Guest fiznuthian Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 But... what if 95% of the time i'm not anxious or depressed? I honestly feel pretty good otherwise. I was scared by the way my body is acting, but I honestly can say at this point in my life i'm a pretty happy person.. I have bouts of frustration but most days are pretty good I think. I don't know.. i'm getting the MRI anyway, and hoping the neurologist gives me a thorough look. I definitely do not want to go to a psychiatrist to be put on an anti-depressant when quite frankly I don't feel depressed or like i'm being crushed by the weight of anxieties. I'm a little awkward socially but shit.. who isn't? Thanks for the advice anyway. Watmm looking out... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 You'll be super duper fine, dawg. 4real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glasse Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Anxiety disorder isn't like the colloquial use of anxiety. It is a true neurological disorder and doesn't always manifest as anxiety as you would think of feeling stressed out. Feeling a loss of motor coordination is actually a common symptom and a large amount of people report thinking they had MS, neural or brain damage and so on. Take a look at this forum thread you might find it helpful. Also, I haven't been to a psychiatrist since I was in school, my family doctor was able to diagnose and prescribe my meds. I had a neurologist appointment scheduled but ended up canceling it once the prozac took full effect. http://www.anxietyzone.com/index.php?topic=9832.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 That's very interesting and insightful. I suppose it's reasonable to renounce and assume this could be anxiety related. Still going to get checked (and get that damn MRI) regardless. Better safe than sorry. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Speaking from experience. When your health is really bad and you are not able to pinpoint what it is that is ailing you then you tend to become a wreck and start misdiagnosing yourself. What helped me was beginning to understand nutrition better and really disciplining myself about my diet and supplementation. After I did that many of my ailments disappeared or improved some of which I thought were indicators of a serious problem. My advice to you, especially if you aren't in tip top shape physically, is to buckle down on it and start learning about it then stick to it. Really if you aren't physically at 100% your not going to be 100% mentally either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Speaking from experience. When your health is really bad and you are not able to pinpoint what it is that is ailing you then you tend to become a wreck and start misdiagnosing yourself. What helped me was beginning to understand nutrition better and really disciplining myself about my diet and supplementation. After I did that many of my ailments disappeared or improved some of which I thought were indicators of a serious problem. My advice to you, especially if you aren't in tip top shape physically, is to buckle down on it and start learning about it then stick to it. Really if you aren't physically at 100% your not going to be 100% mentally either. Yeah that's not a problem. You'd have a hard time finding someone who is more obsessed with nutrition I think.. I exercise a lot too, but am not the type to pump iron constantly in gyms. Who knows.. :X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Are your lymph nodes swollen or do you have a sore throat along with these? Swollen tonsils? Fever, night chillls? Painful tooth? If its been around for 2-4 weeks and you don't have those then it is probably not a virus. It sounds like it might be either an infection or something in your environment (i.e. allergies) Also anxiety is the biggest killer when it comes to catastrophizing illnesses. Just try to remember that doing self diagonsis on you is not going to tell you what you have: a return phone call from the doctor will. Try to take your mind off the symptoms by distracting yourself with friends and activities and get lots of sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Depression and anxiety can manifest in somatic ways. also, an MRI is simultaneously terrifying and relaxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest totemcrackerjack Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Get an MRI definitely. What you described could be a mild withdrawal from weed, due pressures of your system now needing to produce its own endocannabinoids for once. However, your symptoms could point towards parkinson's disease, but please don't sweat it. PD is caused by a reduction in neurons within a regulatory cortical region (SNr) within the basal ganglia, controlled predominantly through dopamine, so weed would not affect this cortical pathway in any form. Chronic cigarettes/tobacco use on the other hand... I'm not a doctor, and have yet to earn a Phd, so listen to my bantering with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Having zero qualifications other than being a human I would say that you should probably get a full diagnostic blood test done if you want to spend money on your health. Make sure all your levels are in their appropriate ranges. thyroid, cholesterol, testosterone, leptin resistance, glucose levels, etc. Lots of places offer really thorough blood work these days that can at the very least help you pin point any dietary deficiencies you may have. You can also identify if you are suffering systemic inflammation or immune system reactions which can definitely contribute to elevated anxiety. I would also recommend seeing a chiropractor & massage therapist if you sense you suffer from misalignment, pains, or tightness regarding your spine. Spinal pressure/problems can cause surprising nervous system issues with other areas of your body. I suggest these options because they are possibly things your doctors may not evaluate and they have a huge impact on your physiological well being. You might also try biofeedback and HRV monitoring to assist you in identifying and controlling anxiety and mood. HRV can also be used to identify food sensitivities that may not be noticeable to you. I've not tried bf or hrv but there are lots of cheapish options out there like heartmath. I am interested in experimenting with it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12_deficiency before you dismiss it, there are other causes other than diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Nutritional deficiencies are for the most part based on diet except for things like vitamin D which really can't be satisfied through diet alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Nutritional deficiencies are for the most part based on diet except for things like vitamin D which really can't be satisfied through diet alone. some people cant 'synthesize' or metabolize b12 for whatever reason, even if they eat meat, and those individuals need to receive injections or their nervous system may fail. http://chriskresser.com/b12-deficiency-a-silent-epidemic-with-serious-consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Cool, thanks for more of the tips guys. :) MRI is the first to go down without a doubt.. the anxiety/depression is still kind of strange and doesn't sit right yet. For quite a long time now (excluding a brief period of emotional eating junk shit) i've eaten exclusively some combination of meat, eggs, pastured butter, coconut oil, vegetables, fruits, nuts, occasional seeds, 85%+ cocoa bars, and occasional fermented foods. My diet tends to stay fairly low carbohydrate and by 99%+ people's standards i'm probably considered extreme about my food. I almost never eat out at a restaurant unless i'm stuck with it and even then i'm picking apart the menu to eliminate cheap oxidant-prone oils, and refined/manufactured anything. Ideally I strive for a diet rich in saturated fats, fat-soluble vitamins (D3,K2,retinol), and the rest is just cramming nutrient density. Despite this is does sound like a good idea to get nutrient deficiencies checked as eating them is half the battle.. absorption is another issue altogether. Not much info ofcourse, but the hospital blood/urine analysis came back flawless.. inflammation appears low, BG perfect, BP perfect, cholesterol/trigs perfect, WBC count solid, and everything else more than okay. Anti-nuclear antibodies are low, creatine kinase is low, and my sed rate while slightly elevated in one lab resumed back to normal at lower end of the reference ranges..Lymph nodes aren't inflammed, no headaches really, teeth are strong and not inflamed, no fever, no night chills or abnormal body temps, no back pain to speak of but the neck is stiff.. Took a very long bike ride today and despite having been a while I felt like a beast on the pedals. Heart was in fantastic shape. Kinda feeling bad this turned into a "lets diagnose fiznuthian" thread.. maybe my ears are just clogged wicked bad and i'm being a giant pussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 you've gotten a lot of good advice in this thread! as someone who is beginning to realize the extent & seriousness of my own depression, I can say too that it's taken a long time to realize my baseline is so low. As in, I would freak out when having an attack or whatever, but then try to shrug off the general shittiness I felt outside of the attacks. So it's possible that your baseline for anxiety is higher than you think. Anyway, please let us know how everything turns out, and I hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fiznuthian Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Thanks for looking out A/D. I think maybe you guys were right and the anxiety/worrying/hypochondria was absolutely doing me in.. I've been eating like a champ, exercising a lot like usual, and generally just doing my normal thing and now a week later i'm quite happy and feeling normal again. Maybe i'm just happy to be fine again or something but i've been walking around with a smile on my face like someone slipped something in my water... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I've been exercising a lot like usual why a lot? don't over do it. 15-30 min of moderate activity daily would be much better second, go and talk to a psychiatrist. i know that psychiatry is still stigmatized but don't be one of those and don't let this episode pass easily cause it'll come back sooner or later. you need someone to talk to without hurry and who will understand your position in detail and objectively. also, you can see your situation like this >>> english word for a patient is a perfect one, really. every sickness has it 'purpose' in changing us into 'better' human beings starting by teaching us how to be patient. patience is one of the noble characteristics (if not the most noble one) cause it's formed of other noble characteristics such as rectitude, consistency, clemency/compassion... i'm sure you can recognize/feel those in yourself more now. depression and anxiety do this more than others. sickness can be an opportunity to change and not everyone can/want to change. maybe they think they don't need to change, that they're perfect (especially now in our narcissistic society) but i think they're always wrong. what you want of me to be? change to what, they could ask?! but imo we can always be better to us and to others. change happens when we find the reasons to be better to us and to others. well, that was just one way we can look at it. there are other ways too look at it of course, which are more popular i'm sure. i hope this quasi-religious philosophic litany wasn't offensive to you in any way possible. i didn't presume that you're bad person in any way, it's just the opposite. our path to higher cognition and happiness never flows easily so we resist to change and sickness helps in breaking the resistance IF we have capacity to prosper which i'm sure you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 auwwff! i just saw that you're from the states and because you don't have a social system like we do in eu so all the medical examinations and therapies can be very expensive for you and i don't know what's your status but talk to your family doctor and ask him how to prioritize further treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghsotword Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Depression and anxiety can manifest in somatic ways. also, an MRI is simultaneously terrifying and relaxing. yes, the sounds that the MRI scan machines make are like some weird kind of minimal techno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aj2QspPf7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Depression and anxiety can manifest in somatic ways. also, an MRI is simultaneously terrifying and relaxing. yes, the sounds that the MRI scan machines make are like some weird kind of minimal techno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aj2QspPf7s typical raster-noton :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'd guess your fine. By all means get them checked out and whatever, but don't worry about it too much. Your symptoms seem like a combination of aging and anxiety. I notice that you're 26. I'm around that age too, and I've noticed more body aches, trouble recovering from exercise, loss of appetite, etc. That's just your body falling apart as you get older. No biggie. The other stuff could easily be anxiety. Anxiety symptoms can be directly physical without any worry. These symptoms can include some pretty extreme stuff like temporarily going blind, passing out, or developing hives. Hope this all gets sorted out and stuff. EDIT: I had an MRI once. I was a seriously awesome IDM experience. Hope you have fun in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Lol at 26 being old. Also nothing wrong with exercising a lot as long as you're not injuring yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Lol at 26 being old. That transition from invincibility to regular mortality. You know, there's actually a limit to how much I can eat in one sitting now? This is the stuff nightmares are made out of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Also nothing wrong with exercising a lot as long as you're not injuring yourself. with exercising a lot you are injuring yourself and especially in this state it's not good for him, especially for his brain and mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Lol at 26 being old. That transition from invincibility to regular mortality. You know, there's actually a limit to how much I can eat in one sitting now? This is the stuff nightmares are made out of... I'm turning 40 this year and I can generally abuse my body like I did when I was 20. I do eat better, but I think that's simply a more developed palate. Also nothing wrong with exercising a lot as long as you're not injuring yourself. with exercising a lot you are injuring yourself and especially in this state it's not good for him, especially for his brain and mind Exercising a lot properly should cause no injury. Exercise releases plenty of happy chemicals in the brain, and the psychological benefits of exercise have been pretty extensively documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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