modey Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm in the process of starting a project that uses metal instrumentation to make music that has elements of krautrock and minimal techno, but am wondering if any bands have beaten me to it. Do any of you watmmers know of bands that do this? I'm thinking fast, repetitive riffs, static/non-changing drumming (even drum machines—Godflesh comes to mind), maybe some psychedelic ambience or effects, and minimal vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah, I'm specifically thinking of the intensity of metal, but with the repetition of kraut rock. I guess even like a sped up version of Earth or something. I guess Meshuggah's recent output comes close, but I want to go even further into minimalism. Kinda like if My Disco did metal: Could this actually be an untapped area of metal?! Could I actually be on to something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Nah, not long drones; faster than that. The riffs I'm working on have undertones of Isis/Godflesh but also a bit of chuggy thrash style, perhaps. Hard to explain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 orthrelm OV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 orthrelm OV Just started listening on Spotify. This is very close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Maybe something with less high-register stuff though, haha. If those riffs were played two octaves lower it'd be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b born droid Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah, I'm specifically thinking of the intensity of metal, but with the repetition of kraut rock. I guess even like a sped up version of Earth or something. I guess Meshuggah's recent output comes close, but I want to go even further into minimalism. Kinda like if My Disco did metal: Could this actually be an untapped area of metal?! Could I actually be on to something here? I think you might be. Sounds interesting. I feel like it's somethign I've heard but can't put my finger on it. Meshuggah also sprung to mind, but really just the opening minute or so of 'I'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm in the process of starting a project that uses metal instrumentation to make music that has elements of krautrock and minimal techno, but am wondering if any bands have beaten me to it. Do any of you watmmers know of bands that do this? I'm thinking fast, repetitive riffs, static/non-changing drumming (even drum machines—Godflesh comes to mind), maybe some psychedelic ambience or effects, and minimal vocals. I was ready to type Earth until I read "fast" and then "drum machines" lol - I guess you would of just gone with drone doom and sludge. But speaking of masters of those genres of metal, Boris released this: ^there's another version they recorded that's a lot cleaners sounding, even poppy in production, on New Album - not on youtube but on Spotify for sure. Atoms Mothers Temple comes to mind. Plenty of albums to check out: A lot of Expo 70 - a guitarist I saw at a show by chance and now follow in the tape scenes - fits the heavy krautrock/kosmische sound, especially the motorik beats via vintage drum machine percussion, but I wouldn't say it's fast, mid-tempo at best. I need to seek out more of his peers, seem to be a lot doing heavy and psychedelic music that channels old space rock and kraut. I think you're on to something fairly unique in your efforts honestly, it's a template with a lot of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Jesu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 sleep? dopesmoker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 sleep? dopesmoker? too slow this is probably the closest thing I can think of, in terms of intensity/energy/minimalism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciRxrlTFGc Actually that's almost exactly what I want. Anyone know of more stuff like that? (that particular song, not other Liturgy songs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Lighting Bolt (maybe?) Speaking of Liturgy: http://www.last.fm/tag/transcendental%20black%20metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Nah, like I said, just like that one Liturgy song; it's pretty different to their other stuff. Lightning Bolt have the minimal instrumentation, but their arrangements are still pretty elaborate in comparison to what I'm looking for. Maybe I'll try to get an example together over the next few days. Actually, here's something I came up with a while ago: Your browser does not support the HTML5 audio tag http://pselodux.com/audio/precursors%201.mp3 It's a bit slower than what I want to eventually work with but it's a start. (ignore the vocals; they're just a placeholder and thus pretty terrible haha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 glenn branca? lol [youtubehd]biA2Y9XanfY[/youtubehd] i know you said no lightning bolt, but this song does immediately come to mind [youtubehd]72w7d4AZSmE[/youtubehd] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 orthrelm OV Seconded. Anything by Mick Barr really. His Annwn project is drumless, also interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 glenn branca? lol [youtubehd]biA2Y9XanfY[/youtubehd] that's actually the closest example anyone's posted in this thread so far. The Lightning Bolt track was ok. I just can't get into the vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I give up... http://youtubedoubler.com/asHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 His Annwn project is drumless, also interesting. that's fucking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 While I think it's overly poppy and complex at times, I have to mention Boris' New Album again - I hadn't heard anything quite like it in that genre, let alone their own discography. They use a lot of digital and glitchy percussion instead of their trademark heavy and slugglish guitar and drums. 8:40 to 17:00 and 27:15 onward in particular... Beyond seconding Jesu and Godflesh, I'm out of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 5ive Not the pop band 5ive but the metal band 5ive Would post samples but am posting from iPhone uselessly edit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Alright, I'm gonna conclude that this is a somewhat original idea, at least at the level of minimalism I plan to use. Hooray! Of course, it may end up sounding terrible, but I can only try. I think it'd be a good live experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 5ive Not the pop band 5ive but the metal band 5ive Would post samples but am posting from iPhone uselessly edit: ooh, very close, gonna have to check them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yep, really loving this 5ive stuff. A little different to my idea but pretty fucking awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Shit, that 5ive track is currently blowing my socks off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 *skipping to end of thread* (but gonna listen to all of that stuff) first thing that came to mind was O.L.D. (James Plotkin): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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