Guest Yegg Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Zizek is simultaneously the nicest and sweatiest person I've ever met. I wish he would take me under his tutelage so we could watch movies and tell each other vulgar jokes all day. Has anyone seen The Pervert's Guide to Ideology yet? I'd like to know what people thought about the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I've watched it. I liked it but it's Zizek on autopilot, the usual recycled thing. What I liked best was that he reprised his point on how you can bring down an apparatus by attacking the ideal common people it caters for. Now that protests are unclear on whether they are for going forwards or for going backwards to a supposed original state of middleclassness, that seems like the right point to make. Have you watched Liebe dein Symptom wie dich selbst? Good one, I love the bit where he's walking by a theatre looking at the film posters saying "oh, this one is disgusting... this one is shit... this one is clearly too right wing..." It's on youtube. P.S.: Maybe I shouldn't be that quick to criticise Zizek's recycling of quotes, though. Bruno Bosteels says that for him these sorts of things are like a new version of Lacan's mathemes, and the more I think about it the more sense it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The firs thing I thought when I first saw a picture of Zizek is that Jeff Daniels Character from, The Squid and the Whale, is like directly taken from him. (appearance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The firs thing I thought when I first saw a picture of Zizek is that Jeff Daniels Character from, The Squid and the Whale, is like directly taken from him. (appearance) Heh heh. By the way, yegg, so you've met the man in person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitze Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 The firs thing I thought when I first saw a picture of Zizek is that Jeff Daniels Character from, The Squid and the Whale, is like directly taken from him. (appearance) Heh heh. By the way, yegg, so you've met the man in person? Swoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 oh, and I almost forgot: Zizek on Aphex Twin. Sadly there's a German dub covering his voice... The firs thing I thought when I first saw a picture of Zizek is that Jeff Daniels Character from, The Squid and the Whale, is like directly taken from him. (appearance) Heh heh. By the way, yegg, so you've met the man in person? Swoon zizek pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 i shook his hand after a lecture in dc once. he looked past me and at my then girlfriend, who was bending over slightly, and down her shirt. the same thing happened with umberto eco, though eco actually licked his lips and winked at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 i shook his hand after a lecture in dc once. he looked past me and at my then girlfriend, who was bending over slightly, and down her shirt. the same thing happened with umberto eco, though eco actually licked his lips and winked at me. flol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Have you watched Liebe dein Symptom wie dich selbst? Good one, I love the bit where he's walking by a theatre looking at the film posters saying "oh, this one is disgusting... this one is shit... this one is clearly too right wing..." It's on youtube. What an interesting guy. Didn't know him, thx OP for the heads up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I've watched it. I liked it but it's Zizek on autopilot, the usual recycled thing. What I liked best was that he reprised his point on how you can bring down an apparatus by attacking the ideal common people it caters for. Now that protests are unclear on whether they are for going forwards or for going backwards to a supposed original state of middleclassness, that seems like the right point to make. Have you watched Liebe dein Symptom wie dich selbst? Good one, I love the bit where he's walking by a theatre looking at the film posters saying "oh, this one is disgusting... this one is shit... this one is clearly too right wing..." It's on youtube. P.S.: Maybe I shouldn't be that quick to criticise Zizek's recycling of quotes, though. Bruno Bosteels says that for him these sorts of things are like a new version of Lacan's mathemes, and the more I think about it the more sense it makes. I enjoyed parts of it too but you're right, it's Zizek on autopilot rehashing the same points he's been making for years. I liked his section on Rammstein the most. After the screening, we had a conversation about the band and political correctness which was cool because I've never heard him go on at length about the subject. I've started Liebe dein Symptom a few times before but haven't finished it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 i shook his hand after a lecture in dc once. he looked past me and at my then girlfriend, who was bending over slightly, and down her shirt. the same thing happened with umberto eco, though eco actually licked his lips and winked at me. flol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 i shook his hand after a lecture in dc once. he looked past me and at my then girlfriend, who was bending over slightly, and down her shirt. the same thing happened with umberto eco, though eco actually licked his lips and winked at me. flol Lol, from Zizek in person to Zizek in prison. I've watched it. I liked it but it's Zizek on autopilot, the usual recycled thing. What I liked best was that he reprised his point on how you can bring down an apparatus by attacking the ideal common people it caters for. Now that protests are unclear on whether they are for going forwards or for going backwards to a supposed original state of middleclassness, that seems like the right point to make. Have you watched Liebe dein Symptom wie dich selbst? Good one, I love the bit where he's walking by a theatre looking at the film posters saying "oh, this one is disgusting... this one is shit... this one is clearly too right wing..." It's on youtube. P.S.: Maybe I shouldn't be that quick to criticise Zizek's recycling of quotes, though. Bruno Bosteels says that for him these sorts of things are like a new version of Lacan's mathemes, and the more I think about it the more sense it makes. I enjoyed parts of it too but you're right, it's Zizek on autopilot rehashing the same points he's been making for years. I liked his section on Rammstein the most. After the screening, we had a conversation about the band and political correctness which was cool because I've never heard him go on at length about the subject. I've started Liebe dein Symptom a few times before but haven't finished it. Oh, that's nice! I'm afraid if I'd meet Zizek, I'd ask him about Althusser or some theoretical shit and he'd be all uncomfortable and leave saying something like "disgusting idiots my god". Yeah, the bit about Rammstein and giving a healthy release to the libido that would usually end up in fascist gestures is interesting also. I'm also thinking about Devo and others, which is a bit like the opposite (turns out they were really serious about the flowerpots being energy accumulators, heh heh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 i shook his hand after a lecture in dc once. he looked past me and at my then girlfriend, who was bending over slightly, and down her shirt. the same thing happened with umberto eco, though eco actually licked his lips and winked at me. fuck. that bit about Umberto gave me the chubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'd definitely ask him about his "rivalry" with Judith Butler. Those writings are by far my favorite that I've read of his. It's almost like he felt pressed to be far more concise in his critiques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I read Did Somebody Say Totalitarianism two month ago and felt kinda frustrated about it because I really didn't understand all of it ; I really enjoyed the simpler parts of it though. I'd like to read another one soon, maybe someone has a recommendation ? I guess I'm mostly interested about his vision of politics, and I'd like to find an easier book than this previous one. Oh and The Pervert Guide To Cinema was really awesome, I've to check the new film eventually. And I've to thanks WATMM for discovering Zizek because this other thread about him is one of the reason which made me buying that book I first read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I read Did Somebody Say Totalitarianism two month ago and felt kinda frustrated about it because I really didn't understand all of it ; I really enjoyed the simpler parts of it though. I'd like to read another one soon, maybe someone has a recommendation ? I guess I'm mostly interested about his vision of politics, and I'd like to find an easier book than this previous one. Oh and The Pervert Guide To Cinema was really awesome, I've to check the new film eventually. And I've to thanks WATMM for discovering Zizek because this other thread about him is one of the reason which made me buying that book I first read. The Sublime Object of Ideology is a good intro (to his more complex side), although he has changed his positions a fair bit since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'd definitely ask him about his "rivalry" with Judith Butler. Those writings are by far my favorite that I've read of his. It's almost like he felt pressed to be far more concise in his critiques. Yeah I saw Judith Butler speak here about a year ago. She wasn't really presenting any of her gender theory stuff, it turned out to be a "Jews for Palestinians" support speech and during the Q&A, someone brought up Zizek and she got annoyed and flustered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 last week I talked to Judith Butler about a photograph in a gallery I was at. Then she asked me where I though the bathroom was. I said down the hall. She smiled and went on her way. I saw her leave and then went and took a massive beer shit on the same toilet. I feel like I learned something about performativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 checkin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Atom Dowry Firth Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Bought The Pervert's Guide to Cinema a few years ago and still haven't watched it - started it once and the way the sound was mixed really annoyed me so I stopped. Should give it another go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LimpyLoo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I think Zizek is intelligent enough but I think he's purposely obtuse. I've read Being and Nothingness and Finnegans Wake and they were crystal clear next to Zizek's ramblings. The point of language is communication and--like Tom Jenkinson--it seems like Zizek prioritizes expensive-sounding language over actual communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest No Pomo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Dude an Eventide Orville is expensive, but it's not that expensive, you're just lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Dude an Eventide Orville is expensive, but it's not that expensive, you're just lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 *scratches my asburjers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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