Guest Rulohead32 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 ''LOL'' - Arthur Schopenhauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's probably just too hard to translate what Ae do into a place in pop culture. Their approach is very different and comes from being masters of the process, which is not something many people can do, especially the way they do it. Each album is shaped by the limitations they impose on themselves with the equipment they choose and methods like generative music, etc. etc. Probably too many other things to mention that I'm not aware of. It's clearly an abstraction and blend of many other types of music like dub, electro, hip hop, drum and bass, ambient, etc into something that resembles wild style graffiti in the form of music. I'm pretty sure they even said to think of their music as wildstyle graffiti, where you can recognize that there are words written on a wall (hints at certain genres). But what's more interesting than the actual words are the otherworldly abstractions made from those words. The words are the frame, the anchor that lets you know it's not just a very interesting scribble. Not just noise, it's music. But how many people can be bothered to investigate this, or keep coming back for more? To respond to your original question, I think that when music journalists use the word "relevant", they really mean the current style that's hot right now, or topical lyrics. Nothing more than that. So I guess they are not relevant in that way, but their approach to music comes from the drive of pure exploration, mastery, and control of sound for its own sake. The pioneers doing the real dirty work. Undeniably relevant. - Roger Ebert and Anthony Fantano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 "Shut up and listen to my album" - Mike Paradinas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xpr Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Too many great answers to qoute! Too many great gifs! Well this thread turn out to be quite the rollercoaster. Candiru probably hit the nail on the head in that Autechre will always and should always be relevant because of the punk attitude they bring to electronic music. Being musical graffiti is the best conceptualisation I could think of. Yes I wanna throw the word "punk" in here and see where it goes. I mean by punk a certain attitude towards creativity and music that totally upsets the status quo. They did it in the 90s, in the 00s (perhaps not as influential as the previous decade) and they continue to do it today. I haven't read through all of the Oversteps discussions here, but one of my initial reactions to that album and to the title is that is a comment on dubstep. Viewing that way, autechre seems to be very much aware of what's going on and trying to create an antidote for what the percieve to be a culture in desperate need of one. And that's totally a punk way of doing things. I also think that is why Oversteps sounds they way it does, like the complete antithesis of Skrillex and the likes. Then there's another question of Oversteps actually being influential and accomplishing the task it sets out for itself, bringing the antidote to market. Exai though I'm having a harder time pinning down in a similar sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Viewing that way, autechre seems to be very much aware of what's going on and trying to create an antidote for what the percieve to be a culture in desperate need of one. And that's totally a punk way of doing things. I also think that is why Oversteps sounds they way it does, like the complete antithesis of Skrillex and the likes. I think you're totally over thinking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Viewing that way, autechre seems to be very much aware of what's going on and trying to create an antidote for what the percieve to be a culture in desperate need of one. And that's totally a punk way of doing things. I also think that is why Oversteps sounds they way it does, like the complete antithesis of Skrillex and the likes. I think you're totally over thinking this. aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Holy shit this is a great thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 AE Subforum still the best subforum. All the other subforums can suck a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 *stands on tip-toes and spies over fence at boc subforum* Pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 autechre seems to be very much aware of what's going on and trying to create an antidote for what the percieve to be a culture in desperate need of one. "aye sean makin beats its cool n all but u no why dont we take it a bit furtha and like become cultural messiahs and save culture for all mankind n shit" "fockin a" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 *stands on tip-toes and spies over fence at boc subforum* Pretty much heheh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adam Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 hey check out this punk rock cover of skrillex, its better than autechre https://soundcloud.com/ketek/skrillex-scary-monsters-nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 AE Subforum still the best subforum. All the other subforums can suck a dick. Right, right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beariksson Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 AE Subforum still the best subforum. All the other subforums can suck a dick. "Right, right!" -Arthur Schopenhauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOS Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 OP: Autechre are two dudes who have a passion for composing music with electronic means. That's all there is really - we could stop here, in this very abstract and stupendously obvious fact, yet we'd be 100% correct about it. Everything else is unimportant - if the listener enjoys, that's fine; if they don't, that's fine they can must go f*ck themselves. I mean, when you say 'put your personal opinion aside', what's left is just this 'fact'. If we put some more of this thing called 'personal opinion/judgement' to the mix, I would immediately say that Autechre's musical output is extraordinarily 'rich' (i.e., 'varying'), described by innovation, a tendency for not repeating themselves, a focus on music-making and sound-exploration as opposed to gimmicky/patended sound or relying to one-trick-pony music techniques or cliches, immense sonic craftsmanship and a high degree of originality. Booth and Brown have inspired many composers from various genres as well as musical instrument manufacturers; they are also known to receive a) massive praise as well as b) mixed feelings from the Receptors (press, fans, etc.). This latter point (b) proves once again the band's ingenuity (i.e., composers like Xenakis, John Cage are known for having caused such mixed reactions). Whether Autechre are considered 'relevant anymore' to a 'larger cultural context' (i.e., whether they are still 'worthy of attention/respect' or not) is a problematic question that asks for an even more problematic range of answers. As I said in the previous post, the question is whether the receiving end is mature enough to postpone unnecessary criticism and appreciate the band's music. When you have magazines like Bitchdork in the year 2013 giving records a grade as if we're in primary school, it is very logical to assume that some part of this 'larger cultural context' is still highly immature and promotes immature critical thinking. Anyway, I could go on. Nice topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 "pissing blood and pieces of meat, how will i rid myself of these filthy scum guppies" - Arthur Schopenhauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Autechre have always been where relevance eventually catches up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 "Shut up and listen to my album" - Mike Paradinas "Hey!" *fist pumps* "I'm in a Euro Club!" -Rob Brown "Hey!" *fist pumps* "I'm in your punani!" -Mike Paradinas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 this thread is kawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 *self-fisting b/c of this thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 PLOT TWIST: Autechre splits up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 PLOT TWIST, TWIST: Autechre splits up your genitals. And you beg for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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