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wtf is going on ITT. this isn't a 'divisive release' most people straight up dug this one

 

as for the statement 'there is no reason to suggest an album of lo fi electronica should take eight years' let me just remind people once more where their place is as the listener. you're not above boc and you're not their manager. they can do whatever the fuck they like and they can release whatever the fuck they like. 'lo fi electronica' is such a misunderstanding and has been applied very flippantly and passively. how incredibly dismissive of you.

 

also, you shouldn't have to 'try' to like something so maybe that's the problem. it is what it is and you can like or dislike it but please learn to distinguish between 'I don't like this' and 'this is a bad release'

 

and yes, they would have the following they have if they released an album every two years. they'd probably have a bigger following. do you really think people only like boc because of the 'mystery'?

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I 100% agree BoC would have a very strong following if they released an album every 2 years

Look at Ae

They are alarmingly consistent with albums every 2-3 years and their fan base is immense

But more importantly if they put out an album some are less excited by, you don't feel too upset because you know you just have to wait two years (or less) and you will have something new

 

8 years and no reason to think there is an immediate follow up, if you feel underwhelmed it stings just a little bit more

 

Again, i actually like the album

But to say it wasn't devisive... Did you read the reactions on this forum when it came out?

even look at some in this thread

Fumi, lumpy, osc, etc

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wtf is going on ITT. this isn't a 'divisive release' most people straight up dug this oneas for the statement 'there is no reason to suggest an album of lo fi electronica should take eight years' let me just remind people once more where their place is as the listener. you're not above boc and you're not their manager. they can do whatever the fuck they like and they can release whatever the fuck they like. 'lo fi electronica' is such a misunderstanding and has been applied very flippantly and passively. how incredibly dismissive of you. also, you shouldn't have to 'try' to like something so maybe that's the problem. it is what it is and you can like or dislike it but please learn to distinguish between 'I don't like this' and 'this is a bad release'and yes, they would have the following they have if they released an album every two years. they'd probably have a bigger following. do you really think people only like boc because of the 'mystery'?

Now this is exactly the sort of ridiculous reply that makes me wonder just what sort of individuals post on here.

 

Of course I'm not their fucking manager and they can release whatever they like - thanks for stating that Captain Obvious.

 

How has the term lo-fi electronica been applied dismissively? Music has to be called something doesn't it? Stop putting words in my mouth and assuming I'm speaking for everyone on here. I'm not. A great many people adore them - including myself.

 

Go back and read my post - I've stated both there and elsewhere that I think they are incredibly talented people and maybe the finest artists to appear in almost twenty years. If that's not praise then I don't know what is.

 

Yes, it is what it is - another great acute observation by you.

 

My post focused on the marketing aspect and their cleverly marketed image - something that is a symptom of the current age.

 

There's no need to rush to their defence every time someone posts something that doesn't fIt with your views on them.

 

I sincerely doubt the band are somehow going to suffer just because you or I said something on an Internet forum.

 

It's truly sad that even now (almost a year since the release) I make a balanced opinionated post only to have some individual try to make it personal.

 

Maybe that's just the nature of Internet forums, I guess.

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it's not divisive because it's too cutting edge or too future. It's divisive because of the rabid cult like following and others who do not subscribe to that. I don't think it's a stretch to say that music like this isn't terribly unique these days and has been done better over the years, not just by BoC, but increasingly by other artists who take their influence and run with it in more interesting directions. TH felt like someone restating the obvious, that feel of fans finally catching up to their heroes and surpassing them.

 

BoC's gonna BoC, we get that, but it certainly doesn't hurt to point out that the throne can be taken from people. It does, in fact happen. Even when Scorsese decided to make other films in the vein of Goodfellas, he made sure to crank it up a few notches, not turn it down.

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Completely aside (mostly to disperse the negativity I once again seem to have generated), I'd recommend people who enjoyed the mellower moments on TH to check out Mark Isham's 'Film Music' release on Windham Hill.

 

Yes, I'm aware the Sandisons name checked him during the TH interviews but as a 45 year-old codger, I'm old enough to remember when these pieces first appeared in their respective films, especially 'Mrs Soffel' with the very lovely Diane Keaton starring along side a very young Mel Gibson

 

The album is a little difficult to find nowadays but not impossible.. There are three pieces - 'Mrs Soffel', 'The Life And Times Of Harvey Milk' and 'Never Cry Wolf'.

 

As to the mood, think of the synth sequences from the film 'Witness' by Maurice Jarre - also an extremely loved (and not forgotten) master of mood and evocation.

 

Regards

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Some really fallacious polarizing posts in this thread.

 

It's not my favorite record of theirs but it is one of my favorites of 2013.

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Decent enough album, but not overwhelming.

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struggle to listen from start to finish, but there are at least 8 or 9 great tracks on this,would have made 2 awesome ep,s! no denying i find some of the tracks a bit bland

Absolutely this. I always put it on after a few months break and think after a few tracks - 'Woah, this is excellent - why don't I listen to it more'. But by the time I'm about half way through my mind is just wandering.

 

If they lost some of the tracks towards the end and maybe tweaked the track order I think it'd considerably improve the album

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it's too long and drifty

 

but I like jacquard causeway still because that's excellent drum machine work

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struggle to listen from start to finish, but there are at least 8 or 9 great tracks on this,would have made 2 awesome ep,s! no denying i find some of the tracks a bit bland

Absolutely this. I always put it on after a few months break and think after a few tracks - 'Woah, this is excellent - why don't I listen to it more'.

This is how I am with BOC in general; I listen to them and think "This is nice, I should listen to BOC more often." And then a few months go by, and the cycle continues.

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To be fair all of their albums are long. Except if you count Twoism as an album which I don't.

 

So I'm the same as you guys but that's mostly because I listen to them more deliberately than casually. I don't put on one of their albums if I know I'm not going to finish it in one sitting.

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To be fair all of their albums are long. Except if you count Twoism as an album which I don't.

 

So I'm the same as you guys but that's mostly because I listen to them more deliberately than casually. I don't put on one of their albums if I know I'm not going to finish it in one sitting.

Me either. I like long albums and usually we sit down to them as we would a movie, with the intention of sitting through the whole album, thinking about it, etc.

 

I still really enjoy TH but there are a few standout tracks for me that I keep coming back to. I'm not surprised people are so polarized though.

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Some people complain, and I think I agree, that 8 years is a long time for just for a dozen tracks. From that perspective I am disappointed (but not with the music)

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I personally think it's a pretty good album. It's the first from them I've really enjoyed since Geogaddi, but then again, I've never been the biggest BOC fan. I listened to it a lot the first week, then only sporadically went back to it, mainly only to listen to Jacquard Causeway. Not a bad album at all.

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Hardly listened to it after the first week.

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pretty much every single new release is divisive at first here, the reaction to TH was pretty positive at the end of the day, so yeah.. I'm sticking by that. outside of watmm it was well received, so nuts to you fellas.

 

the only people left in the thread when I wrote that stuff were just people being sour and assuming others agreed, which is why I got annoyed in the first place.

 

I'm mad at people that are somehow mad at boc for not delivering what they perceive to be a satisfactory release. there is no basis for that level of entitlement. if you don't like something discuss it, but when you start to whinge about it not reaching your expectations perhaps some self analysis is in order to determine if your assumptions are rational. It's not a taste it's an attitude.

 

as for the praise being somehow too grand in your books...even if you're right about it, why does it bother you so much? so people like something a lot and want to show their appreciation for it...great! are they fucking a copy of the album inches from your head as you sleep at night? if so, I would absolutely get behind scolding the enjoyment of others with bubbling e-cynicism.

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I'm not mad at BoC. is your assumption rational?

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also, judging by the amount of copies of this that are being flipped on discogs, I'd actually say that quite a few people outside of watmm were also disappointed...but I will admit, that is a leap of logic.

 

not an wholly unjustified one, however...

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pretty much every single new release is divisive at first here, the reaction to TH was pretty positive at the end of the day, so yeah.. I'm sticking by that. outside of watmm it was well received, so nuts to you fellas.

 

the only people left in the thread when I wrote that stuff were just people being sour and assuming others agreed, which is why I got annoyed in the first place.

 

I'm mad at people that are somehow mad at boc for not delivering what they perceive to be a satisfactory release. there is no basis for that level of entitlement. if you don't like something discuss it, but when you start to whinge about it not reaching your expectations perhaps some self analysis is in order to determine if your assumptions are rational. It's not a taste it's an attitude.

 

as for the praise being somehow too grand in your books...even if you're right about it, why does it bother you so much? so people like something a lot and want to show their appreciation for it...great! are they fucking a copy of the album inches from your head as you sleep at night? if so, I would absolutely get behind scolding the enjoyment of others with bubbling e-cynicism.

 

Why are you mad about what I said? I'm not knocking those who love it.

 

Jeez, I wish you would actually read people's posts. The thrust of my recent posts have been about marketing in the internet age.

 

My opinion on TH is just some rambling from another non-entity on an internet forum. It's of no more worth than anyone else's.

 

Anyway, I'm done talking about this album now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where is the follow-up EP?

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Where is the follow-up EP?

 

 

a long, long, long way away.

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Where is the follow-up EP?

 

 

a long, long, long way away.

 

 

like never. they will be nursing their wounds forever. o cruel WATMM, how thy harsh words have cut at the tender flank of the BoC.

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Beautiful album of music. The sound quality of Tomorrow's Harvest is above anything they've done in the past, it sounds so good in my vehicle. Well executed concept. I never expected them to release anything so it was a welcome gift.

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It appears to be generally a negative reaction to this album which I personally find very surprising. I think TH is a fantastic album and probably my favourite of theirs. It's definitely their most consistent, I love the whole thing (even Jacquard's Causeway which took some time). The Berlin School influence is a key development for me and with the soundtrack emphasis to the fore it's a clear progression from their earlier works.

 

Sundown is still one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard.

 

Incidentally, the "8 years" thing isn't a factor for me as much to my embarrasment I only discovered BoC in 2008. So I only had the 5 years to wait :biggrin: .

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Can't believe it's been over a year already. Time passes ;_; I feel sad.

 

I enjoyed this a lot and still do and listen to several tracks quite often. It's a summer haze album for me though so I like listening to it now more than ever.

 

 

I think TH seems to have less of that "boc nostalgy sound" that I so much love, The ending of Transmisiones Ferox... that's the feels, I want to hear a full version of that soo badly.

 

Regarding the hype train: I enjoyed it, I have never been part of something like that ever before, it felt quite special.

 

Yeah the reason I didn't like it as much as some other releases is because the theme this time around wasn't the usual nostalgia hazy warm yet cold thing, but like nostalgia for old scifi movie scores and 70's thoughts and ideals etc, coldwar social collapse...

 

And I thought the same thing about the ending of Transmisiones Ferox, that's the kinda stuff I like most form them.

 

TCH is my favorite and I know that it's not their most liked but it had the most summer haze nostalgia and warmth to it (for me) and I liked that. Playing a ton whilst driving around here in the summer days...

But Over The Horizon Radar's my favorite piece from them ever. It does a lot for me in the short 1:09.

 

I'm just looking forward to whatever they grace me with next, whenever it'll be.

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only on watmm will you find people that absolutely hate boc albums whilst loving the shit out of boc.

 

it reminds me of a todd barry bit about a woman who once said 'I love coca cola but I hate Pepsi with a passion' which to todd meant that her mind was simultaneously telling her that she both loved and hated what was essentially the same thing

 

I garuntee more people will come to like this album over time, it rarely goes the other way with music that isn't mc hammer or whatever

 

and yeah not saying don't dislike this album or anything, do whatever. just be a bit more humble about shitting on things others love I guess.

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