo fi "percussion" samples from 808, 909 and CR78, PLUS you can load in your own 8bit samples and run them through the analogue EG and LPF. It's also designed to be your master sequencer in your rig, controlling all your other acid boxes. i was considering getting one but the enourmous price tag made me a little disinterested. One of my complaints about the normal 09 is the snare drum sounds inescapably like a 909 snare. Do you own a 999? What other currently made or non roland analog drum machines would you recommend besides the Jomox line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I have an AirBase 99. The rack unit with all the sounds of the 999 less adding your own samples. Yeah, it's hard to get the snare to do the beefy 808 "slap", but with individual outs you can give it its own track and beef it up with EQ and a bit of desk overdrive. I think the JoMoX is the best modern analogue drumbox out there. There's talk of a DIY 808 clone similar to the x0xb0x, and I would be signing up for that puppy if and when. The only other modern option is the Vermona DRM1 / MAM ADX1. These are tweaky modularish things with no patch storage and no claim to x0x emulation. I imagine they'd be pretty hellish as your main beat box, but a lot of fun in addition to something a bit more productive. The Vermona is also the only modern analogue with analogue hats and clap. I have a 606 which I bought for the hats, but I use it for the snare as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I have an AirBase 99. The rack unit with all the sounds of the 999 less adding your own samples. Yeah, it's hard to get the snare to do the beefy 808 "slap", but with individual outs you can give it its own track and beef it up with EQ and a bit of desk overdrive. I think the JoMoX is the best modern analogue drumbox out there. There's talk of a DIY 808 clone similar to the x0xb0x, and I would be signing up for that puppy if and when. The only other modern option is the Vermona DRM1 / MAM ADX1. These are tweaky modularish things with no patch storage and no claim to x0x emulation. I imagine they'd be pretty hellish as your main beat box, but a lot of fun in addition to something a bit more productive. The Vermona is also the only modern analogue with analogue hats and clap. I have a 606 which I bought for the hats, but I use it for the snare as well. i was very close to buying a vermona, but chose the xbase 09 instead due to its 16-step sequencer. When you say they are modularish do they have some sort of matrix or patch-bay ? The ones ive seen just have a shit load of knobs but ive only looked at one of them. have you ever played with the simmons bassdrum/tom/snare modules? SOme of the sounds on those evoke serious 80s memories. The HBO movie intro music seems like it was made with a simmons unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Simmons sounds are piss easy to get with samples tho. And yeah, lots of cultural baggage there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Here is my new modded 606 It has a wonderful midi retrofit with velocity. Velocity is not too common. I basically see it as a source for another snare amd mostly a variety of different hats. I can do triplets and such with the midi. Or lfo patterns on the hats because of the velocity. I wish I could get a cv control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Here is my new modded 606 It has a wonderful midi retrofit with velocity. Velocity is not too common. I basically see it as a source for another snare amd mostly a variety of different hats. I can do triplets and such with the midi. Or lfo patterns on the hats because of the velocity. I wish I could get a cv control. looks nice! i think edmx has Home-made modulation CV interface. check it out http://www.durftal.com/music/edmx/dmxstudio/keys.htm click what you wanna learn about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 can you make a track with your modded 606? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 no, you can't because it's modded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 no, you can't because it's modded i was asking marf to make a track, not you. go and listen to laibach or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 no, you can't because it's modded i was asking marf to make a track, not you. go and listen to laibach or something. don't tell Marf to go listen to Laibach!! I tell you to go listen to Sharkbait and Tackhead!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Its still in England with the tech. When I get it back I'll put up some samples. If I can figure out a way to record it as I don't have a decent soundcard. So it might sound like shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I meant I wish I could get CV control of my 606 so I could play it with an analog sequencer or lfo control. Not midi TO cv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Last post by Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I meant I wish I could get CV control of my 606 so I could play it with an analog sequencer or lfo control. Not midi TO cv. i think then your breakout box would be bigger than the 606. :grin: also, the cv ins would be getting converted to digital internally, so you might as well just do the cv-midi thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Magoo Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 what does that mod do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 It changes the sounds. I don't need a midi to cv thing. I got midi retro fitted w/ velocity. Im not a huge fan of midi though. As far as cv, the guy who did the mod thought it could be done with vactrols ..Light senstive leds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josso Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nice, how much did it cost you to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 what's wrong with laibach? have you heard the new album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 check it out http://www.durftal.com/music/edmx/dmxstudio/keys.htm click what you wanna learn about So uhh, reading his writeup on the K2000R that he owns... am I to understand that Ed DMX doesnt have an 808???? WTF?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 yes, you are. it's all samples and they sound fuckin good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 It's just hillarious. I always assumed guys who did this for a living would of course have the premium gear. His studio is borderline comical, which makes me love him that much more. I drool over that Modular though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 check it out http://www.durftal.com/music/edmx/dmxstudio/keys.htm click what you wanna learn about So uhh, reading his writeup on the K2000R that he owns... am I to understand that Ed DMX doesnt have an 808???? WTF?? yes, you are. it's all samples and they sound fuckin good. he borrowed his mates, and sampled it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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